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Title: Tropical Island - Finished
Post by: RogueNZ on November 20, 2008, 07:29:37 PM
I remember an amazing image from back in the day of an island that was tropical looking, yet had snow on the top (if i can remember rightly), but i cant remember who made it and i'd really like to see it again. Anyone know the one I'm talking about?

Anyway, Ive been working on this for a few days and its coming along alright. It reminds me a bit of Lord of the Flies. I'm going for a photorealism, but I'm stuck and really don't know where to go from here. I haven't done anything with the atmosphere yet, as i originally intended to be looking down from the top. What do you think of the scale of the trees and grass? Theres something not quite right to me. I can never seem to get the photo realistic feel that some of you get.

I think this setup might look better if the island was larger/flatter? Its a DEM of Mt Hood by the way.

Thanks for looking, and comments and critique needed!

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y274/gullymuster/island.jpg)
Title: Re: Tropical Island - WIP
Post by: RogueNZ on November 21, 2008, 12:28:03 AM
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y274/gullymuster/newisland-1.jpg)

Decided to ditch Mt Hood and go with something i could make beaches with
Title: Re: Tropical Island - WIP
Post by: old_blaggard on November 21, 2008, 01:08:27 AM
I would really scale down the trees. Additionally, you should try getting more color variation both in the textures and in the water.
Title: Re: Tropical Island - WIP
Post by: sjefen on November 21, 2008, 08:44:02 AM
Why did you drop Mt Hood? I think it looked wonderful as an island, but you should scale down those trees as old_blaggard said.
In you'r new picture it's really hard to see cause of the clouds.

Any chance you could share the DEM's of Mt Hood?

Quote from: RogueNZ on November 20, 2008, 07:29:37 PM
I remember an amazing image from back in the day of an island that was tropical looking, yet had snow on the top (if i can remember rightly), but i cant remember who made it and i'd really like to see it again. Anyone know the one I'm talking about?

It sounds like one of mine. It's not exactly amazing, but it's a little tropical looking and has snow at the top :)
I never did finish it, but here (http://forums.planetside.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4435.0;attach=11804;image) it is.

- Terje
Title: Re: Tropical Island - WIP
Post by: rcallicotte on November 21, 2008, 09:40:16 AM
I agree with everything said here.  This reminds me of a level in BF2, but only a small piece of it.  Got any natives running around on that thing?   :o
Title: Re: Tropical Island - WIP
Post by: RogueNZ on November 21, 2008, 08:42:37 PM
Thanks for the replies. Sorry Sjefen, thats not the image i was thinking of ;) but it still looks great Ive never seen it before. The one im thinking of is pre TG2 and had no clouds in the sky. Oh and my new image is just a rough draft, far from completion.

I uploaded the DEM i have here: http://aa.1asphost.com/gullymuster/mounthood.ter
It is quite low resolution though and doesn't include much of the surrounding landscape. Its been sitting on my hard drive for yonks
Title: Re: Tropical Island - WIP
Post by: RogueNZ on November 23, 2008, 02:53:07 PM
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y274/gullymuster/new2.jpg)

Updated, thoughts?
Title: Re: Tropical Island - WIP
Post by: darthvader on November 23, 2008, 05:46:48 PM
I really like the clouds, the beach, and the water...but the vibrant green color of the ground causes the trees to fail to stand out as much which gives the island a flat look
Title: Re: Tropical Island - WIP
Post by: RogueNZ on November 23, 2008, 06:04:54 PM
The bright green is actually trees! But i definately agree they do need work
Title: Re: Tropical Island - WIP
Post by: PG on November 23, 2008, 07:12:45 PM
Yeah perhaps if they were a little more sparse. :)
Title: Re: Tropical Island - WIP
Post by: RogueNZ on November 25, 2008, 05:51:49 PM
Updated, only postwork was sharpening.

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y274/gullymuster/great2.jpg)

I think this one looks a little more natural. I think the trees are sorted, so next ill work on the reef and clouds :D
Title: Re: Tropical Island - WIP
Post by: freelancah on November 26, 2008, 11:28:52 AM
Looking a lot better now. Perhaps try adding some non tree areas with bare rock visible to make it have more variance. BTW what trees are those?
Title: Re: Tropical Island - WIP
Post by: cyphyr on November 26, 2008, 11:44:16 AM
Looking really nice, try adding some palms along the beach, I think they would show up nicely at this altitude.
keep going
richard
Title: Re: Tropical Island - WIP
Post by: old_blaggard on November 26, 2008, 04:02:18 PM
Yeah, much better. I would also prefer it with a bit less of a blue tint. Perhaps you can also play with adding some foam here or there on distant waves.
Title: Re: Tropical Island - WIP
Post by: Marcos Silveira on November 28, 2008, 05:27:45 AM
The last one is just amazing...
Title: Re: Tropical Island - WIP
Post by: RogueNZ on December 01, 2008, 10:28:44 PM
I now consider this finished, unless someone gives me a good reason to change something. I sorta wanna get outside and enjoy the sunshine now :D (jokes).

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y274/gullymuster/tropicalisland2.jpg)

The trees are Horsechestnut and the new ones on the shore are palm trees, both of which I believe were kindly made available by mr-miley  :) Thanks very much.

Thanks for your views and comments  ;D
Title: Re: Tropical Island - Finished
Post by: darthvader on December 02, 2008, 01:56:55 AM
very well done ;D
Title: Re: Tropical Island - Finished
Post by: inkydigit on December 02, 2008, 07:39:29 AM
I like this alot...especially the reef...not sure about the clouds...seem to dense/sharp...still well done!
Title: Re: Tropical Island - Finished
Post by: rcallicotte on December 02, 2008, 07:43:24 AM
Very nice.  Let's go swimming!

I agree with inky about the clouds, but these things can be so subjective.
Title: Re: Tropical Island - Finished
Post by: old_blaggard on December 02, 2008, 12:47:21 PM
I really like this image. I feel like the clouds work well, and the detail and realism of the island is great. It's been nice watching this image grow from something that was merely OK to something that is really quite striking.
Title: Re: Tropical Island - Finished
Post by: RogueNZ on December 02, 2008, 05:07:47 PM
Thanks for your comments. I can see what you mean about the clouds. I did want something softer, but i also wanter them to have nice contrasting shadows, and whenever i tried i could never get both at the same time (not that the shadows are particularly good anyway). I did so many test renders but i still couldn't get them just right, but these were good enough i feel  :)
Title: Re: Tropical Island - Finished
Post by: Blonderator on December 02, 2008, 10:04:00 PM
Beautiful island :)

You need to lower the exposure on the render camera though. All your images are washed out. They're way too bright.
Title: Re: Tropical Island - Finished
Post by: Oshyan on December 14, 2008, 11:06:21 PM
Lovely image. I like how you've incorporated the off-shore reef very well. My only criticism would be it's too sharp. You could probably use a better antialiasing filter to fix this easily. Slightly less exposure might give more detail in the clouds too, but it is also nice as it is, with the brightness adding to the sunny, tropical look.

- Oshyan
Title: Re: Tropical Island - Finished
Post by: RogueNZ on December 15, 2008, 04:22:33 AM
Thanks for all your comments, I may revisit this in the future but for now i'm content  ;D