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Title: Ranges Wip
Post by: RogueNZ on June 24, 2009, 01:01:25 PM
Hi, just a wip. Ive been looking at this for way to long and need a fresh set of eyes for critique. Thanks for viewing  :)

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y274/gullymuster/good.jpg)
Title: Re: Ranges Wip
Post by: domdib on June 24, 2009, 05:12:19 PM
The mountains seem pretty good, but I think your image is suffering from a lack of a middle ground - there is the dense foliage of the trees, and then the mountains, with nothing clearly visible in between. That makes it difficult to establish a sense of scale. Maybe if you lifted your camera up a bit and angled it down slightly, a midground would come into view. Also, it might help if the snow didn't come right down to where the trees are. Lastly, some clouds would be nice  ;)
Title: Re: Ranges Wip
Post by: Henry Blewer on June 24, 2009, 06:17:04 PM
It looks like the foreground trees have enough elevation so water could be used in the middle ground. It would reflect your mountains and look fantastic. I would have the snow layer start higher up the mountains slopes. Some more trees climbing the slopes would help also. I think they should follow the gullies between the mountains shoulder ridges.
Title: Re: Ranges Wip
Post by: RogueNZ on June 25, 2009, 01:44:24 AM
Hi, thanks for the comments. Ive changed it a little by putting in a lake in the foregound and tweaking the models, but im strugling creating a convincing shoreline. Will have another version up hopefully this evening
Title: Re: Ranges Wip
Post by: RogueNZ on June 25, 2009, 09:05:51 PM
Updated, not so happy with the water or trees yet but getting there
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y274/gullymuster/yay2.jpg)
Title: Re: Ranges Wip
Post by: Henry Blewer on June 25, 2009, 10:16:10 PM
Try using less displacement and smaller wave size on the water. It will help give more reflection of the background.
Title: Re: Ranges Wip
Post by: RogueNZ on July 14, 2009, 07:57:03 AM
Still going
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y274/gullymuster/range.jpg)
Title: Re: Ranges Wip
Post by: Henry Blewer on July 14, 2009, 08:24:51 AM
This is much better. If you would like to add some clouds, just render an atmosphere shot. Then you can import it back in using a default shader for the background. I do this to make the test renders faster, since they do not have to render the cloud layers every time.
Title: Re: Ranges Wip
Post by: domdib on July 14, 2009, 08:30:04 AM
This is now looking very nice. It just shows the value in persisting with a scene, something I learned with the recent NWDA contest. The lighting is good, and the trees and water, and the shoreline displacements are great. Apart from adding clouds, (nice tip from njeneb) if I had one suggestion it would be to slightly shift the POV. This looks as if it's being taken from a boat. How about another camera on the far shore?
Title: Re: Ranges Wip
Post by: Phylloxera on July 14, 2009, 11:55:04 AM
Quote from: SpacemanNZ on July 14, 2009, 07:57:03 AM
Still going
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y274/gullymuster/range.jpg)
This one is better !
Title: Re: Ranges Wip
Post by: RogueNZ on July 14, 2009, 10:23:57 PM
Thanks for your comments  :)

Unfortunately the way i have displaced the terrain to get my lake means that there is now no shoreline behind me :( So i cant do that type of POV, which i agree would work well. I am also pretty bad at doing clouds and i notice a lot of nice images from other people here get away with not having any. But i am giving them a go to see what happens but i cant make ay promises  ;)

Another small update:
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y274/gullymuster/range2.jpg)
Title: Re: Ranges Wip
Post by: MacGyver on July 15, 2009, 02:54:51 AM
You have changed water reflectivity, have you? Or is it something else? It definitely gives a nice touch to the image! :)
Title: Re: Ranges Wip
Post by: domdib on July 15, 2009, 05:08:35 AM
If you are concerned about your cloud quality, there are a lot of good samples in the cloud library in the File Sharing section. Or if you're prepared to spend just a few dollars, NWDA sell some great clouds.