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Title: Flaky Canyon Strata WIP update 5
Post by: littlecannon on September 05, 2009, 05:48:32 AM
Hi Guys.... Another attempt at creating strata. It's a combo of the tutorial TU gave us (big thanks Martin) and Volker's Cracks (oh er matron and big thanks). It's no where near finished, but I like the crispy flaky strata effect going on here.... please don't touch it as it will crumble and may cause a landslide. ;D Pops and other bits to be added yet.

Again suggestions and comments welcome as usual...
Cheers, Simon.
Title: Re: Flaky Canyon Strata WIP
Post by: Seth on September 05, 2009, 05:58:30 AM
good looking start.
some colours' variation might be a good idea.
Do you plan to add some vegetation or water ?
some reflectivity to the rocks ?
Title: Re: Flaky Canyon Strata WIP
Post by: littlecannon on September 05, 2009, 06:08:53 AM
Hi Seth... Thanks and all that is to come, specular, trees etc. really just working on the rock structure at the moment.... Question: what is the best way to add specular? By using the reflective shader, or default shader? My quip with the default shader is that you cannot turn the colour off... or can you somehow?
Cheers, Simon.
Title: Re: Flaky Canyon Strata WIP
Post by: Seth on September 05, 2009, 06:17:45 AM
personnally i use the reflective shader almost all the time.
just think to uncheck the "ray traced reflections" box or it will take for ever to render.
and remember that reflectivity can sometimes changes the colours of your surface ;)
Title: Re: Flaky Canyon Strata WIP
Post by: Henry Blewer on September 05, 2009, 08:27:56 AM
This looks good to me, but I agree with more colors being needed. Why not use a surface shader and plug the reflective shader into it; maybe a distribution shader would work better?
Title: Re: Flaky Canyon Strata WIP
Post by: CCC on September 05, 2009, 03:39:45 PM
It looks like slate rock which is not really specular at all unless it just rained there or has more quartz in it then usual. For colors some reds and brown greys would look nice. Even purple, green or cyan would work but nothing rich in color but more along the earthy greying hue of a color.
Title: Re: Flaky Canyon Strata WIP
Post by: choronr on September 06, 2009, 02:08:50 AM
For just being in its early stages of creation, I'd say you've got a real goody going here.
Title: Re: Flaky Canyon Strata WIP
Post by: littlecannon on September 07, 2009, 05:09:15 AM
Cheers, guys... another update. I know the trees look awful, they're just to show some scale at the moment.
Cheers, Simon.
Title: Re: Flaky Canyon Strata WIP update 1
Post by: Naoo on September 07, 2009, 06:16:04 AM
Hi

Rocks and cracks are great.

A small water on the ground could be nice.


ciao
Naoo
Title: Re: Flaky Canyon Strata WIP update 1
Post by: Henry Blewer on September 07, 2009, 08:02:07 AM
I want to climb and look for fossils. The gray color added to the cliffs works very well. I like the water shader (if you have not noticed :D), so I agree with a little water. Perhaps in water cut pools, but the river bed itself dry.
Title: Re: Flaky Canyon Strata WIP update 1
Post by: Seth on September 07, 2009, 12:26:50 PM
you definitely need more colour variation on the rock. and some reflectivity (hehe)
Title: Re: Flaky Canyon Strata WIP update 1
Post by: choronr on September 07, 2009, 01:25:44 PM
Quote from: littlecannon on September 05, 2009, 05:48:32 AM
Hi Guys.... Another attempt at creating strata. It's a combo of the tutorial TU gave us (big thanks Martin) and Volker's Cracks (oh er matron and big thanks). It's no where near finished, but I like the crispy flaky strata effect going on here.... please don't touch it as it will crumble and may cause a landslide. ;D Pops and other bits to be added yet.

Again suggestions and comments welcome as usual...
Cheers, Simon.
Hi Simon,

Any chance of getting a clip file of this rock structure? Thanks,

Bob
Title: Re: Flaky Canyon Strata WIP update 1
Post by: littlecannon on September 08, 2009, 06:34:26 AM
Thanks peeps...

Seth: There is a bit (reflectivity) on there already, but it's just not showing enough yet, I'll also play with the colouring a bit more in another version as I do quite like the colour of the rock as it is.... more tinkering needed.

Bob: Sure as soon as I tidy it up... it's a mess at the moment.

Naoo and njeneb: I'm thing about painting in a river bed... dry/wet... not sure on that one yet and there are some great fossils there... wouldn't mind hunting some down myself.

Cheers, Simon.
Title: Re: Flaky Canyon Strata WIP update 1
Post by: Zairyn Arsyn on September 08, 2009, 08:27:42 AM
interesting displacements LC  :)
it must be a long drop to the bottom of the canyon judging from the scale of those trees.  :o
personally i think the surface at the bottom looks sorta plain.
Title: Re: Flaky Canyon Strata WIP update 1
Post by: littlecannon on September 08, 2009, 11:01:09 AM
Thanks Z.... the bottom is a bit plain at the moment... I am just setting up a load of rocks at the base of the cliffs, like they crumbled off and fell there.
Cheers, Simon.
Title: Re: Flaky Canyon Strata WIP update 1
Post by: RArcher on September 08, 2009, 12:32:26 PM
The displacements are looking great!
Title: Re: Flaky Canyon Strata WIP update 1
Post by: Renegade26 on September 08, 2009, 04:34:01 PM
Not sure how you managed it but the scale and texture + lighting are all V V V realistic!

Nice job!
Title: Re: Flaky Canyon Strata WIP update 1
Post by: littlecannon on September 08, 2009, 05:12:58 PM
Cheers Ryan and Renegade26, This one is for Seth ;) Rocks at the base need plenty of work yet and the trees are gone for now (faster rendering). I'm still working on more colour variations, then onto the rest... ;D tinker, tinker.
Cheers, Simon.
Title: Re: Flaky Canyon Strata WIP update 2
Post by: Seth on September 08, 2009, 06:12:30 PM
:D
Title: Re: Flaky Canyon Strata WIP update 2
Post by: choronr on September 08, 2009, 07:16:48 PM
This is looking real goood!
Title: Re: Flaky Canyon Strata WIP update 2
Post by: ndeewolfwood on September 09, 2009, 05:44:29 AM
really cool rocks structures here....i can 't wait your fake stone surfacing... ;D
Title: Re: Flaky Canyon Strata WIP update 2
Post by: Henry Blewer on September 09, 2009, 08:07:16 AM
I like this. The vertical breaks in the surface are really nice.
Title: Re: Flaky Canyon Strata WIP update 2
Post by: Zairyn Arsyn on September 09, 2009, 08:22:27 AM
the canyon displacements/texturing are looking Awesome, plus i  like the FS on  the bottom of the canyon
Title: Re: Flaky Canyon Strata WIP update 2
Post by: littlecannon on September 09, 2009, 02:40:13 PM
Another.... does anyone know what type of trees I might find here, as I don't think these work , they are there to show scale at the moment. Water will be tried later as it slows down rendering.
Cheers, Simon.
Title: Re: Flaky Canyon Strata WIP update 3
Post by: Henry Blewer on September 09, 2009, 02:59:11 PM
Walli's Plant pack pines, including the old pine would work. If it was wetter, Xfrog's sampler pines. Neuspadrin's grass pack has a dry grass patch which would look good also.
Title: Re: Flaky Canyon Strata WIP update 3
Post by: littlecannon on September 09, 2009, 03:10:02 PM
Thanks njeneb... they would work
Title: Re: Flaky Canyon Strata WIP update 3
Post by: FrankB on September 09, 2009, 03:21:12 PM
I would actually go for dry bushes and grasses only, no trees. Sparse distribution, like in US Midwest.

Regards,
Frank
Title: Re: Flaky Canyon Strata WIP update 3
Post by: CCC on September 09, 2009, 04:26:58 PM
Agreed. If this were however north africa we would see clumps of palm trees in deep canyons like this. I guess i depends on what part of the world one want's to portray.    ;D
Title: Re: Flaky Canyon Strata WIP update 3
Post by: littlecannon on September 09, 2009, 04:46:21 PM
Thanks for the suggestions, I did want to try grasses and bushes, but the scale of the canyon made them almost invisible. They would work on a nice low shot (I may try them on the ledge just on the left). And yes, Africa is another thought, which I may follow too. As I have a nice canyon going on here, I can develop other scenes from it. I must focus on what this scene is first. ::)

I'm experimenting with a river at the moment... I couldn't resist. ;) More to follow.

Cheers, Simon.
Title: Re: Flaky Canyon Strata WIP update 4
Post by: littlecannon on September 10, 2009, 08:15:47 AM
This is another version with more colours added into the rock face. (This is a stripped down focus on rock face version.) I have another version with rockfall, trees and river rendering at the moment.

Seth, you may like this one better.....Keep ya posted.

Cheers, Simon.
Title: Re: Flaky Canyon Strata WIP update 4
Post by: domdib on September 10, 2009, 09:46:15 AM
Lovely surfacing  :)
Title: Re: Flaky Canyon Strata WIP update 4
Post by: CCC on September 10, 2009, 07:01:53 PM
That sucker is rich in mineral deposits.   ;D
Title: Re: Flaky Canyon Strata WIP update 4
Post by: littlecannon on September 11, 2009, 02:27:59 PM
Here's another with more stone work and different colours.
Cheers, Simon.
Title: Re: Flaky Canyon Strata WIP update 5
Post by: Zairyn Arsyn on September 11, 2009, 02:39:54 PM
man, this keeps getting better & better!!! ;D :)

i like the render above the most also.
Title: Re: Flaky Canyon Strata WIP update 5
Post by: domdib on September 11, 2009, 04:26:47 PM
The canyon wall is now officially awesome.  ;) But one minor niggle - there seems to be a kind of haze visible further down the canyon - is that deliberate?
Title: Re: Flaky Canyon Strata WIP update 5
Post by: Henry Blewer on September 11, 2009, 05:03:02 PM
Domdib is absolutely correct! The canyon walls are really fantastic.
Title: Re: Flaky Canyon Strata WIP update 5
Post by: littlecannon on September 11, 2009, 05:13:52 PM
Thanks everyone...  :) domdib, I haven't really touched the amto yet. This is a massive bit of rock, so that may have something to do with it? I'm having trouble with showing the scale, I may have to scale up the trees a bit and cheat it to be smaller, as trees look tiny... more like bushes, any suggestions would be good ;)
Cheers, Simon.
Title: Re: Flaky Canyon Strata WIP update 5
Post by: domdib on October 16, 2009, 06:46:33 AM
Are you still working on this one Simon?
Title: Re: Flaky Canyon Strata WIP update 5
Post by: littlecannon on October 16, 2009, 08:37:55 AM
Hi domdib, I have had a break, to let the creative juices flow again.... I will come back to it soon. It's so easy to get side tracked into another project, as there is so much to learn. I'm trying to battle away with the colour variation in populations at the moment.... I don't understand how to achieve this, although it looks fairly simple, it seems I am too. ::)

Cheers, Simon.
Title: Re: Flaky Canyon Strata WIP update 5
Post by: nvseal on October 16, 2009, 11:18:37 AM
This is looking great.
Title: Re: Flaky Canyon Strata WIP update 5
Post by: Stridemovies on November 01, 2009, 08:41:24 PM
Nice work, Hope to see some more soon
Title: Re: Flaky Canyon Strata WIP update 5
Post by: TheBlackHole on November 01, 2009, 09:35:11 PM
Get those trees away from the canyon! I like it better with just rocks. Maybe add a flying saucer down at the bottom picking up a rock for analysis?  :D That would be better for scale than a bunch of tiny trees growing through the rocks. :D
Title: Re: Flaky Canyon Strata WIP update 5
Post by: CCC on November 02, 2009, 04:27:05 AM
Some conifers and shrubs would look nice down there. For that type of climate it would make sense but to be honest several dry shrubs and a few dry grasses would be nice.
Title: Re: Flaky Canyon Strata WIP update 5
Post by: choronr on December 22, 2009, 08:11:51 PM
Hi Simon,

I'm interested in this strata work. Would you be willing to share the .tgd?

Bob
Title: Re: Flaky Canyon Strata WIP update 5
Post by: Zairyn Arsyn on December 22, 2009, 10:11:11 PM
Quote from: choronr on December 22, 2009, 08:11:51 PM
Hi Simon,

I'm interested in this strata work. Would you be willing to share the .tgd?

Bob

i'm with choronr on this one.
Title: Re: Flaky Canyon Strata WIP update 5
Post by: Dune on December 23, 2009, 11:56:32 AM
The last render is very, very nice. You'd need something to show the immense depth, like a cabin or ruin down there, some animals, trees that you can 'see the size of', and then something on the rock face, like a bird or a pluck of grass or shrub, or a gnarled old tree holding tight and leaning over the canyon. Keep it up!
Title: Re: Flaky Canyon Strata WIP update 5
Post by: Gannaingh on December 23, 2009, 03:44:44 PM
How have I missed this?! This looks great, fine work!
Title: Re: Flaky Canyon Strata WIP update 5
Post by: Linda McCarthy on December 24, 2009, 02:38:30 AM
Really awesome stuff!  Linda
Title: Re: Flaky Canyon Strata WIP update 5
Post by: freelancah on December 24, 2009, 03:38:31 AM
Marvelous work. Extremely realistic!
Title: Re: Flaky Canyon Strata WIP update 5
Post by: carbon_adam on January 28, 2010, 06:28:59 AM
wow! I love the surfacing, this would make an great example file to share! Is ther any chance you might be willing to share it?
cheers
Adam