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Title: Dark clouds
Post by: Kranky on February 01, 2009, 04:41:32 PM
Hello,

I've finished my new project. At first, I created the sky and then, I put the landscape under the sky ;)
Rendered in 1920x1200, detail 0.9, AA 6 in about 2 hours.

(http://wwwold.jens-bringewatt.de/tg2/2_gal/2_6t.jpg) (http://wwwold.jens-bringewatt.de/tg2/2_gal/2_6.jpg)
Title: Re: Dark clouds
Post by: FrankB on February 01, 2009, 04:49:56 PM
Very good, congratulations. a real beauty!
Title: Re: Dark clouds
Post by: Seth on February 01, 2009, 04:57:51 PM
great atmo and light !
good render ^^
Title: Re: Dark clouds
Post by: domdib on February 01, 2009, 05:23:48 PM
The priority you gave to the sky really shows - excellent sky that would probably enhance a number of different landscapes.
Title: Re: Dark clouds
Post by: Tangled-Universe on February 01, 2009, 05:29:17 PM
Beautiful work! Looks very natural!
I think everything is just fine, lighting, atmo + clouds, grasses etc. The trees might do with a little bit more translucency or lighter colors.

Martin
Title: Re: Dark clouds
Post by: Hannes on February 02, 2009, 12:34:22 AM
I love especially the clouds and the background.
Title: Re: Dark clouds
Post by: old_blaggard on February 02, 2009, 12:36:56 AM
Very realistic and very beautiful! Great work!
Title: Re: Dark clouds
Post by: rcallicotte on February 02, 2009, 08:42:38 AM
Lovely setup.  I agree about the translucency in the leaves.
Title: Re: Dark clouds
Post by: Cyber-Angel on February 02, 2009, 05:30:13 PM
I would have to say that I am not sure about what has been said about the translucency of the leaves (RE: Needles) since we're dealing with conifer like trees, given the sun angle, the Point of view, the angle of the camera relative to the sun and the amount and position of the clouds I'd say the lighting of the trees given these factors seams correct. If is important to note that Conifer Forests have an Albedo level between 0.09 to 0.15 whereas deciduous trees (Broad Leaf Types) have an Albedo value of about 0.15 to 0.18 meaning that Conifer Forests will always look darker.

From a compositional standpoint the darkness of the trees gives weight to the sides of the image forcing the viewers eye into the image, it also sets the desired emotional resonance when viewing the image, which IMHO is the point, all that aside "Each to their own" as they say.  ;D

Regards to you.

Cyber-Angel                   
Title: Re: Dark clouds
Post by: darthvader on February 02, 2009, 06:00:29 PM
Lovely image! my only critique is the small amount of graniness in the clouds
Title: Re: Dark clouds
Post by: Tangled-Universe on February 02, 2009, 06:13:11 PM
Quote from: Cyber-Angel on February 02, 2009, 05:30:13 PM
I would have to say that I am not sure about what has been said about the translucency of the leaves (RE: Needles) since we're dealing with conifer like trees, given the sun angle, the Point of view, the angle of the camera relative to the sun and the amount and position of the clouds I'd say the lighting of the trees given these factors seams correct. If is important to note that Conifer Forests have an Albedo level between 0.09 to 0.15 whereas deciduous trees (Broad Leaf Types) have an Albedo value of about 0.15 to 0.18 meaning that Conifer Forests will always look darker.

From a compositional standpoint the darkness of the trees gives weight to the sides of the image forcing the viewers eye into the image, it also sets the desired emotional resonance when viewing the image, which IMHO is the point, all that aside "Each to their own" as they say.  ;D

Regards to you.

Cyber-Angel                   

Could all well be and true. What counts in the end is how it looks, correct albedo levels or incorrect albedo levels. With increasing the translucency I mean it should make the needles a bit brighter and slightly more shiny. If you compare contrasts and lighting of the surrounding areas you'll see that they don't match.
It's as simple as that and not that complicated.
I think your compositional explanation is more feasible :)
Title: Re: Dark clouds
Post by: rcallicotte on February 02, 2009, 06:52:21 PM
Perhaps the fact that the contrast in the image is so strong that the conifers look black.  That is unnatural and maybe this is what was wanted.  Don't know.
Title: Re: Dark clouds
Post by: buzzzzz1 on February 03, 2009, 12:22:16 AM
Everything looks ok to me. Just up the atmo quality if you render it again because I think it's a keeper.
Title: Re: Dark clouds
Post by: Kranky on February 03, 2009, 03:17:01 AM
I set transluency on all plants (trees, bushes, grass) to about 0.4 to 0.5. But most of the trees look so dark because of the shadows of the clouds.
Title: Re: Dark clouds
Post by: Tangled-Universe on February 03, 2009, 03:21:33 AM
Quote from: Kranky on February 03, 2009, 03:17:01 AM
I set transluency on all plants (trees, bushes, grass) to about 0.4 to 0.5. But most of the trees look so dark because of the shadows of the clouds.

I can tell you when I load a couple of different models and place them next to each other and giving them all the same translucent settings for the leaves etc. They will all end up looking different.
All these settings are very arbitrary and should be revised in every new scene.
These settings don't apply for every model as well as not for every scene.
Maybe that's something everybody should keep in mind.
Don't want to sound like a tutor, just thinking along :)
Title: Re: Dark clouds
Post by: schmeerlap on February 03, 2009, 05:58:13 AM
A beautifully composed scene with great sky. Only 2 hours for this size (big) render. You certainly can afford to up the sample count in atmosphere and clouds to irradicate that bit of noise.

John
Title: Re: Dark clouds
Post by: Saurav on February 03, 2009, 06:00:39 AM
Gorgeous scene. Great lighting and clouds, I think you should render this one again with more samples to remove the noise.
Title: Re: Dark clouds
Post by: ra on February 04, 2009, 01:39:26 PM
As I already mentioned at another location - this definitely rocks  :D
The background is one of the most realistic things I have ever seen in TG2. The clouds should need a few more samples though.
Great job!
Title: Re: Dark clouds
Post by: Kranky on February 05, 2009, 02:47:24 AM
Ok, I'll try to render it with more samples tomorrow. :)
Title: Re: Dark clouds
Post by: efflux on February 08, 2009, 10:08:06 PM
Cool work. Parts of this are very photographic looking especially the details in the distance. The trees are effective. One thing I'm not so keen on is the blue sky. It's too strong in my opinion.
Title: Re: Dark clouds
Post by: Oshyan on February 12, 2009, 11:39:35 PM
I love the clear sense of epic scale in this. The groundcover is also very nice and colorful without being dominating. Great work. Agree though that a re-render with higher samples wouldn't go astray. ;)

- Oshyan