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Title: At Peace (Possible NDWA Entry) (Fourth Render)
Post by: Zylot on May 21, 2009, 09:19:21 AM
An image of a grassy field, a few sparse trees, and a soft painted sky.

Ok, so I'm looking at that lousy square in the sky above he trees on the right and shaking my fix.  I like the rest of the formations and don't want a new seed, but I saw this spot and now it sticks out like a sore thumb :/

This new grass sure is good stuff.
Title: Re: At Peace (Possible NDWA Entry) (First Render)
Post by: RArcher on May 21, 2009, 09:34:52 AM
You could use a transform shader and just move the entire formation a little to the side so it is out of view.
Title: Re: At Peace (Possible NDWA Entry) (First Render)
Post by: Zylot on May 21, 2009, 09:53:34 AM
...

and that's why they pay you the big bucks!
Title: Re: At Peace (Possible NDWA Entry) (First Render)
Post by: rcallicotte on May 21, 2009, 12:02:11 PM
More translucency in the grass, due to the sun's angle.  The grass stems look plastic, so it's either more translucency or less reflectivity.  Nice angle and I like the setting.

Title: Re: At Peace (Possible NDWA Entry) (First Render)
Post by: tumasch on May 21, 2009, 01:05:25 PM
Quote from: Zylot on May 21, 2009, 09:19:21 AM
This new grass sure is good stuff.
Yeah, right. ;D
I like your picture! Two things struck my eye, nonetheless. The clouds have a slight lilac touch, but perhaps that's just my screen. And I'd actually like to see more of the view so a slightly different angle would probably show more of the far sight.
Title: Re: At Peace (Possible NDWA Entry) (First Render)
Post by: Mohawk20 on May 21, 2009, 01:35:56 PM
Such realism in the grass!
Title: Re: At Peace (Possible NDWA Entry) (First Render)
Post by: Phylloxera on May 22, 2009, 04:58:13 AM
I think that it is good low to improve without any doubt!
Title: Re: At Peace (Possible NDWA Entry) (First Render)
Post by: Zylot on May 22, 2009, 09:01:31 AM
Taking the solid advice above, here's your:

New sky, less purple, less squares
Improved surfaces, though it's hard to see through the..
..less shiny grass, and more distant grass for consistency.

Now with a windmill, and new lighting.
Title: Re: At Peace (Possible NDWA Entry) (Second Render)
Post by: rcallicotte on May 22, 2009, 09:11:13 AM
What is the grey on the ground in the foreground? 

You know what this reminds of?  That painting by Wyeth, where the girl is in the field.  You know the one?
Title: Re: At Peace (Possible NDWA Entry) (Second Render)
Post by: Zylot on May 22, 2009, 09:17:57 AM
Stones, making them look better is the next step. 

Also: Yessir I do recall the painting, at least, if it's the one I am thinking of.
Title: Re: At Peace (Possible NDWA Entry) (Second Render)
Post by: domdib on May 22, 2009, 09:26:02 AM
The grass is looking v good. To my eye the windmill is too central - gives it too much weight in the composition. And the distant hills seem a bit too small - I'd push them up just a little. Also, a few meadow flowers here and there wouldn't go amiss.
Title: Re: At Peace (Possible NDWA Entry) (Second Render)
Post by: rcallicotte on May 22, 2009, 09:40:33 AM
@Zylot - Not to take away from your work, but I didn't know he had passed away this past January. 

This was the painting I was thinking of - http://hodgeblodge.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/christinas_world.jpg 
Title: Re: At Peace (Possible NDWA Entry) (Second Render)
Post by: Zylot on May 22, 2009, 09:47:07 AM
Yeah that's the one!  Wow, I did not know this either..
Title: Re: At Peace (Possible NDWA Entry) (Third Render)
Post by: Zylot on May 27, 2009, 11:50:02 AM
So where are we:

I original was debating flowers back and forth.. and here's why.  This grass... is gold, it's quality is unmatched.  I was very worried that any flowers would not be able to stand their ground against the grass and would end up looking cheesy.  I was..  very right, as 3 test renders showed.  So, the best bet was to throw them in patches in the distance where they are not seen in detail, more hinted at.  I'm still unsure if I like the effect...

Other changes are obvious, surfacing, addition of a cottage, so forth.
Title: Re: At Peace (Possible NDWA Entry) (Second Render)
Post by: FrankB on May 27, 2009, 12:21:46 PM
This has definitly impoved a lot. The flowers are looking good mixed into the distance.
However, there's something not optimal with the lighting overall, especially with the foreground. I think you need more shadow, to give the area with the grasses more depth.
Do you happen to use any ambient occlusion in this render? Lastly, I'm wondering if the image coud be improved a tad by elevating the camera another meter or so... Just a thought.

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: At Peace (Possible NDWA Entry) (Third Render)
Post by: Zylot on May 27, 2009, 01:20:58 PM
I thought you weren't giving advice on possible submission ;)

Haha, it's ok though, as the suggestions are quite welcome.  The POV change was suggested previously, and hasn't been ignored, I'll give that a shot next.  As for the lighting, I wanted the area illuminated so I can see changes, the AO will be fuddled with eventually.
Title: Re: At Peace (Possible NDWA Entry) (Third Render)
Post by: Zylot on May 29, 2009, 03:10:31 PM
Image speaks for me, eyes hurt.  Basically, trying some ideas, also working on the sky.. next up the background needs work.