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Title: Generic Pines Snow Pack
Post by: MGebhart on November 26, 2009, 10:38:37 AM
Here is the Pines Pack with Snow.

http://web.me.com/marcgebhart1/New_Site_Under_Constuction/GenericPinesSnow/GenericPinesSnow.zip

I haven't seen snow covered tree .tgo's so, I made some. Enjoy.

GenericPinesSnow.zip 22mb.


Marc
Title: Re: Generic Pines Snow Pack
Post by: Falcon on November 26, 2009, 11:49:45 AM
Thank you! That's great to have since I'm doing a lot of winter scenes right now. :-)
Title: Re: Generic Pines Snow Pack
Post by: Henry Blewer on November 26, 2009, 01:34:48 PM
These look great. Thanks for the ninety-ninth ;D time!
Title: Re: Generic Pines Snow Pack
Post by: domdib on November 26, 2009, 04:00:08 PM
Many thanks both for this and the non-snow ones - EXTREMELY useful.
Title: Re: Generic Pines Snow Pack
Post by: Kadri on November 26, 2009, 05:20:08 PM
You make me feel guilty MGebhart . I have to thank you ones more too  ;D

Kadri.
Title: Re: Generic Pines Snow Pack
Post by: MGebhart on November 26, 2009, 06:53:45 PM
You all are welcome.

I sent the family to Texas for a week and I am being completely useless. Well, except for making stuff for T2 Artists.
I think I have a pretty good grasp on XFrog now so, I can start creating stuff for my Architectural renderings. That should pay for the software.

The wife and boys will be home Sunday so I can still whip-out a few more packs before they get all my attention.  ::)

Marc
Title: Re: Generic Pines Snow Pack
Post by: choronr on November 29, 2009, 11:01:53 PM
Thank you Marc, I will put these to good use ...really appreciate your generosity.

Bob
Title: Re: Generic Pines Snow Pack
Post by: Cadmium77 on December 06, 2009, 07:20:21 AM
Thanks a lot. Very nice work.
Title: Re: Generic Pines Snow Pack
Post by: Linda McCarthy on December 12, 2009, 12:25:42 AM
Marc, I wanted to thank you for the trees.  I've included my most recent render in which I used your PineSnow3 tree as a population.  I posted the image at Renderosity, gave you credit and provided a link to the file download.  I tried to effect snow on the trees i was using prior to finding your file..but to no avail, and I really appreciate your creative ingenuity, as well as your generosity in sharing the files.  Linda
Title: Re: Generic Pines Snow Pack
Post by: MGebhart on December 12, 2009, 03:44:38 PM
Thank you Linda.

Very nice render.

Marc
Title: Re: Generic Pines Snow Pack
Post by: TheBlackHole on December 12, 2009, 03:48:50 PM
Is it just me, or are those snowy trees just regular trees with white leaves? :-\
Title: Re: Generic Pines Snow Pack
Post by: MGebhart on December 12, 2009, 03:57:05 PM
You are correct sir.  ???
Title: Re: Generic Pines Snow Pack
Post by: Linda McCarthy on December 12, 2009, 05:38:44 PM
Marc
How do I map the snow onto the trees?  Or is that posssible?
Thanks,
Linda
Title: Re: Generic Pines Snow Pack
Post by: folder on December 12, 2009, 06:07:25 PM
Hi, Linda

try this an idea by Osyshan

http://forums.planetside.co.uk/index.php?topic=758.0

folder
Title: Re: Generic Pines Snow Pack
Post by: Linda McCarthy on December 13, 2009, 01:56:03 AM
Thanks so much, Folder!
Title: Re: Generic Pines Snow Pack
Post by: MGebhart on December 13, 2009, 12:49:54 PM
Hi Linda,

The suggestion by Oyshan and Folder works well for distant trees however, if you need the detail on close pines you may want to stick with my technique. You may want to use both techniques in a scene.

If you study the provided images you will understand why. Using the modified node network version you notice that the needles revert to square geometry. The squares are used to map the needle and needle alpha images to. Using the node network modification eliminates the alpha channel, so you get the square geometry.

My technique was to bring in the needle image into Photoshop and select part of the green needles and color them white leaving some green needles showing. This looks more realistic because all the needles are not covered in snow due to the above needles blocking falling snow. (in real life.) Also, this allows you to use the alpha image thus providing the needle geometry to show. Again, making it more realistic. You may want to paint the needle image completely white to achieve a denser look while preserving the alpha source image.

I'm sure there is a way to get my result using Oyshan and Folder's technique, but I don't know how to setup the network to get the same result.

I like Oyshan and Folder's technique for distant and denser snow packed pines.

Study the needle images in the Generic Snow Pines Pack folder to see how they were created.

Note: I'm new to T2, so I'm certain I'm missing something that advanced users know.

Hope this helps.

Marc

Title: Re: Generic Pines Snow Pack
Post by: Linda McCarthy on December 13, 2009, 02:51:44 PM
Hi Marc,

Thank you very much for taking the time to explain the why's and wherefore's.  I knew nothing about this process, as I hadn't taken the time to read your documentation that was apparently included in the files I downloaded.  Well, I assumed the snow was already built into the node network for your trees- in other words, that all the work had been done for me. Now I know "next to nothing" but enough to picque my interest. :P

What you have written here does makes some sense to me.  I will certainly give it a try.  In the meantime, I have one in the oven in which I used the technique folder referred me, by Oshyan.  Looks like it may have worked for what I needed for my current render.

Thanks again (and for the great trees- with or without snow).

Linda

Quote from: MGebhart on December 13, 2009, 12:49:54 PM
Hi Linda,

The suggestion by Oyshan and Folder works well for distant trees however, if you need the detail on close pines you may want to stick with my technique. You may want to use both techniques in a scene.

If you study the provided images you will understand why. Using the modified node network version you notice that the needles revert to square geometry. The squares are used to map the needle and needle alpha images to. Using the node network modification eliminates the alpha channel, so you get the square geometry.

My technique was to bring in the needle image into Photoshop and select part of the green needles and color them white leaving some green needles showing. This looks more realistic because all the needles are not covered in snow due to the above needles blocking falling snow. (in real life.) Also, this allows you to use the alpha image thus providing the needle geometry to show. Again, making it more realistic. You may want to paint the needle image completely white to achieve a denser look while preserving the alpha source image.

I'm sure there is a way to get my result using Oyshan and Folder's technique, but I don't know how to setup the network to get the same result.

I like Oyshan and Folder's technique for distant and denser snow packed pines.

Study the needle images in the Generic Snow Pines Pack folder to see how they were created.

Note: I'm new to T2, so I'm certain I'm missing something that advanced users know.

Hope this helps.

Marc


Title: Re: Generic Pines Snow Pack
Post by: AndyWelder on January 07, 2012, 05:56:16 PM
Marc, the download link isn't working anymore, could you please update?
Title: Re: Generic Pines Snow Pack
Post by: MGebhart on January 07, 2012, 07:31:16 PM
I'll check into it, Andy.