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Title: World Rally - Scotland v.2.0
Post by: dandelO on February 10, 2009, 01:58:24 PM
Actually, it's a DEM of Antelope Point, Arizona. It's Scotland now! :D ;)
All TG, except the models, of course.

Car model found here... http://dmi.chez-alice.fr/models1.html
Helicopter from Turbosquid... http://www.turbosquid.com/3d
Trees are free Xfrog Grand firs.
Bushes supplied by Lightning.
Grass is an anonymous model picked up somewhere, don't know where, ages ago.

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Thanks for looking! :)
Title: Re: World Rally - Scotland
Post by: moodflow on February 10, 2009, 02:02:37 PM
Nice overall scene.  I especially like the foreground gravel and rocks on the dirt road - looks pretty realistic!
Title: Re: World Rally - Scotland
Post by: Tangled-Universe on February 10, 2009, 02:09:51 PM
Cool work Martin! Awesome, really like it! Pretty realistic too :)
Only thing I'd suggest is to replace the bright bushes by some better ones and maybe to add some (extra) reflectivity to the car. The rest is just fine with me.

Martin
Title: Re: World Rally - Scotland
Post by: leafspring on February 10, 2009, 02:31:35 PM
Very nice scene indeed.
But I have to agree with tangled-universe about the bushes. They do look a little incongruous. (And I have currently the same problem with my XFrog trees^^)
Rest of the scene is flawless.  :)
Title: Re: World Rally - Scotland
Post by: rcallicotte on February 10, 2009, 03:00:44 PM
Pretty dandy, DandelO!   :P

Now, the animation sequence...
Title: Re: World Rally - Scotland
Post by: Seth on February 10, 2009, 04:48:07 PM
very good job, and i second T-U about the bushes ^^
Title: Re: World Rally - Scotland
Post by: schmeerlap on February 10, 2009, 06:22:19 PM
Excellent render; especially the texture on the dirt road. Decreasing the Diffuse Colour on the bushes should darken and desaturate them, and a redeployment of grass turfs to break up the appearance of mini rows that jars. But great overall composition.

John
Title: Re: World Rally - Scotland
Post by: dandelO on February 10, 2009, 07:34:22 PM
Cheers.

The thing with the bushes is, they're meant to be yellow. There's a very common plant that grows in woodland/rocky areas, I don't know what it's called but it's the yellow things visible in this photo taken in my home town... http://www.fotothing.com/photos/4ef/4ef49262b92947e7b51294e3030646fd_c9f.jpg
You'll see in the fullsize photo that it really covers everything, the rock faces and grass, even on the vertical cliffs, it seems to grow anywhere.

That colour is a hard one to achieve. It gave me a real headache and I knew it would be the main picking point on this image. When I leaned towards the reddish-yellow it didn't work, even worse than this greenish-yellow I ended up with.

I might do something with it, cheers, guys! :)
Title: Re: World Rally - Scotland
Post by: old_blaggard on February 10, 2009, 07:54:09 PM
Nice scene :). I agree with most of what's been said above.
Title: Re: World Rally - Scotland
Post by: jo on February 10, 2009, 08:57:52 PM
Hi dandelO,

Quote from: dandelO on February 10, 2009, 07:34:22 PM
The thing with the bushes is, they're meant to be yellow. There's a very common plant that grows in woodland/rocky areas, I don't know what it's called but it's the yellow things visible in this photo taken in my home town... http://www.fotothing.com/photos/4ef/4ef49262b92947e7b51294e3030646fd_c9f.jpg
You'll see in the fullsize photo that it really covers everything, the rock faces and grass, even on the vertical cliffs, it seems to grow anywhere.

That's gorse, or furze as I think it's often called in the UK:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorse

It's a very spiky, thorny shrub which is a major pest here in NZ. It was introduced from the UK way back in the day to be used for hedges around fields, but NZ has ideal growing conditions for it and it took off and is everywhere. I was on a tourist train last summer and overseas visitors were commenting on how pretty the "yellow flowers" were, not realising it's such an invasive pest :-).

Regards,

Jo
Title: Re: World Rally - Scotland
Post by: jo on February 10, 2009, 09:01:07 PM
Hi again,

I should also say that it is a nice scene. If this was in NZ ( and it almost could be WRC in NZ too ) the gorse would be maybe twice as tall and probably completely cover the areas you have as grass etc. :-).

Regards,

Jo
Title: Re: World Rally - Scotland
Post by: Seth on February 10, 2009, 09:07:10 PM
Jo is a big fan of gorse ! ^^
we should all render gorse so he would come to visit us more often  ;D
Title: Re: World Rally - Scotland
Post by: MacGyver on February 11, 2009, 05:40:21 AM
Quote from: Seth on February 10, 2009, 09:07:10 PM
Jo is a big fan of gorse ! ^^
we should all render gorse so he would come to visit us more often  ;D
LMAO ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: World Rally - Scotland
Post by: Mohawk20 on February 11, 2009, 02:23:43 PM
Quote from: MacGyver on February 11, 2009, 05:40:21 AM
*** ;D ;D ;D
Hmmm, when the page loads I can clearly see the letters L M A O before the smileys, but when load is complete, only *** remains... Why is that?
Title: Re: World Rally - Scotland
Post by: rcallicotte on February 11, 2009, 04:15:10 PM
Let me try it.


Quote from: MacGyver on February 11, 2009, 05:40:21 AM
LMAO ;D ;D ;D


Nope.   Works fine. 
Title: Re: World Rally - Scotland
Post by: dandelO on February 11, 2009, 04:16:08 PM
Jo, thankyou for the info. :)

QuoteJo is a big fan of gorse ! ^^
we should all render gorse so he would come to visit us more often

Ha! Nice one. Try and get that yellow to look better than I did, though. ;)

QuoteHmmm, when the page loads I can clearly see the letters L M A O before the smileys, but when load is complete, only *** remains... Why is that?

The letters have been furzaken?  :D :D :D

Cheers for the input, folks! Re rendering the car portion now, you're right, TU, the reflection on the car as it is is just default specularity, going for a reflective shader now and some headlights as suggested by someone elswhere. I'll just crop it in afterwards...
Title: Re: World Rally - Scotland
Post by: dandelO on February 11, 2009, 04:18:00 PM
Hey, Mohawk!

*** *** ******** ** ***** ** ****!
** **** * **** ****** **? :D :D :D
Title: Re: World Rally - Scotland v.2.0
Post by: dandelO on February 11, 2009, 06:07:54 PM
Small update. Just a crop of the centre portion worked into the original image.
Fixed the car reflectivity and added some lights for the headlamp shine.

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Cheers! :)
Title: Re: World Rally - Scotland
Post by: Tangled-Universe on February 11, 2009, 06:13:41 PM
Yeah, good! Really like this update. Reflectivity of the car worked out pretty nice :)

Sorry about the bushes by the way. It is good to go after accuracy of a scene and those bushes probably grow there in the real world and indeed are yellow, but I just meant I thought they didn't really fit in the image. Or maybe they should be a bit smoother.

Martin
Title: Re: World Rally - Scotland
Post by: dandelO on February 11, 2009, 06:21:56 PM
No don't apologize, you're right, Martin, they do look sh*te! :D
I might try and fix this at some point, not today, though.
Cheers!
Title: Re: World Rally - Scotland
Post by: Seth on February 11, 2009, 06:38:07 PM
damn good render !
i love the car ^^
Title: Re: World Rally - Scotland
Post by: Mohawk20 on February 12, 2009, 05:26:35 AM
Hmmmm, more ***'s  ???
Since when does the forum have a filter for words that aren't really offensive?

Anyways, I really like the improvements, just adds that little bit of realism. You got the reflectiveness just right, and the headlights aren't that bright, but you can really see the difference with the last version.
Title: Re: World Rally - Scotland
Post by: dandelO on February 12, 2009, 06:30:57 AM
QuoteHmmmm, more ***'s  Huh
Since when does the forum have a filter for words that aren't really offensive?

Ha, you don't know what I said, though, it could have been really ******* offensive! ;) Joke, man!

Cheers, guys! On to the next one now, once I find my muse again...
Title: Re: World Rally - Scotland v.2.0
Post by: dandelO on February 12, 2009, 07:49:20 AM
OK, this scene isn't going to beat me.
Scratch my last comment about 'on to the next one etc,' I'm redoing the bushes now, I have made the leaves of the bush more yellow and overlayed it with a dark green power fractal, this looks more convincing than completely yellow leaves... See you later today, hopefully...
Title: Re: World Rally - Scotland v.2.0
Post by: FrankB on February 12, 2009, 10:07:04 AM
very nice stuff, I like where this is going!
Title: Re: World Rally - Scotland v.2.0
Post by: dandelO on February 12, 2009, 10:11:39 AM
Cheers, Frank. I'm on the last render take just now. The bushes look far better, not perfect but better. ;)
Then I'm done with it, for sure! (until someone points out more flaws, that is! :D)
Title: Re: World Rally - Scotland v.2.0
Post by: Tangled-Universe on February 12, 2009, 10:13:49 AM
Quote from: dandelO on February 12, 2009, 10:11:39 AM
Cheers, Frank. I'm on the last render take just now. The bushes look far better, not perfect but better. ;)
Then I'm done with it, for sure! (until someone points out more flaws, that is! :D)

Oh yeah the fake stones could use some micro-detail, so then you should render it at a quality of ~1 ;) lol ;D
Title: Re: World Rally - Scotland v.2.0
Post by: dandelO on February 12, 2009, 11:32:39 AM
OK. Last one for now. Changes are as written in the above posts.

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Thanks for looking, again! :)

Title: Re: World Rally - Scotland v.2.0
Post by: Mohawk20 on February 12, 2009, 11:34:47 AM
Yes! Bushes are more realistic like this!
Title: Re: World Rally - Scotland v.2.0
Post by: rcallicotte on February 12, 2009, 01:22:11 PM
This reminds me of a level I saw John Carmack try on his latest game engine shown last year. 

Good work, Seth.
Title: Re: World Rally - Scotland v.2.0
Post by: inkydigit on February 12, 2009, 03:49:43 PM
Quote from: dandelO on February 12, 2009, 11:32:39 AM
OK. Last one for now. Changes are as written in the above posts.

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Thanks for looking, again! :)


excellent progression...well done!
Title: Re: World Rally - Scotland v.2.0
Post by: dandelO on February 12, 2009, 08:12:58 PM
QuoteThis reminds me of a level I saw John Carmack try on his latest game engine shown last year.

Good work, Seth.

That's SethO, to you, my friend! And I'll thank you very much!  ::)

Cheers folks! :D
Title: Re: World Rally - Scotland v.2.0
Post by: efflux on February 21, 2009, 10:25:29 AM
Nice foreground.
Title: Re: World Rally - Scotland v.2.0
Post by: MacGyver on February 21, 2009, 04:02:26 PM
Quote from: dandelO on February 12, 2009, 08:12:58 PM
That's SethO, to you, my friend! And I'll thank you very much!  ::)

I'm confused! ;D
Reminds me of the old days when I used to play Colin McRae Rally, aaaaaah... :)
Title: Re: World Rally - Scotland v.2.0
Post by: dandelO on February 21, 2009, 09:35:58 PM
No jokes about Colin McRae being in the helicopter instead of the car I'm glad. ;D

Macguyver: I was confused, aswell, as was Calico I think. :D
Title: Re: World Rally - Scotland v.2.0
Post by: choronr on March 03, 2009, 11:18:11 PM
Love this image; and, where did you get the helicopter model?