Space: 1999's Eagle Series II
I've been working on this Eagle for a while now and hope to start uv mapping, next month sometime. Hehe
I'm curious if any of you folks have figured out the extra settings and how to best apply them to the primitive, for the most part, shapes of models like this. I have a suspicion that the default setting will be the best. Or possibly the Catmull-Rom (sharp). To jitter or not to jitter. Or is it still just a matter of taste, that some like it sharp and others, like the Cubic B-Spline (soft). The later, I'm shying away from as it's not a heavily populated forest glade, that might need softening. Does the effects tab, aid or generate the wave pattern on the panels of the crew cabin?
This render is set at default, as far as extra settings go, quality 1,15,3,4,8
I will try a couple tests, to see, but I'm curious what you think.
Thanks for looking.
See you next month in version 2 :)
So far, this looks like it's coming along really well. I haven't got much experience so I'm happy you tagged the big scary words with smaller ones.
Keep up the great work
V convincing model, and nice moon scape. Takes me back to the day I had the Dinky model ;)
By the way, do you need such high AA because of all the straight lines in the model?
Quote from: domdib on March 30, 2009, 04:29:04 AM
V convincing model, and nice moon scape. Takes me back to the day I had the Dinky model ;)
By the way, do you need such high AA because of all the straight lines in the model?
Thanks, haven't done much of anything with the moon scape yet.
I jump the settings up because this type of render is not slow, and it does help with clarity.
Nice looking model. The moonscape, and especially the landing base, need more texturing.
Quote from: calico on March 30, 2009, 11:13:06 AM
Nice looking model. The moonscape, and especially the landing base, need more texturing.
Thanks Calico, I'm still modeling, I haven't even started the things you've mentioned yet. WIP
I was just curious about the extra settings, not surprised no has answered as I had to ask about 20 times for transparency help. hehe
But i can see where people have other things on there mind right now.
I've used this method on fractal based stuff, changing parameters via an animation to see which comes out best.
If you have the animation version then:
In your camera settings Set your motion blur to 0.
Look next to the AA settings and you'll notice an "Sa" button.
Press "Set Animation Key"
Now move forward a frame and select a different AA setting.
Press "Set Animation Key" again
Repeat till you've done all the AA's you want to test.
Now render a short animation (6 frames ?) and compare your results.
This should give you enough information to choose the best AA settings for your scene.
For a lunar scene I would expect a very harsh light, no softening at all so maybe a crisper AA would be good.
Hope this helps
richard
Sorry I didn't read your entire message thoroughly. Did Cyphyr help?
Quote from: Mandrake on March 31, 2009, 08:17:27 AM
...I was just curious about the extra settings...
Not really, I don't run animation yet, but that ok, it's all good..
The Pixel Filters are really just a matter of taste, for the most part. Your AA setting should probably be at least 6 for any normal render. If you find things sharp, you could increase beyond that. I'm not sure Detail Jitter even affects imported objects, although it might. If you find the "wave pattern" on the panels objectionable, I'd say higher AA would help, and you might also try Detail Jitter. I know this is kind of a cursory answer, but there's a lot going on at the moment. ;) So just ask if you have more questions...
- Oshyan
Thanks Oshyan,
General export/import question.
It's become painfully plain to me that TG2 does does not make use of the phong tag in c4d.
I don't even know if .obj export contains this information.
I know as a standard obj is all over the map. Is this the same type problem with other programs out there?
I know the sphere is procedural but it sure is smooth.
I think what you're after is smooth rendering of normals. This is an option in the OBJ reader, but it depends on the normals being properly setup in the OBJ file, which C4D may not be doing. Running the object through Poseray may help. Then just make sure "Render smooth normals" is enabled.
- Oshyan
Thanks again Oshyan, I'll have to do some comparisons. In this one I used the free riptide exporter.
I'll see what poseray does.
If your chasing "smoothing" options remember that it applies to the whole object, but not on a surface by surface basis. So if you need different levels of smoothing they will have to be on separate models. Also note that when you make your model in the first place you should be able to set a smoothing angle, (if you haven't already done this you can easily do it in Poseray) so you could have a smoothing angle of say 23° on one model/surface and say 35° on another but they will have to be on different models.
richard
Thanks cyphyr, that was a big help.
My phong smoothing angle is not getting through with spanki's free exporter, so, I'll try poseray.
That worked fine cyphyr but as you said the rectangles in the middle don't like the high angle. Figured that would happen.
So I guess the model gets split.
As for the exhaust bell:
Reflection: 1
Refle. Tint: 1
Trans. 0
Index of Refraction 6
Blinn-Beckmann
Highlight intensity .25
Sec Roughness: .0427
And for the dang slowest setting Raytraced Reflections .0165312
As for the reflection being at 1, if you set this down to zero or near zero, does that give it the polished aluminum look?
turning off ray tr... and setting it for the aluminum look may be better off, what do you think?
Whoa, those exhausts look great!!
Thanks Mohawk, not happy with those lower tanks, but it's my first try at building uv mapped textures from scratch. Not easy
I think the Eagle has finally landed..
http://www.terragen.org/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-5894
Would have liked to develope the crater rims more, but no one seems to know how to deform the walls...
Thanks for the look.