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Title: 7 AM - now the final
Post by: FrankB on December 04, 2008, 02:52:44 PM
next one.

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Title: Re: 7 AM
Post by: Mohawk20 on December 04, 2008, 02:57:30 PM
That lighting is great... love the clouds. Very realistic!
Title: Re: 7 AM
Post by: FrankB on December 04, 2008, 03:12:15 PM
@Mohawk

interesting... I'm now writing from my notebook. On this display, the image is too dark. There have been many more details visible on the other screen. I shall adjust the image a little further later.

Title: Re: 7 AM
Post by: MacGyver on December 04, 2008, 04:23:46 PM
Great, I especially like the trees in the foreground, very realistic! :D
Title: Re: 7 AM
Post by: Mohawk20 on December 04, 2008, 04:35:01 PM
Quote from: FrankB on December 04, 2008, 03:12:15 PM
@Mohawk

interesting... I'm now writing from my notebook. On this display, the image is too dark. There have been many more details visible on the other screen. I shall adjust the image a little further later.



Yeah, I had to reduce the Gamma of my monitors from standard to -50 (it's only -50, 0 or 50) to get the right lightness for image creation. Had to find that out the hard way, since a postersize printout came from the store way to dark...
Title: Re: 7 AM
Post by: FrankB on December 05, 2008, 04:04:51 AM
another version of the same, slightly smaller this time... couldn't resist trying fog/clouds above the river. They didn't come out the way I liked them to be, so I must go back and improve that.


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Title: Re: 7 AM
Post by: Mohawk20 on December 05, 2008, 05:27:32 AM
The lightness of the highlights is good, but the shadows could be darker. That's what helped the realism in the previous image...
Title: Re: 7 AM
Post by: FrankB on December 05, 2008, 05:45:33 AM
Quote from: Mohawk20 on December 05, 2008, 05:27:32 AM
The lightness of the highlights is good, but the shadows could be darker. That's what helped the realism in the previous image...

I see, thanks for pointing that out.

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: 7 AM
Post by: MacGyver on December 05, 2008, 10:26:35 AM
Quote from: Mohawk20 on December 05, 2008, 05:27:32 AM
The lightness of the highlights is good, but the shadows could be darker. That's what helped the realism in the previous image...

Absolutely, just thought the same! :)
Title: Re: 7 AM
Post by: FrankB on December 05, 2008, 10:56:40 AM
I am still trying to improve the lighting setup even further, so bear with me.

Frank
Title: Re: 7 AM
Post by: moodflow on December 05, 2008, 01:13:31 PM
Looks fantastic Frank! Can't wait to see more.   8)
Title: Re: 7 AM
Post by: rcallicotte on December 05, 2008, 01:54:25 PM
Looking good.  I'm late on comments, but everyone is spot on.
Title: Re: 7 AM
Post by: Mohawk20 on December 05, 2008, 02:30:07 PM
It's great to be able to help each other like this. I've been trying to get that realistic lighting fir ever, and just don't get it perfect. You had it, so that helped me as well...
Title: Re: 7 AM
Post by: FrankB on December 05, 2008, 04:02:01 PM
Here's another version, but I hate the result. I totally messed up the terrain on the right, and the clouds suck. Have to get back to the original version and try not to break the strong points of the image. Do you have that from time to time as well? That an image gets worse the more you try to improve it? I certainly do!

Cheers,
Frank

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Title: Re: 7 AM
Post by: zhotfire on December 05, 2008, 06:35:31 PM
I agree with Mohawk on the lighting... in the second image the light seems to bounce around and penetrate the trees much more than it should. Maybe strike a balance between the first and second? I like the dramatic clouds near the sun in the third, but you're right about the rest of it.  ;)
Title: Re: 7 AM
Post by: FrankB on December 05, 2008, 07:34:39 PM
OK, here comes the final. I am very satisfied with it now, to be honest. I've kept the original sky, but pulled the trees nearer to the river and added a little bit of fog on the water.
Thanks for helping with your recommendations. I will move on to the next project.

Frank

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Title: Re: 7 AM - now the final
Post by: Mohawk20 on December 06, 2008, 03:19:37 AM
Yes, it's only a little bit brighter, so it retains the shadows, and the fog adds just that little bit extra, as do the extra trees near the water. Not having the tree up close might be an improvement as well...

All in all a VERY nice end result!
Title: Re: 7 AM - now the final
Post by: Tangled-Universe on December 06, 2008, 03:33:10 AM
Good work Frank!
I think you've made the best possible for this scene. Can't think of any further improvements so far besides some touchups for the terrain maybe. Think you can do better :)
I don't agree with Mohawk about the trees up close. It adds depth to the image and also functions as a kind of "introduction" which draws the viewer to its main focus, 7 AM.
How did you influence the strength of the shadows on the trees? I presume you used the Enviro Light settings to increase GI strength for this, but maybe something else?

Martin
Title: Re: 7 AM - now the final
Post by: FrankB on December 06, 2008, 05:14:31 AM
thanks!

Now, the fact that the trees in the foreground are gone have happened (I think) because I have accidentally moved the population slightly. But then in the end, I am ok with that, because I still believe that none of the models I've seen so far are good for close-ups - they all look quite CG (at least for normal people, non Terrgeneers, if you will).
Yeah, the rock still isn't spectacular, but then, I'm also not very good at these things.

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: 7 AM - now the final
Post by: inkydigit on December 07, 2008, 10:49:43 AM
looks perfect!
Title: Re: 7 AM - now the final
Post by: RogueNZ on December 07, 2008, 05:50:07 PM
Stunning!