for the past year i have been fighting a losing battle with the cyber pirates to get Terragen 2 of websites such as rapidshare mediafire megaupload letbit etc,
today i took down 5 links to Terragen 2 deep edition and It will only be a couple of weeks before more fresh links pop back up on the warez sites, so I need a loyal group of guys (loyal to planetside) to help me keep Terragen of the warez sites, (at the moment terragen is not located on any torrent sites just warez sites (for now ::) :-[)
here is what im talking about
http://vipwarez.net/main/soft/3846-terragen-2-technology-preview-5-deep.html (http://vipwarez.net/main/soft/3846-terragen-2-technology-preview-5-deep.html)
don't try and download this as the link does not work anymore
currently im only working on getting the terragen 2 deep edition links of the net
if someone could do the terragen .9.43 links that would be really handy
if you are interested give me an email @
dublin303@gmail.com
or pm me
and i will give you the details on how you can get these links down.
p.s
do not post live links in this thread to terragen 2 deep
Hmmm...I see they use one of my works as a kind of show-off.
Usually I wouldn't mind of course, but in this context? No.
Don't get me wrong, I think you're being very altruistic and sincere about this, but what's your interest in this if I may ask?
Of course, this is piracy and it is a bad thing, but it would never come into my mind to take actions by my own, honestly.
However, I'd find it interesting to know how you can get links down. My e-mail is in my profile.
Martin
huh... i thought it cant be pirated? cos planetside gives the serial through email right?
Err, umm I dont really believe this.
Its not possible to take down a link you dont have admin rights over, simply cant be done.
With just one post and no history I think "dublin" would like us to provide him with a working link to a download of Terragen. Of course just so he could remove it ... (bacon's gona get pricey though ! ;D)
Silly game :( :-[ >:(
richard
Oh and Lock this please
Quote from: cyphyr on February 18, 2009, 07:13:39 AM
Err, umm I dont really believe this.
Its not possible to take down a link you dont have admin rights over, simply cant be done.
With just one post and no history I think "dublin" would like us to provide him with a working link to a download of Terragen. Of course just so he could remove it ... (bacon's gona get pricey though ! ;D)
Silly game :( :-[ >:(
richard
Oh and Lock this please
Yeah perhaps, though I would obviously not provide him with any kind of that information.
We'll see if he responds, or not :)
does sound fishy, as even if you asked most warez or torrent sites to take down a torrent, do you really think the admins will so "oh wow, i didnt realize that warez was illegal!?! itll come down immediately, even though you are contacting me about something that isn't yours and have no legal rights or powers"
mhmmm... I took a quick browsing just outa curiosity just now and only things I've seen are origional .9 cracks, not any tg2. most the tg2 are just the normal one (and the old old tech preview version, not beta), and people going "were's the registration?"
which makes me happy :P
And even if tg2 ends up on the net, if we simply report it to planetside (not to this guy), and perhaps even download it and send its registration file to planetside, that should be more then enough for them to sort it out and deal with whoever was leaking it to the net.
The glory of how their registration works ;) the whole, its got your name right on it. And as far as I know tg2 will fly low enough on the radar where other work arounds and cracks wont be as popular for it as it isnt something like 3dsmax.
Its also helped by the fact most people probably just use the free version and are happy with it, as its a very nice thing.
rapidshare and megaupload allow you to report a link as warez/illegal and they will nullify the link. so although the webmaster of a warez site wont take the link down, by reporting it direct to rapidshare they kill the link and the warez site is left with a link to nothing - frustrating for them! so i dont see how the OP could be fishing for warez versions of TG when he's just asking everyone to keep an eye out for (and report) illegal links as it seems members above were suggesting (im looking at you cyphyr).
If anything Id say he spent a whole lotta dough on his own liscense and doesnt like the idea of pirates using it for free (not the swashbuckling type of pirates though, i dont think they have computers).
Well sites like Megaupload do actually say in their terms of use that they don't condone or permit uploading software illegally. All you'd have to do is go to report abuse and tell the administrators about it and the link's gone. Unfortunately TG2 has made it's way onto the gnutella and bittorrent networks before. This is almost impossible to hit. The only way you can stop that (because the admins of those sites don't believe it's illegal) is to download them and then sabotage the files that you seed.
and al91 is right, you need the serial from PS as it's not created by the program itself, it's done by jmclusky. Someone must've bought it then made a torrent for it.
Edit: @urban_rebellion: ever heard of a guilt trip? A woman named karen matthews kidnapped her own daughter. She then went on TV and pleaded with the "kidnappers" to bring her little girl back.
However, if he's noble in his intentions then I'll keep a wary eye out but it seems to me that if he paid $299 for it he'd spend more time with the program than being an internet vigilante
This is all a load of crap. I wouldn't help anyone do anything. Let Planetside worry about their rights while you don't do anything illegal. I'd leave this alone.
Quote from: urban_rebellion on February 18, 2009, 08:31:27 AM
as it seems members above were suggesting (im looking at you cyphyr).
You got my subtle nod then :)
richard
ps: good call calico
Quote from: PG on February 18, 2009, 08:32:10 AM
Edit: @urban_rebellion: ever heard of a guilt trip? A woman named karen matthews kidnapped her own daughter. She then went on TV and pleaded with the "kidnappers" to bring her little girl back.
However, if he's noble in his intentions then I'll keep a wary eye out but it seems to me that if he paid $299 for it he'd spend more time with the program than being an internet vigilante
I dont get the point of that guilt trip...maybe im just naive but why would anyone kidnap their own baby? is she going to pay herself the reward? (im probably being thick here but humor me) But i agree that if I could afford the deep edition Id be spending time using it, not posting about warez lol.
Quote from: cyphyr on February 18, 2009, 08:41:25 AM
Quote from: urban_rebellion on February 18, 2009, 08:31:27 AM
as it seems members above were suggesting (im looking at you cyphyr).
You got my subtle nod then :)
richard
ps: good call calico
nice ;D
Why would anyone download TG from a hack/wares site when you can download it from Planetside's main site? And I doubt that a cracked key file would work either. Dunno?? Maybe this person works for Matt? ;) Undercover, eh?
Quote from: buzzzzz1 on February 18, 2009, 09:16:55 AM
Why would anyone download TG from a hack/wares site when you can download it from Planetside's main site? And I doubt that a cracked key file would work either. Dunno?? Maybe this person works for Matt? ;) Undercover, eh?
Ohhh Jay, conspiracy! Yes! ;D
I have my own fully licenced copy of terragen 2
and this cracked copy works just as good as my bought version the sad thing is that you can update it through the program update.
most of these file hosting websites have an abuse contact so just email them your complaint and they will take it the link down within 24 hours
and why is everyone being such a bitch about me trying to help out a small company like planetside? most of you people seem to think aw fuck it I bought my copy of terragen 2 let planetside deal with the warez not stopping to think that every time a person downloads terragen 2 from rapidshare planetside looses 300 usd, and where do you think planetside spends their money, buying candy? no they pay their coders to improve terragen 2 and if matt can't pay his programmer what will happen to terragen 2 ill let you smart ass's think that through
the point in me doing this is I have used terragen for about 10 years I have bought both copies legally and it pisses me of when i see people getting it for free so I want to try and keep my favourite program piracy free. the reason I didnt want to post how i take these links off the web is that it reveals how you can obtain a full version of terragen 2 deep beta!
anyway thanks urban_rebellion you seem the only person here who is not totally ignorant..........
Just as i thought dublin...I posted pretty much the exact reasons you just stated above. clever me :D
Quote from: urban_rebellion on February 18, 2009, 08:04:51 PM
Just as i thought dublin...I posted pretty much the exact reasons you just stated above. clever me :D
so you think im not a pirate trying to get his fix of software?
Quote from: buzzzzz1 on February 18, 2009, 09:16:55 AM
Why would anyone download TG from a hack/wares site when you can download it from Planetside's main site? And I doubt that a cracked key file would work either. Dunno?? Maybe this person works for Matt? ;) Undercover, eh?
you must have very little knowedge of the software underworld.
autodesk tryed using an advanced security dongle lock for their precious maya 2008.exe no less than a week later the crack team XFORCE had managed to write an emulator and keygen to bypass maya's high tec security system so I dont think a little key file to block acess to terragen 2 will be much of a firewall to a software cracker
(sorry for my bad english :-[)
Quote from: neuspadrin on February 18, 2009, 08:16:14 AM
And even if tg2 ends up on the net, if we simply report it to planetside (not to this guy), and perhaps even download it and send its registration file to planetside, that should be more then enough for them to sort it out and deal with whoever was leaking it to the net.
I did this months ago..........
I would not be surprised if "Dublin" has the same IP address as the former member known as "Lightning"
Quote from: dublin on February 18, 2009, 08:08:04 PM
Quote from: urban_rebellion on February 18, 2009, 08:04:51 PM
Just as i thought dublin...I posted pretty much the exact reasons you just stated above. clever me :D
so you think im not a pirate trying to get his fix of software?
Lol no i think if you were youd be looking elsewhere. Like I said I dont see how you asking everyone to be vigilant and report piracy could lead to someone on this board then revealing a link to a pirate version (which you posted a link to already so if you wanted a warez version of TG then you could have got it without ever starting this thread).
Quote from: urban_rebellion on February 18, 2009, 08:31:27 AM
...so i dont see how the OP could be fishing for warez versions of TG when he's just asking everyone to keep an eye out for (and report) illegal links as it seems members above were suggesting (im looking at you cyphyr).
If anything Id say he spent a whole lotta dough on his own liscense and doesnt like the idea of pirates using it for free (not the swashbuckling type of pirates though, i dont think they have computers).
Quote from: dublin on February 18, 2009, 07:11:44 PM
and why is everyone being such a bitch about me trying to help out a small company like planetside? most of you people seem to think aw fuck it I bought my copy of terragen 2 let planetside deal with the warez not stopping to think that every time a person downloads terragen 2 from rapidshare planetside looses 300 usd
The way I see it, planetside's not losing $300 because if someone's going to download it illegally then they're not going to pay $300 if that download isn't available
Interesting discussion. ;D We appreciate the concern, to be sure. If anyone wants to take it upon themselves to try to curtail piracy of our software, or any other, that's a noble endeavor. But I think it's safe to say we're not too worried about piracy. We provide a completely free version of our software, and the key system while not terribly sophisticated, is at least a much smaller target than Maya and other well-known software.
I do occasionally look around for a working cracked version of TG2 (TG 0.9 was cracked a long time ago), but I have yet to find one, so it's interesting that Dublin seems to have. As someone mentioned, if we had the key it uses we ought to be able to determine who it's from, unless someone managed to create a working gey generator...
- Oshyan
Quote from: PG on February 18, 2009, 09:11:13 PM
Quote from: dublin on February 18, 2009, 07:11:44 PM
and why is everyone being such a bitch about me trying to help out a small company like planetside? most of you people seem to think aw fuck it I bought my copy of terragen 2 let planetside deal with the warez not stopping to think that every time a person downloads terragen 2 from rapidshare planetside looses 300 usd
The way I see it, planetside's not losing $300 because if someone's going to download it illegally then they're not going to pay $300 if that download isn't available
A certain percentage of them will
Quote from: Oshyan on February 18, 2009, 10:46:54 PM
Interesting discussion. ;D We appreciate the concern, to be sure. If anyone wants to take it upon themselves to try to curtail piracy of our software, or any other, that's a noble endeavor. But I think it's safe to say we're not too worried about piracy. We provide a completely free version of our software, and the key system while not terribly sophisticated, is at least a much smaller target than Maya and other well-known software.
I do occasionally look around for a working cracked version of TG2 (TG 0.9 was cracked a long time ago), but I have yet to find one, so it's interesting that Dublin seems to have. As someone mentioned, if we had the key it uses we ought to be able to determine who it's from, unless someone managed to create a working gey generator...
- Oshyan
do you want me to give you a live link to prove my point...........
Quote from: dublin on February 18, 2009, 10:50:13 PM
Quote from: Oshyan on February 18, 2009, 10:46:54 PM
Interesting discussion. ;D We appreciate the concern, to be sure. If anyone wants to take it upon themselves to try to curtail piracy of our software, or any other, that's a noble endeavor. But I think it's safe to say we're not too worried about piracy. We provide a completely free version of our software, and the key system while not terribly sophisticated, is at least a much smaller target than Maya and other well-known software.
I do occasionally look around for a working cracked version of TG2 (TG 0.9 was cracked a long time ago), but I have yet to find one, so it's interesting that Dublin seems to have. As someone mentioned, if we had the key it uses we ought to be able to determine who it's from, unless someone managed to create a working gey generator...
- Oshyan
do you want me to give you a live link to prove my point...........
Sure, if you have one. It's not that I don't believe you, I just haven't seen any myself yet, that's all.
- Oshyan
I need to correct what Oshyan said about our policy on piracy. It is a concern to us and it does affect our revenue. We appreciate any information that is provided to us about illegal versions of our software so that we can try to limit their spread and provide the best value to our real customers.
Thanks,
Matt
I was not suspicious of the OP because I do the same thing when I see pirated Photoshop plug-ins. While I don't tend to appeal for public help on the forums in this manner, I do privately write my developer contacts and let them know what's going on as I discover it. Out of respect for their efforts to provide good software I try to help them protect their products, even though as a third party it is not necessarily my problem or my obligation to do so.
Correction, I should have said *I'm* not too concerned about piracy. Personally I don't feel that most copy right protection schemes are generally very effective at preventing actual piracy. *Real* piracy must necessarily be defined as someone who would have actually been a purchaser deciding against it because they can get something for free. The vast majority of piraters of most software seem to me to be very casual users who would not have purchased anyway. The small percentage of lost sales is perhaps a concern, but then you must consider how much time, money, and effort you put into fighting the problem. I think we strike a very good balance not having a tremendously involved registration or activation process.
- Oshyan
what I suggest to help prevent piracy of terragen
Incorporate a special pass and code for terragen 2 users that we use when we update our versions because at the moment a pirate can just update via the program and get the latest version with very little ease maybe change the password every update you issue
anyway the pirated copy is licensed to:
Heidi Campbell
Though this may not be her fault as most pirates post copies of software from their company they work for etc
but its worth emailing this person and seeing whats going on ???
the other thing is to get a few guys like me to keep a regular look out on the warez sites of coarse you can not stop 100% of piracy but stopping at least 80% is good enough i think
Thanks, we're on the case! And your work is much appreciated. The update password idea is definitely a good one and we'll have to think about how we might protect the updates in the future.
- Oshyan
thanks also maybe issue a new key when terragen 2 goes gold,
ie so the current key will not work when terragen 2.00 is released?
it maybe hard for jmclusky as I heard the key process is manual.
a simpler option would be to block the 2.00 update via the helps/check for updates
and have it only so you can download it via the email you receive
a third option i recommend is that you incorporate a second key system ie a serial that you paste in once right after you install terragen just to add a little extra security,
the reason for this is that a person may take a copy of terragen 2 (plus the keyfile) from his or hers work post it on the net but since he didn't receive the email with the first unlock code he won't be able to start it. just another idea :)
I see 30 posts on this BS subject and only four posts down I have asked a question concerning something that I am attempting to created with PS software. I can't seem to get an answere while some compulsive obsessive is blathering on about people stealing something that hasn't cost him a farthing. Lets all get our knickers up our blood a boiling and vow war upon that "Warez" evil empire, and forget all about some ridiculous people having difficulty with the Himalayan learning curves of TG2. Why don't we just post the ten commandment while we are a@ it!
Quote from: arisdemos on February 19, 2009, 04:19:19 AM
I see 30 posts on this BS subject and only four posts down I have asked a question concerning something that I am attempting to created with PS software. I can't seem to get an answere while some compulsive obsessive is blathering on about people stealing something that hasn't cost him a farthing. Lets all get our knickers up our blood a boiling and vow war upon that "Warez" evil empire, and forget all about some ridiculous people having difficulty with the Himalayan learning curves of TG2. Why don't we just post the ten commandment while we are a@ it!
the reason im doing this is so ignorant fucking fools like yourself will actually have a piece of software to use in the future do you think planetside has an endless supply of money, well by the looks of the comment above ie (you throwing your little temper tantrum) probably yes.
can we give him some lego to play with? or do you like megablocks better?
Listen you dingbat just use the program and quit running your foul mouth. You are wasting everyone's time (including your own) with your insipid campaign.
oh not another temper tantrum ::)
did you bite the Lego to hard poor we boy
maybe you would like some crayons instead
im surprised you no such a word as insipid what you must only be about 5?
Locked the topic. You guys can argue somewhere else.