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Post by: ThinkPink on October 26, 2009, 03:45:26 PM
after several weeks .... a new render.

it was a "quick & dirty" one .... total time (incl. render) 3h

TG2 with postwork in PS
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Post by: Marcos Silveira on October 26, 2009, 04:14:41 PM
A very moody image.
I like it!!! The atmosphere is awesome!!!
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Post by: Kadri on October 26, 2009, 04:17:37 PM
Nice.

Can you show one without DOF ? I would love to see it.

Kadri.
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Post by: Gannaingh on October 26, 2009, 05:39:23 PM
I agree that the atmosphere and the mood are superb! The trees and the birds really compliment the image very well. My only gripe would be that the terrain is not to the same caliber as the rest of the image. I want to see more of this one! :)
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Post by: MGebhart on October 26, 2009, 09:23:05 PM
I'm half expecting a werewolf to jump out.

Very nice.

Marc
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Post by: Dune on October 27, 2009, 04:00:05 AM
I second DV; the atmo is really stunning, but the terrain should be more natural. Then it's a winner. Much lower peaks, some subtle outcrops perhaps, some small scattered stones...

---Dune
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Post by: inkydigit on October 27, 2009, 06:03:31 AM
I echo Dune et al...very nice!
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Post by: ThinkPink on October 27, 2009, 10:08:03 AM
thanks for your helpfull comments !!!

I did the render once more and resized the terrain. The problem was, that it is an old WM-Terrain with a mountain height of 2000m. But when loaded in TG2, the altitude of this terrain grow up to over 22000m!
I added 3 fake stone layers (large, medium and small) and changed the POV

This is now the original render - no colours, staturation, brightness manipulation in PS. Only the trees and the birds are added in PS.

But I don't know which version is better: this one with the part of the tree on the left side or the image without the left tree ... :-\

What do you think?
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Post by: Henry Blewer on October 27, 2009, 10:10:39 AM
The one with the tree on the left. Nice.
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Post by: Zairyn Arsyn on October 27, 2009, 10:43:03 AM
excellent atmospheres. 8)

I particularly like the dead trees in the middle ground & the fake stones in render 2

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Post by: littlecannon on October 27, 2009, 11:26:42 AM
As he shouts, "one with the tree".

Nice render... I love the atmo and stones and trees and.......

Cheers,
Simon.
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Post by: Kadri on October 27, 2009, 11:46:30 AM
I insist about the DOF :D

Joke aside , someone from you will maybe say something about this , but most of the time DOF on the foreground make the things in pictures like miniatures... DOF on the backround not so...

I see this as a miniature ... Is this only me ?

Nothing to say other then this. I like it :)

Kadri.
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Post by: MacGyver on October 27, 2009, 12:17:31 PM
Quote from: Kadri on October 27, 2009, 11:46:30 AM
I insist about the DOF :D

Joke aside , someone from you will maybe say something about this , but most of the time DOF on the foreground make the things in pictures like miniatures... DOF on the backround not so...

I see this as a miniature ... Is this only me ?

Nothing to say other then this. I like it :)

Kadri.

I see what you mean, looks miniature indeed...
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Post by: Gannaingh on October 27, 2009, 02:05:12 PM
I agree that the one with the tree on the left side is indeed better. Bigger please :)
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Post by: Marcos Silveira on October 28, 2009, 06:05:30 AM
Quote from: Kadri on October 27, 2009, 11:46:30 AM
I insist about the DOF :D

Joke aside , someone from you will maybe say something about this , but most of the time DOF on the foreground make the things in pictures like miniatures... DOF on the backround not so...

I see this as a miniature ... Is this only me ?

Nothing to say other then this. I like it :)

Kadri.

Well there is a technic in photography called "Diorama" where you can change a photo of a real landscape into something resembling a miniature.

Believe me, these are real jets:

(http://psdtuts.s3.amazonaws.com/275_Diorama_Illusion/f10.jpg)
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Post by: Kadri on October 28, 2009, 07:44:31 AM
Quote from: ro-nin on October 28, 2009, 06:05:30 AM
Quote from: Kadri on October 27, 2009, 11:46:30 AM
I insist about the DOF :D

Joke aside , someone from you will maybe say something about this , but most of the time DOF on the foreground make the things in pictures like miniatures... DOF on the backround not so...

I see this as a miniature ... Is this only me ?

Nothing to say other then this. I like it :)

Kadri.

Well there is a technic in photography called "Diorama" where you can change a photo of a real landscape into something resembling a miniature.

Believe me, these are real jets:


Nice :D

They really look like  miniatures.

Kadri.
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Post by: matrix2003 on October 28, 2009, 08:03:14 AM
How is the DOF being achieved here.  Is it blur or plugin in PS, or using DOF tecnique in TG2?
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Post by: inkydigit on October 28, 2009, 08:25:56 AM
the one with the tree...how did you make the atmo, what were your sunlight setting?
tilt shift photography is what you are thinking of?
easy to fake in ps...( http://www.tiltshiftphotography.net/photoshop-tutorial.php (http://www.tiltshiftphotography.net/photoshop-tutorial.php) )
and heres one I made ... http://fc09.deviantart.com/fs43/f/2009/113/f/7/Miniature_Prague_by_inkydigit.jpg (http://fc09.deviantart.com/fs43/f/2009/113/f/7/Miniature_Prague_by_inkydigit.jpg)
cheers
J
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Post by: matrix2003 on October 28, 2009, 08:34:53 AM
Nice tilt shift image Inky!  I have yet to play with that.  Been an HDR addict lately with my Canon.  - Bill .
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Post by: ThinkPink on October 29, 2009, 02:11:19 PM
Ok ....  ???  I don't know exactly what you mean with "miniature" ....
Here is the image without "blur"  / DOF (made in PS with a mask) and the tree on the left side

The settings of the atmo are:
haze density: 5.55
haze colour:  0.72 (very light grey)

haze exp height: 13000
Bluesky ep height: 15000

rest default

Lightning settings are: (you are looking Southeast)
Sun 1 (visible sun in front): Heading 153; Evaluation 4.8; Colour 24/79/142 (light Brown/dark yellow); strenght 1.08
Sun 2 (not visible): Heading 245; evaluation 31.5; Colour (white); strenght 2.3
Sun 3 (not visible): Heading 0 (or 360); evaluation 9.0; Colour (white); strenght 2.3
All suns with soft shadows

Render settings
detail: 0.9
GI 0/0/0
Effects - Contrast  0.6875
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Post by: Kadri on October 29, 2009, 02:22:28 PM
Thanks , ThinkPink.
Please don't take our/mine talking about DOF and such as a negative approach .
This picture is realy nice. It has a artistic feeling.

Cheers.

Kadri.
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Post by: Zairyn Arsyn on October 29, 2009, 02:27:52 PM
once again, it looks awesome. 8)
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Post by: MacGyver on October 30, 2009, 03:05:36 AM
Quote from: ThinkPink on October 29, 2009, 02:11:19 PM
Ok ....  ???  I don't know exactly what you mean with "miniature" ....
Here is the image without "blur"  / DOF (made in PS with a mask) and the tree on the left side

The settings of the atmo are:
haze density: 5.55
haze colour:  0.72 (very light grey)

haze exp height: 13000
Bluesky ep height: 15000

rest default

Lightning settings are: (you are looking Southeast)
Sun 1 (visible sun in front): Heading 153; Evaluation 4.8; Colour 24/79/142 (light Brown/dark yellow); strenght 1.08
Sun 2 (not visible): Heading 245; evaluation 31.5; Colour (white); strenght 2.3
Sun 3 (not visible): Heading 0 (or 360); evaluation 9.0; Colour (white); strenght 2.3
All suns with soft shadows

Render settings
detail: 0.9
GI 0/0/0
Effects - Contrast  0.6875

Hallo ThinkPink... dein Bildtitel hört sich sehr deutsch an, deswegen versuch ich's einfach mal ;) Durch die Tiefenunschärfe, die bis jetzt im Bild war sah alles auf dem Bild sehr klein aus, wie bei einer fotographischen Nahaufnahme mit weit offener Blende. Die Bäume hätten also theoretisch 15cm groß sein können statt 15m. Hoffe das hilft dir weiter :)
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Post by: ThinkPink on October 30, 2009, 04:41:04 AM
@MacGyver: Richtig!  ;) Ich komme aus dem Großraum Stuttgart. Ich verstehe was Du meinst ... Es kommt vermutlich, wie oft bei optischen Täuschungen, auf den ersten Blick an, der sich dann einprägt. Ich hab's mehrfach versucht, die Bäume als Miniaturen zu sehen - ohne Erfolg  :D ich selbst komme aus der Fotografie (Landschaftsaufnahmen) und habe deshalb mit der Tiefenschärfe gespielt.

@all others (in my "german english"  :D)
Right! I'm from Germany near Stuttgart. I think I know what you mean ... perhaps it is like often with visual illusions, the first look on an image counts. I tried it several times to see the trees as "miniatures" - no chance  ;D I am a photographer (landscapes) and that why I played with the DOF ...
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Post by: Kadri on October 30, 2009, 05:34:36 AM
MacGyver , bist du auch aus Deutschland? Ich habe vor 35 Jahren in der Naehe von Darmstadt (in Niederramstadt) gelebt.
Ich würde mich freuen zufaellig alte Freunde hier zu treffen  ;D

MacGyver ,are you from Germany too? I used to live 35 years ago  near Darmstadt (in Niederramstadt).
It would be nice to accidentaly meeting old friends here  ;D

Okey,back to topic :)

ThinkPink , can you show us some of your photos please?

Kadri.
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Post by: ThinkPink on October 30, 2009, 08:41:39 AM
@Kadri: my own homepage:   www.imago-photodesign.de/landscapes.html (http://www.imago-photodesign.de/landscapes.html)  "Landschaften" (landscapes) is my current work. All Black & White. If you click on "Galerie" and then "Portrait", "Akt" (nude) or "Hochzeiten" (weddings) you can see old stuff i made several years ago.

You can also find images there: http://view.stern.de/de/profile/OliH (http://view.stern.de/de/profile/OliH)
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Post by: Kadri on October 30, 2009, 04:49:12 PM
ThinkPink , your photos are really good.I would love to see them bigger :)

Thanks.

Kadri.
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Post by: Zairyn Arsyn on October 30, 2009, 07:17:26 PM
thinkpink, your photography is superb. :)

i agree with kadri, they could be bigger
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Post by: littlecannon on November 04, 2009, 12:40:19 PM
Bigger... yes. BUT still amazing photos. The HDR one of the mountains is awesome... and the rolls of hay in the field (my fav)... and the rest of them, well, they're all nice. Great work.
Cheers,
Simon.