Alright, so I was wondering what kinda of scenes you guys really really want to create. Post some links or images of scenes that you want to portray in Terragen2. Maybe in a couple years you will look back and be able to actually make them! Now lets see some amazing landscapes!
1) http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/37308808/?qo=14&q=by%3Abarns&qh=sort%3Atime+-in%3Ascraps
Any landscape that resides in New Zealand would be ideal for me ;)
2) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Cole_Thomas_Expulsion_from_the_Garden_of_Eden_1828.jpg
Any landscape that was created by Thomas Cole would be amazing! Any hudson river painting actually!
I don't have any images, because I'm lazy :P, but I would like to be able to create:
1)New Zealand scenery
2)Sweden scenery
3)LOTR scenery(haha, I'm serious; like the mattepaintings, but in Terragen)
Then, mainly just realistic renders. I'm not a fan of renders that have no sense of realism in them. :)
Water like this: Linky (http://www.aspen-ridge.net/Shipmates/USS_Calcaterra/DER_390_Photos_1/DER_390_Photos_6/HeavySeas.jpg).
And chaotic skies like this (http://www.wildlife-pictures-online.com/image-files/storm-clouds-oly1739_blog.jpg) and something like this :D (http://www.stayfocusedphotoclub.com/monthly_photo_archive/200310_Dennis_Loughlin_StormClouds2.jpg).
I could not find an image, but maybe a few of you have seen this; the ending scene from "Harry Potter - The Goblet of Fire ". The lake scene is beautiful. If anyone can find the image, please let me know :-)
Been a fan of Albert Bierstadt for a little bit now... would love to create something similar, although I would like to mesh my own style with it as well :D
is that new zealand linky at the top a render or a real photo. and what part of New Zealand is that?
I've done several of new Zealand using DEM's... the Hauraki gulf is great because of the number of islands...
Where's the best place to get DEM data for places other than the US ? I've never managed to find any
google earth has some dems. or
http://srtm.csi.cgiar.org/
http://edc.usgs.gov/products/elevation/gtopo30/gtopo30.html
http://www.visualizationsoftware.com/3dem/downloads.html
http://edcftp.cr.usgs.gov/pub/data/DEM/250/A/
to start with... they all seem to be quite good..
If you have a DEM converting program that can output to .ter (such as Global Mapper or 3DEM) then the best source of US and worldwide DEM's is generally the USGS itself http://seamless.usgs.gov/ However if you need direct .ter export try http://www.mapmart.com/ Note that Mapmart allows only 10 tile downloads per "order" for free, so just go in batches of 10.
- Oshyan
I use 3Dem to do the conversion and normally get my US DEM data from the GIS Data Depot. I'll have a look at the other ones for some world wide ones.
I normally use 10m DEMS so we'll see what I come up with :)
"Maybe in a couple years you will look back and be able to actually make them!"
I believe somthing like this
(http://ic3.deviantart.com/fs11/i/2006/214/5/1/into_the_blue_by_barns.jpg)
IS already quite possable to make with TG2.
Maybe its time we have a picture-re-creation contest?
well i honestly think its STUPID to recreate images. It doesnt require anything but program knowledge. Problem of today CG industry is that there are too many craftsmans and only few artists. So i think its not good idea.
I wouldn't say stupid..
Honestly I think a contest like that would be just what we need.
People are just coming to terms with TG 2, we are starting to understand how the program works..
This contest would be a nice challenge for everyone to really try make something special.
It'd be a bit hard due to the limitations of the Tech Preview, however :D.
is it not everyones goal to create the most realistic landscape they can?..... in that case it would be great to try and achive a recreation of a photo scene.. just to show how realistic TG2 can reproduce....
though artistic rendering is still important...
also i have a 120mb dem of hawaii... need over a 1gb ram to open in 3dem but it should produce some amazing resolution... if i find the linky i will post it... sad my 1gb ram isn't enough to open it:(... its 10m resolution BTW
Quote from: DeanoD on December 22, 2006, 10:25:48 PM
"Maybe in a couple years you will look back and be able to actually make them!"
I believe somthing like this
(http://ic3.deviantart.com/fs11/i/2006/214/5/1/into_the_blue_by_barns.jpg)
IS already quite possable to make with TG2.
Maybe its time we have a picture-re-creation contest?
I have always thought it would be an awesome idea to do such a thing. I believe it would be an amazing skill to have, so maybe sometime we can set this up. :). I am glad someone else thought of this idea as well, I always thought not many people would think highly of the idea.
Outside of the Terragen comunity (Where I do most of my work) allot of people do quite a few picture replications.. and I would certainly call every single one of them artists.. Just because you are copying somthing that has already been done does not mean you cannot put your own artistic influence into the image. Also.. what is the difference between trying to remake a real place.. and trying to remake a real place from the point of view and time that a photo was taken.. If you build somthing that actualy exists you almost always use photo reference if you cant actualy look at it with your own eyes every few seconds.
Thinking about how it could be done..
Either we all pick a photo that everybody has to try and base there scene off.. I quite like this idea.. It means that maybe 50 or so people will take totaly different aproaches to the same task. Looking at other peoples work.. and seeing how they tackled somthing that you have just done is always very interesing and a good way of learning new techniques that you had not thought of.
Or Everybody does there own favorite photo and tries to copy it as much as possable.. and when they post the image you post the real image with it for comparison.
Just my 2 cents... Sorry for waffling on.
I am loving this idea. How many people are interested in this sort of study/practice method?
Only problem with working from a photo is that you won't be able to manipulate the terrain at the moment - a better idea might be to post a DEM of an area and let people loose on that
Quote from: buchvecny on December 22, 2006, 11:01:58 PM
well i honestly think its STUPID to recreate images. It doesnt require anything but program knowledge. Problem of today CG industry is that there are too many craftsmans and only few artists. So i think its not good idea.
I have often thought a photo replication challenge would be great - calling it stupid is just an opinion but I do believe there are other ways saying you're not thrilled about the idea, or its something you're not interested in .... (imho). I like the idea because I don't always have a project in mind and this is just another way of learning and getting inspired. Perhaps the winners can provide the .tgd or give us some idea how they made the piccy?
I've tried photo replication in a couple of my scenes, and it's pretty difficult. Even if those who recreate photos are only "craftsmen" as buchvecny said, they are very skilled ones. I probably wouldn't have the time for this myself, but it sounds like a good idea.
An old Ashunder challenge with additional files?
http://www.ashundar.com/forums.php?m=posts&p=4456 (http://www.ashundar.com/forums.php?m=posts&p=4456)
and
http://www.path.unimelb.edu.au/~bernardk/terragen/ben_nevis/ (http://www.path.unimelb.edu.au/~bernardk/terragen/ben_nevis/)
Hi,
I would definitly go for this scene:
(http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/media/folder_91/thumb_904636.jpg) (http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=904636&member)
;D ;D ;D Volker Harun
Nice pic, btw Volker, can you tell me where this is on Crete? I have been there three times now, and this looks rather familiar to me. Is this maybe the road to a village called Mochos?
Hannes
Great photo! I've got a bunch of nice ones from my trip to Greece, but unfortunately they're not digitized.
Hi Hannes,
I really cannot tell where exactly it was. I was only for 2 days on crete last year. It was on the way from Iraklion southwards to Kastri on the highlands. On the right hand side of the road were a mass of olive trees.
In the image, where the road goes off left - it makes a strong right turn and you can see the road as a horizontal line continue to the right.
When I am right there was a village coming then.
Maybe the attached image, which shows a wider range might help you ??? 8) 8)
Volker
:) My 2 coppers.....
Heck Yeah 'm up for it. Got 10 days vacation next week and nothing better to do cept watch stargate and learn TG2!!!!
Quote from: buchvecny on December 22, 2006, 11:01:58 PM
well i honestly think its STUPID to recreate images. It doesnt require anything but program knowledge. Problem of today CG industry is that there are too many craftsmans and only few artists. So i think its not good idea.
A craftsman is a person who can take people to a place they have never been and make them believe it is real. An artist is someone who wants to do their own thing and expects everyone to like the "art" they have created. Sorry to be blunt but I like realistic more than surrealistic.
I think this would be a great contest. :)
Please see that this is an old argument, but that it could be a good contest for those interested.
An artist - someone who creates something with their abilities that is beautiful.
A craftsman - a skilled artist who is likely skilled enough to make money at being an artist.
To think of a craftsman as superior could mean that your concept in life is you need to make money. Not necessarily a stinky idea. :o
Thank you, Volker. I think, it's not where I thought it would be, but i like it anyway!
Hannes