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Title: Rebirth
Post by: Seth on September 04, 2008, 08:14:28 PM
testing clouds and stones...



(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3220/2829433894_cf36753d3e_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Rebirth
Post by: choronr on September 04, 2008, 08:27:35 PM
Clouds, terrain, atmo and surface work are superb; and, I like that Agave plant!
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Post by: Saurav on September 04, 2008, 10:57:42 PM
The surfaces and the stone work looks like a photo. Congrats, superb render.
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Post by: Hannes on September 05, 2008, 12:13:44 AM
Very realistic. Great image!
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Post by: old_blaggard on September 05, 2008, 02:52:40 AM
Very nice work with the stones.  The clouds don't look quite right - they're too sharp at the top.  The texturing around the stones is very interesting... in some ways, it seems to fit right in; in others, it doesn't quite fit.  Perhaps it's because I feel that the texture looks mossy and should therefore be growing on some of the stones.  I'm not really a fan of the plant: it looks out of place here and the model itself looks quite stiff.  I've seen other people use this plant in the past, and I've never really been a huge fan of it.

That said, I really like the image overall; I'm just giving you critiques to help you make it look even better :).
Title: Re: Rebirth
Post by: Seth on September 05, 2008, 03:35:43 AM
I totally agree with you o_b ! I really don't like the result of this render, mostly because of the plastic look of the plant ! Maybe i will post the original render without pw to show the textures and the clouds from stock render :)
Title: Re: Rebirth
Post by: inkydigit on September 05, 2008, 07:02:06 AM
very convincing stone work and water...agree about the aloe? plant...maybe another one would fit better...all in all though, I give this 9.5/10
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Post by: Mahnmut on September 05, 2008, 07:43:09 AM
First of all, this is great,
I wish I could do something even similar.
The ground is among the most photorealistic things I have seen in TG.
I like the clouds too, but they have a slightly painted look in my opinion. Maybe this is a case for Buzzzz´s photoshop-technique.
Last but not least this looks a lot like norway or iceland to me, so I would replace  the plant by a dwarf birch or one of those round stonelike pillowy wosnames.
To say it again, the ground is great!!
Best Regards,
Jan
Title: Re: Rebirth
Post by: Seth on September 05, 2008, 10:45:00 AM
i send the original without postwork...
damn, i look at it before writing this post... i really don't like it (except the fake stones)...   :-[
anyway... gonna work more on the next one...
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Post by: rcallicotte on September 05, 2008, 11:39:26 AM
I like everything except maybe the plant.  Nice clouds, great lighting, good textures, nice populations of stones.  Good work.
Title: Re: Rebirth
Post by: moodflow on September 05, 2008, 12:29:36 PM
I see some soft lighting in there.  Looks fantastic!
Title: Re: Rebirth
Post by: Oshyan on September 06, 2008, 01:15:06 AM
As others have said the texturing and lighting are very realistic and well done. The plant is only mediocre, but I understand the desire to add an element of focus. Maybe a cactus or something of higher quality? Hard to say. I do hope you continue with this scene though as it has a lot of potential.

- Oshyan
Title: Re: Rebirth
Post by: Seth on September 06, 2008, 03:11:32 AM
i worked on it with a cactus before the ugly plant ^^
maybe i'll render it again with some modification... but that's another 100 hours to wait ^^
and i'm rendering something else right now...
but you're right, this one has potential...
Title: Re: Rebirth
Post by: zhotfire on September 06, 2008, 05:24:04 AM
The stones look great, but I agree the ugly plant has to go...  :(  ;)
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Post by: MacGyver on September 06, 2008, 08:02:07 AM
100 hours? :o
I like the picture so far... stones are really extraordinary. I'm looking forward to see what plant you're going to use. How was working with the clouds seth? I heard that it is quite difficult to get them look realistic in TG2?! :-\
Title: Re: Rebirth
Post by: Seth on September 06, 2008, 08:57:25 AM
my computer is just an old machine so yeah 100 hours...
as for the clouds... well i am not the specialist in here but as far as i understand, i prefer using the perlin billow to have this bubbling look... i usually use big scale clouds with a smallest scale between 10 to 50 and a lead-in scale from 5000 to 25000...
i must admit i am usually lucky and i tweak a lot the parameters of the cloud layer...
i think the most important thing to achieve something close to reality in all aspect is the light and the atmo (one can't go without the other)... this one has haze 4 and bluesky 2, but i love to use 1 and 1...


ooookay here is the tgc of the fake stones... try to play with them before using them ;)
Title: Re: Rebirth
Post by: MacGyver on September 06, 2008, 10:57:00 AM
Thank you so much for your stones! :D
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Post by: Marcos Silveira on September 06, 2008, 01:13:58 PM
It's fucking amazing!!!!!! :o
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Post by: Mahnmut on September 06, 2008, 01:29:13 PM
Thank for the stones, I´m gonna learn a lot I think!
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Post by: inkydigit on September 06, 2008, 04:21:03 PM
merci BEAUCOUP!!!
Title: Re: Rebirth
Post by: Seth on September 06, 2008, 07:54:55 PM
my pleasure ^^
Title: Re: Rebirth
Post by: Seth on September 07, 2008, 01:38:05 PM
just for fun
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Post by: Oshyan on September 07, 2008, 09:42:19 PM
Seth, I think it's great just like that. No plant required!

- Oshyan
Title: Re: Rebirth
Post by: MacGyver on September 08, 2008, 08:29:30 AM
GREAT!  :D
Title: Re: Rebirth
Post by: mr-miley on September 08, 2008, 09:03:42 AM
seth93

Superb image, very realistic. I think I prefer the second one, with out the post work. The plant certainly seems to look better in that one, and the lighting is a wee bit more realistic, though I suppose it all depends on what look you were going for. Don't get me wrong, I think the 1st one you posted was superb, incredibly realistic, its just that hteres something about the lighting in the 2nd one....

Miles
Title: Re: Rebirth
Post by: rcallicotte on September 08, 2008, 09:21:24 AM
STONES?  STONES!?  You've got some real stones to give us stones like this for free!  They need to be in the Rock Library.   ;D

Thanks Seth.  I like the new trim job. 
Title: Re: Rebirth
Post by: Seth on September 08, 2008, 10:53:40 AM
thanks all ^^

@mr-miley : i truely understand your statement about light ! i am just looking for p-w techniques to try to improve my renders and sometimes ... well... sometimes it's better without it ;D
to be honest, i loved the light i did for my previous render (here (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Eau-01xL4yI/SLhtq-XINSI/AAAAAAAAAQ8/mrLoRXcZ_KQ/s1600-h/au+bord+de+l+eau.bmp)) but i didn't manage to do something as good in this one... i was lazy...
Title: Re: Rebirth
Post by: Xpleet on September 08, 2008, 12:14:11 PM
I like the original one more. Nice stones.

Have fun, the renderosity people will kill you with comments.

The shape of those clouds look like vueclouds so much :)

But these have too much detail in areas where they are not highlighted, making it looking weird a little.
Title: Re: Rebirth
Post by: Seth on September 08, 2008, 12:28:57 PM
hehe ^^
Title: Re: Rebirth
Post by: dandelO on September 08, 2008, 06:01:56 PM
I love this version now, the plastic looking plant took away the appeal of the rest of the image for me before. Now though, it looks great, top job again, man! :)

QuoteHave fun, the renderosity people will kill you with comments.

Lol, not half! I rarely see any constructively critical/helpful comments on my images at Renderosity, except for Joel(yes, you, Phyllo ;)) it's the last place I upload to, and usually only as an afterthought, if there's nothing else left to click on my screen.