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Title: WIP Riverbend
Post by: neuspadrin on June 15, 2009, 10:22:21 PM
Something I started tonight and liked enough to probably work hard on it.  Still a lot to do, but I figured I should head to bed soon before I look at a clock and realize its like 3 am :P.  Stupid work in the mornings....

Currently playing with the background populations, probably will mix up the trees a bit more and the grass too.

After that I plan on working on the rock face a little, playing with colors and probably finding a nice image map for it.

Then the foreground bank, which will have a rocky/rubble area, and some tall grass.


It can get a better name once I get more in the name mood :P
Title: Re: WIP Riverbend
Post by: Henry Blewer on June 15, 2009, 11:04:03 PM
How about "Riverside picnic with riparian entertainments" for the title. You can also add a bossy, older woman with her browbeaten husband in a boat. Naturally a dredge would be working where they are heading. ;D

Actually, you have a really good start. Keep tweaking. I'm sure it will be fantastic.
Title: Re: WIP Riverbend
Post by: neuspadrin on June 16, 2009, 11:15:30 PM
hahaha, interesting help on the title there... but actually i've had a theme past couple images ive had... probably gonna keep to that, just a matter of finding a fit.

anyways, heres an update, didn't have much time to play with it today after getting home from work, i had homework to do (this whole doing work AND doing online summer classes really sucks, no matter how much it helps my schedule once back in school since im working at co-op til December).. the whole positive of work is you get to head home and relax! (and the $$$)

anyways, mostly just played around with the cliffish area.  Still playing around with the background some too.  ignore that grass in the foreground, its simply helping me get size comparisons down.  Definitely need to work on my rock texture with the stripes.
Title: Re: WIP Riverbend
Post by: tumasch on June 17, 2009, 05:24:43 AM
Quote from: njeneb on June 15, 2009, 11:04:03 PM
How about "Riverside picnic with riparian entertainments" for the title. You can also add a bossy, older woman with her browbeaten husband in a boat. Naturally a dredge would be working where they are heading. ;D
You're not talking about our Hyazinth, are you? ;D Great, so I'm not the only one who's had the pleasure to know her...^^
About the picture: this is developing nicely. Like the improvements you've done so far. Not sure if a single plant in the foreground is realistic enough. And perhaps some stones on the shore?
Title: Re: WIP Riverbend
Post by: neuspadrin on June 17, 2009, 07:26:20 AM
Quote from: tumasch on June 17, 2009, 05:24:43 AMLike the improvements you've done so far. Not sure if a single plant in the foreground is realistic enough.

Quoteignore that grass in the foreground, its simply helping me get size comparisons down.

;) havn't gotten to the work in the foreground yet...
Title: Re: WIP Riverbend
Post by: Henry Blewer on June 17, 2009, 07:57:46 AM
The landscape is coming along nicely. Work often interferes with my time on the computer, but I do get a lot of time to think. I work 12 am to 8 am, so there is not much happening unless something really goes wrong.

Yep, the Bucketwoman.

For the title, how about naming it after one of your Grandparents. Like " 'Last Name Here' Creek". My Grandparents always liked to know they were being thought of.
Title: Re: WIP Riverbend
Post by: deepdish on June 17, 2009, 08:52:15 AM
This looks really great, maybe you can add some small fake stones, like pebbles, to break up the uniformity of the river at the shoreline. Other than that, looking NICE.
Title: Re: WIP Riverbend
Post by: neuspadrin on June 17, 2009, 10:56:48 PM
Quote from: deepdish on June 17, 2009, 08:52:15 AM
This looks really great, maybe you can add some small fake stones, like pebbles, to break up the uniformity of the river at the shoreline. Other than that, looking NICE.

yep was already in my plans....

heres some more work on it tonight, got the nwda rock pack started up, and now playing and tweaking it... still quite a bit of work to do on it...
Title: Re: WIP Riverbend
Post by: FrankB on June 18, 2009, 10:08:46 AM
remember to uncheck "blend as stone density" in the fake stone shaders that have a blend shader, to get rid of the exploded stones.

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: WIP Riverbend
Post by: Henry Blewer on June 18, 2009, 12:05:54 PM
Ahhh! Frank, that comment just made my day! I've been battling the exploding stones since I began using them.

The stones really help this image. I think an old log, half buried in the riverbank, set in the foreground, would nearly finish this image. It would be different also. I have not seen anyone use any flotsam.
Title: Re: WIP Riverbend
Post by: Phylloxera on June 18, 2009, 12:28:32 PM
Version 3 fact of appearing beautiful improvements!
Title: Re: WIP Riverbend
Post by: neuspadrin on June 18, 2009, 05:13:40 PM
Quote from: FrankB on June 18, 2009, 10:08:46 AM
remember to uncheck "blend as stone density" in the fake stone shaders that have a blend shader, to get rid of the exploded stones.

Cheers,
Frank

ah thanks for reminding me what it was.  i had just added them in and bumped the sizes up so they would be somewhat right as the last thing before i stopped, and on the larger size i realized fanned as i was doing that render.   i knew there was a way to fix, just couldnt remember exactly what... thanks for saving me trouble digging for it :P 
Title: Re: WIP Riverbend
Post by: neuspadrin on June 18, 2009, 09:18:02 PM
another nightly update ;) i'm going to keep working on it, but the full image render time right now is just over 45 minutes now for what i post, so probably wont get my changes + new render before heading to bed.

Quite a bit of progress though, started actually working on foreground.  I'm loving the hero stone :P takes a bit of editing to get it all good to go though, and still need more tweaking.

got quite a few more ideas of what to do, and tweaking to do.
Title: Re: WIP Riverbend
Post by: Henry Blewer on June 19, 2009, 12:40:43 AM
It's great. I don't know what else can be done without over doing it.
Title: Re: WIP Riverbend
Post by: domdib on June 19, 2009, 04:58:31 AM
I think I would decrease the density of the tree coverage across the river, just so that terrain becomes visible.
Title: Re: WIP Riverbend
Post by: deepdish on June 19, 2009, 12:52:50 PM
Quote from: neuspadrin on June 18, 2009, 09:18:02 PM
another nightly update ;) i'm going to keep working on it, but the full image render time right now is just over 45 minutes now for what i post, so probably wont get my changes + new render before heading to bed.

Quite a bit of progress though, started actually working on foreground.  I'm loving the hero stone :P takes a bit of editing to get it all good to go though, and still need more tweaking.

got quite a few more ideas of what to do, and tweaking to do.

Very nice river pebbles
Title: Re: WIP Riverbend
Post by: Hetzen on June 19, 2009, 04:06:10 PM
Looking really good. I'd might want to break up the near ground texture a little with some larger patches of earth/sand, to get away from that just dumped pile of gravel look. The brighter stones in you last render look really interesting in the water, but too much out of it, so maybe a mix between the second and third ground colour, with the bias toward the second. I also think you could do with some shadows from the rocks and grasses, by slightly shifting your sun position.

Something I've found really usefull when constucting scenes, is turning off the parts I'm not working on, to speed up rendertimes, and allow me to focus on areas being worked. Or just use the crop, lol, but sometimes things like water tend to get rendered even if unseen, fake stones I've found being a bit of a render pig too, etc.
Title: Re: WIP Riverbend
Post by: FrankB on June 19, 2009, 04:38:12 PM
I am always amazed at TG2's capability with those fake stones. Not because in this example they are coming from the fake stone pack, but amazed technically, that creating such a complex environments is possible with standard consumer computers at all!

Regards,
Frank
Title: Re: WIP Riverbend
Post by: neuspadrin on June 19, 2009, 09:40:15 PM
yep, computers sure are awesome and have advanced ALOT in power :).

But yeh i generally do a ton of cropped renders between my full preview renders. Once I get general landscape and generic shaders down, I start doing cropped renders for what area I'm working on, and then every once and awhile do a full render again (not at super high quality or anything, or high res), that allows me to get an overall feel of how the image is doing, and what/where could use some work.  I do those whenever I feel I've done enough changes to an area that it is significant enough to redo a render.

no updates tonight though, after work i spent 3 n half hours driving back home for the weekend for fathers day, and just got in.
Title: Re: WIP Riverbend
Post by: Naoo on June 21, 2009, 12:18:30 PM
Hi

Wow great to see it growing better and better!


ciao
Naoo
Title: Re: WIP Riverbend
Post by: neuspadrin on June 21, 2009, 10:24:24 PM
back with my computer :)

few tweaks... still working on it, trying to get the feel i want...
Title: Re: WIP Riverbend
Post by: Henry Blewer on June 21, 2009, 10:49:42 PM
It's really coming along. I just noticed the light blue peaking through the clouds. Well done. I would be satisfied by now, but from the work you've done before, there is more to come. Can't wait...