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Title: Oa-Zees *another pov page 2*
Post by: Seth on June 01, 2009, 01:35:54 PM
hope you like it ^^
thanks for viewing it full size

vegetation is free xfrog  :D
Title: Re: Oa-Zees
Post by: Phylloxera on June 01, 2009, 02:12:20 PM
(http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Surpris/surpris-yeux-crie.gif)Houla c'est tout bon ça ! J'aime beaucoup ! L'eau est superbe, t'es devenu le spécialiste des vues aériennes plongeantes !
Je vais retrourner bosser !
Title: Re: Oa-Zees
Post by: deepdish on June 01, 2009, 02:12:33 PM
Absolutely amazing, the water, atmosphere, lighting etc etc etc is GREAT
My only complaint is that the trees at the near bottom right look a bit weird growing out of solid rock.
I'd love to know how you colored the water so vividly!
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Post by: MacGyver on June 01, 2009, 02:34:46 PM
The same for me, how did you get the water so green? :)
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Post by: trekker317 on June 01, 2009, 02:37:17 PM
Wow ! Superb and amazing work.

Thierry

ps; je vais finir par regarder TG2 de près !

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Post by: Jack on June 01, 2009, 02:52:51 PM
Really cool water man :o lighting is realy sweet aswell (very vivid) I like it!
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Post by: moodflow on June 01, 2009, 02:56:26 PM
Some of the best foliage I've seen in a while in TG2.

What AA settings did you use?

Also,  if these are the free trees, did you use the default settings for translucency, or did you tweak your own surface shaders for them?

Nice work   8)
Title: Re: Oa-Zees
Post by: Seth on June 01, 2009, 03:19:08 PM
Thanks guys !
for the water, i changed the water "Volume 1 colour" to green and put the density tab to 0.15 and i changed the decay teint to a pale green too. but you must think that the atmosphere colours has a great impact on the water (by changing the sky colour)
the AA is 15. And i did tweak the transluency of the trees (as far as i can remember, the default was set to 0)
Title: Re: Oa-Zees
Post by: Zairyn Arsyn on June 01, 2009, 03:36:18 PM
this is awesome!

yow! 15 AA!

but I don't think I would want to go swimming/fall into that water though.
Title: Re: Oa-Zees
Post by: Hetzen on June 01, 2009, 03:46:43 PM
Really great image. Great atmosphere and shadows. AA 15! It reminds me of an article on the radio a few months back, where a spokesperson for a large chain of supermarkets in the UK was commenting on the difficulty of keeping tinned peas green without the use of atrificial colourings. I thing you have a solution there. ;D

Have you thought about some ground cover around those trees? Like leaf mulch, smaller bushes or a few grasses. It's the only thing stopping me believe this is a photograph.
Title: Re: Oa-Zees
Post by: Seth on June 01, 2009, 03:50:08 PM
yes i thought about adding some groundcover...
but i hit the render button with only 4 population just before leaving home for the week end ;D
I may come back on this one sooner or later. thanks for the advice !
Title: Re: Oa-Zees
Post by: inkydigit on June 01, 2009, 04:56:25 PM
c'est magnifique!....really nice scene...more please!!!
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Post by: darthvader on June 01, 2009, 05:57:50 PM
Your lighting is superb as always! I also love the color of the tree leaves, it looks real...although I think an increase of specularity wouldn't hurt. Great image!!!
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Post by: tee on June 01, 2009, 06:58:56 PM
Got some work to go to beat that, as a newb to TG2 this blows my mind, like so many here.
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Post by: EoinArmstrong on June 02, 2009, 03:12:38 AM
Lovely colours and bloom lighting - great job!
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Post by: GioMez on June 02, 2009, 06:40:06 AM
Strange and lovely water  ;D
I also like your light!
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Post by: rcallicotte on June 02, 2009, 01:36:14 PM
Very good, Seth.  This is why you're not allowed to enter the NWDA contest - so someone else can win it.   ;D
Title: Re: Oa-Zees
Post by: Seth on June 03, 2009, 02:03:26 AM
Quote from: inkydigit on June 01, 2009, 04:56:25 PM
more please!!!

just another view of the (almost) same place
Title: Re: Oa-Zees *another pov page 2*
Post by: darthvader on June 03, 2009, 02:25:37 AM
Epic sense of scale! I also really like the color of the water.
Title: Re: Oa-Zees *another pov page 2*
Post by: inkydigit on June 03, 2009, 03:32:54 AM
mon dieu!.....it is real, love the scale/ and the rock details....bravo!
Title: Re: Oa-Zees *another pov page 2*
Post by: Hetzen on June 03, 2009, 05:39:38 AM
I see your water has gone back to blue with the change in the sky colour, would be funny if you'd left it green. All the interest is now in the shadows, and by that I mean the eye has a field day looking into those clean dark places. Love it.

How did you manage to get the 3D Max teapot into the side of your cliff face? ;D
Title: Re: Oa-Zees *another pov page 2*
Post by: EoinArmstrong on June 03, 2009, 05:47:57 AM
Wow - this is better again - massive sense of scale here!
Title: Re: Oa-Zees *another pov page 2*
Post by: Rhalph on June 03, 2009, 05:53:22 AM
I'll need to progress a lot before arriving to this level of knowledge :P
Title: Re: Oa-Zees *another pov page 2*
Post by: RArcher on June 03, 2009, 10:21:39 AM
Very nice!  Love the lone little tree at the very top.  Glad you didn't clone it out ;D
Title: Re: Oa-Zees *another pov page 2*
Post by: buzzzzz1 on June 03, 2009, 10:41:56 AM
Looks like a teapot up there.  ;)
Title: Re: Oa-Zees *another pov page 2*
Post by: Seth on June 03, 2009, 10:51:35 AM
nice "teapot" isn'it ?!
i was very happy of this rock's shape ;D
Title: Re: Oa-Zees *another pov page 2*
Post by: nvseal on June 03, 2009, 11:58:53 AM
Great work! Love the scale and the terrain. Great color too.
Title: Re: Oa-Zees *another pov page 2*
Post by: MacGyver on June 03, 2009, 12:31:37 PM
Aaah, that's the solution! The black tea changed the water color! :P
Respect, looks like a completely different image to me. Shows what's possible with your terrain :)
Title: Re: Oa-Zees *another pov page 2*
Post by: Zairyn Arsyn on June 03, 2009, 01:11:57 PM
I think I'm going to need a bigger cup... :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Oa-Zees *another pov page 2*
Post by: MacGyver on June 03, 2009, 03:44:29 PM
Perhaps we can meet with dandelO at Campbellton Loch and have a nice cup of tea and a shot of whiskey ;)
Title: Re: Oa-Zees *another pov page 2*
Post by: Seth on June 03, 2009, 05:56:05 PM
hehehe :D
Title: Re: Oa-Zees *another pov page 2*
Post by: dandelO on June 03, 2009, 06:27:17 PM
Quote
How did you manage to get the 3D Max teapot into the side of your cliff face?
Looks like a teapot up there.
I think I'm going to need a bigger cup...
The black tea changed the water color!

Ha, tearrific!
_______________

Very, very nice, Seth! Both of them.

Imagine a base-jump off of even the lowest peak, just above the water portion. Phew. It seems terrifying. Imagine then, going-for-it from the teapot!

I'd hope to land in the teapend and not the shallowend! :D :D :D
Title: Re: Oa-Zees *another pov page 2*
Post by: Seth on June 03, 2009, 06:29:09 PM
i need to be honest about this "teapot" thing guys...
it's... a rendering bug that i've notice during some previews caused by the sun orientation... so i tried to use it as a detail of this render
Title: Re: Oa-Zees *another pov page 2*
Post by: Seth on June 04, 2009, 10:52:34 AM
Quote from: MacGyver on June 03, 2009, 12:31:37 PM

Respect, looks like a completely different image to me. Shows what's possible with your terrain :)

last one...
just to show a different view... not as good as the other ones but i spent 10 minutes (maybe less) on it.
random seed button is my friend ;)
Title: Re: Oa-Zees *another pov page 2*
Post by: inkydigit on June 04, 2009, 11:15:37 AM
nice place for some skinny dippin'!!
Title: Re: Oa-Zees *another pov page 2*
Post by: littlecannon on June 04, 2009, 11:48:32 AM
Top stuff Seth... The scale of the first couple of images are awesome, the last one looks nice and tranquil. Quick dip anyone... apart from Inkydigit, who will apparently be naked. ;D
Title: Re: Oa-Zees *another pov page 2*
Post by: MacGyver on June 04, 2009, 01:24:11 PM
Oh please don't underestimate your image! It's really good! I like the right part especially, due to the overhang :) Really good stuff :-*

Ah, I noticed some banding in the sky, is this also in the original image?
Title: Re: Oa-Zees *another pov page 2*
Post by: Seth on June 04, 2009, 01:54:30 PM
nope... bad jpeg artefacts :(
Title: Re: Oa-Zees *another pov page 2*
Post by: Gforce on June 04, 2009, 05:26:41 PM
wow, amazing lighting and terrain in all three images!
Title: Re: Oa-Zees *another pov page 2*
Post by: EoinArmstrong on June 05, 2009, 03:17:18 AM
Your water is stunning here
Title: Re: Oa-Zees *another pov page 2*
Post by: SpaceMaker on June 05, 2009, 11:13:33 AM
Honestly not so stunning, as all guys tell, but still some good pictures..
Title: Re: Oa-Zees *another pov page 2*
Post by: Seth on June 05, 2009, 11:19:04 AM
Quote from: SpaceMaker on June 05, 2009, 11:13:33 AM
Honestly not so stunning, as all guys tell, but still some good pictures..

thanks :)
maybe you could give some advices to improve my renders... the groundcover was an improvement needed for the first one but maybe you can help me to find more things to do on the 3 images ^^
Title: Re: Oa-Zees *another pov page 2*
Post by: SpaceMaker on June 05, 2009, 11:28:12 AM
I can't really give technical advices bcause I have only used Terragen for few weeks and because I am not the creator of your pictures, so I don't know what you would like to show. I only gave you a personal feeling ..
Title: Re: Oa-Zees *another pov page 2*
Post by: Seth on June 05, 2009, 11:45:20 AM
but maybe you can point something that looks wrong in them ;)
light ? pov ? surfaces ? atmosphere ? colours ? terrain ?
I understand that you took my comments on opinions I did on another thread for yourself, but my question is "what do you think need to be improved", not "what do you don't like in the renders" ^^
so, even if you are not able to give technical advice, you are able to point at the problem you see in these images :)
and be sure that i will appreciate it very much... i always say that critical comments are the only ones that make you improve your skill ! (even if , like everybody on earth i love good all nice comments too)
Title: Re: Oa-Zees *another pov page 2*
Post by: Hetzen on June 05, 2009, 12:17:10 PM
Quoteyou are able to point at the problem you see in these images Smiley
and be sure that i will appreciate it very much... i always say that critical comments are the only ones that make you improve your skill ! (even if , like everybody on earth i love good all nice comments too)

My sentiments exactly. There's nothing worse than being told something doesn't look good without expressing what's wrong or what doesn't quite work. Better to give an idea of what you would like to see improving, whilst still appreciating the effort put in.
Title: Re: Oa-Zees *another pov page 2*
Post by: Seth on June 06, 2009, 08:24:29 AM

I agree with you Hetzen ^^
it seems you won't enlight me with your knowledge pointing the flaws of my renders allowing me to improve them.... too bad, SpaceMaker...
anyway... you shouldn't take things personally, it makes you write useless comments :p

Title: Re: Oa-Zees *another pov page 2*
Post by: dandelO on June 06, 2009, 10:25:25 PM
Stunning! As all guys tell.

I know what it takes to do this stuff correctly and this is a well controlled Terragen work, Seth.
Not a useless comment from Spacemaker, just an inexperienced TG one, maybe? Maybe not.

I think this is good, regardless, especially numbers 1 and 2. :)
Title: Re: Oa-Zees *another pov page 2*
Post by: Seth on June 07, 2009, 03:13:02 AM
thanks dandelO ;D
what i find useless, it's to tell that there is something wrong without tellin what is wrong...
constructive critics are priceless but non-constructive critics are useless ! ^^
Title: Re: Oa-Zees *another pov page 2*
Post by: Henry Blewer on June 07, 2009, 08:53:47 AM
I like the third image as well. It has a Japanese print feel to it.
Title: Re: Oa-Zees *another pov page 2*
Post by: Sp34k on June 07, 2009, 05:11:13 PM
O_O

... Darn ... Not much to say, I'm stunned..
Title: Re: Oa-Zees *another pov page 2*
Post by: dandelO on June 07, 2009, 05:50:04 PM
Wrote to you at DA, Seth, to say I'd bring this up here...

I see something strange in version 1, in the upper-left shadowed area.

It appears to be missing some terrain.
There's a bright area that looks to be lit by pure GI, either that or, it is the waterplane beneath(but I'm also quite sure that you wouldn't have made the lake so big as to be rendered this far beneath the terrain.) . Did the ground fail to render correctly? This must be what the 'teapot' error is aswell.

Looking to the top of this area and there seems also to be a plane added and rendered that isn't part of the terrain, seems higher than the main terrain. Was this to try and cover up the hole in the ground?

I never noticed until I looked at it at DA to add it to my favourites. I don't think anyone else has asked about it.
Title: Re: Oa-Zees *another pov page 2*
Post by: Seth on June 08, 2009, 01:52:51 AM
I don't think it is missing terrain because the vegetation is properely placed on the ground... but there IS something wrong in this part of the render with this "white" part... GI was uncheck btw... and maybe you are right, it's like the teapot error :)
there is no plane added to this scene, the top of this area that seems to not render correctly has a big overhang :)
in fact there are overhangs everywhere on this part of the terrain and the difficult part of this work was to find a pov where i am almost getting rid of them.
TG2 still has some problem with strange displacements :D
thank you dandelO for coming in ^^