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Title: Mount Suradri
Post by: sjefen on January 02, 2010, 07:20:08 PM
It's been a while since I've posted anything and I wanted to give the new build a try :)

Some of you may recognize this scene. It an older one of mine that I wanted to make some improvements for. The whole atmosphere is changed and I have worked some with the terrain. I was not very happy with the way the mountain looked before so that was my main focus.
I think it looks better. It kinda looks a little bigger and has a little more "alpine look" now.

The name is just something I made up. It's not a real mountain or anything like that, but the terrain is based on a "Mount Adams" heightfield.
Anyway... I wanted the name to have a meaning as well, so 10 point to the one that can figure out what it means ;)

Hope you like it.

Regards,
Terje
Title: Re: Mount Suradri
Post by: Kadri on January 02, 2010, 11:57:59 PM
"Mountain of the gods" i think ? Without internet it would be  much harder...but then we wouldn't be here  :)

Anyway this image has a refreshing feeling to me. You can use it in freshwater commercials and so (no sarcasm) .
It is really good.I think only some of the ground (left) and a little more variation in the trees could be better.

Kadri.
Title: Re: Mount Suradri
Post by: sjefen on January 03, 2010, 07:55:01 AM
Thank you Kadri.
I agree with you on the ground to the left. I was not to happy with that. Maybe I'll change it later some time.

And yes. "Mountain of the gods" is correct. 10 points to you ;)

Regards,
Terje
Title: Re: Mount Suradri
Post by: Henry Blewer on January 03, 2010, 08:17:39 AM
I think the left side could be improved by adding a population of some brush of some sort. The tree line seems too sharp. Everything else looks very good. Nice work.
Title: Re: Mount Suradri
Post by: domdib on January 03, 2010, 11:24:37 AM
Fantastic water. Agree that the trees need some work - vary sizes, break up the tree line. Also maybe a grass layer underneath them. But the overall composition is very nice.
Title: Re: Mount Suradri
Post by: Tangled-Universe on January 03, 2010, 11:48:59 AM
Very nice work here. I like the mood, atmo and lighting. Nice background mountain as well.

Quote from: njeneb on January 03, 2010, 08:17:39 AM
I think the left side could be improved by adding a population of some brush of some sort. The tree line seems too sharp. Everything else looks very good. Nice work.

Definitely agree. Besides that I also really think you should reduce scale-size of the trees by half. Then triple the density at least, because they're too spaced.
Maybe you could also add some extra elements to the surfacing like rocks etc.

Martin
Title: Re: Mount Suradri
Post by: old_blaggard on January 03, 2010, 12:20:48 PM
Great job! I agree with Martin's comments, but this is already a pretty great scene.
Title: Re: Mount Suradri
Post by: Jack on January 03, 2010, 03:10:20 PM
Super work I love the lighting!

I would also mask out the cloud that hangs over the mountain top with a paint shader it sort of reduces the sense of scale of the mountain. and agree with what martin said smaller trees and heaps more of them!
Title: Re: Mount Suradri
Post by: sjefen on January 03, 2010, 04:29:46 PM
Thanks guys. They are all great ideas and I want to give them a try.
I'll post an update when it's ready, but it will probably take some time. Tomorrow it's back to the real work again :(

Regards,
Terje
Title: Re: Mount Suradri
Post by: FrankB on January 03, 2010, 06:45:11 PM
Very good render, Terje, especially on the lighting, POV and the snow coverage!

Frank
Title: Re: Mount Suradri
Post by: EoinArmstrong on January 04, 2010, 04:27:47 AM
Love the symmetry and the lighting - the snow is excellent too - love this!
Title: Re: Mount Suradri
Post by: MacGyver on January 04, 2010, 11:10:17 AM
Very good! This reminded me of some Vista (R.I.P.) backgrounds :)
Title: Re: Mount Suradri
Post by: inkydigit on January 04, 2010, 02:01:03 PM
agree with Eoin!
Title: Re: Mount Suradri
Post by: Thelby on January 04, 2010, 03:29:27 PM
The lighting and the mountain are really very nice!!!
Title: Re: Mount Suradri
Post by: Linda McCarthy on January 04, 2010, 04:38:41 PM
What a wonderful point of view, and the lighting seems perfect.  Beautiful work, Terje.
Title: Re: Mount Suradri
Post by: MacGyver on January 05, 2010, 06:32:32 AM
Ah, that was what I was thinking about...

(http://vistawallpapers.files.wordpress.com/2007/03/vista-wallpaper-bliss.jpg)
Title: Re: Mount Suradri
Post by: sjefen on January 05, 2010, 12:39:02 PM
Hehe. Tanks guys :)
I've started working on a update. It will still take some time before it's ready, but I'll post it here as soon as it's done.

MacGyver - Do you know where that is in the picture you have posted?

Regards,
Terje
Title: Re: Mount Suradri
Post by: Marcos Silveira on January 05, 2010, 02:22:43 PM
WOW!!!! :o
Stunning!!!
Title: Re: Mount Suradri
Post by: MacGyver on January 05, 2010, 03:22:34 PM
Quote from: sjefen on January 05, 2010, 12:39:02 PM
MacGyver - Do you know where that is in the picture you have posted?

I remember reading it around 2006 when Vista came out but I forgot... perhaps someone around here has an idea?
Title: Re: Mount Suradri
Post by: FrankB on January 06, 2010, 03:03:57 AM
... and that vitsa image looks a lot like the the render from Saurav, made a while back :)
http://www.planetside.co.uk/gallery/f/tg2/glacier_vallery_saurav_subedi.jpg.html
Title: Re: Mount Suradri
Post by: sjefen on January 08, 2010, 07:41:29 PM
Quote from: wetbanana on January 03, 2010, 03:10:20 PM
...I would also mask out the cloud that hangs over the mountain top with a paint shader it sort of reduces the sense of scale of the mountain...
I want to do this, but I really don't know how ???
I don't understand what to do and where to begin. If someone could explain me how to mask out that cloud over the mountain I will do it :)

Regards,
Terje
Title: Re: Mount Suradri
Post by: Gannaingh on January 08, 2010, 08:02:11 PM
The easiest way would just be to use a distance shader. Just copy and past some coordinates from the top of your mountain, make a new camera at that location and then use that as the base camera for a distance shader the eliminates the cloud within a desired radius around the mountain.

Or you could create a paint shader and pain the area you do not want clouds to be in and then use that as an inverse blend shader for you cloud layer.

I hope that makes sense :)
Title: Re: Mount Suradri
Post by: CCC on January 08, 2010, 08:21:56 PM
What is unique in the photograph is a more rigid terrain verses Saurav's softer ridges, also in the photo with hints of strata and deep cut erosion as well.
Title: Re: Mount Suradri
Post by: sjefen on January 08, 2010, 09:07:56 PM
Thank you darthvader1.
I used the "Paint Shader" and got rid of the cloud. I've tried this before on other scenes, but never figured out how to find the right spot. In this scene it was not very hard cause of the easily recognizable mountain :)

Regards,
Terje
Title: Re: Mount Suradri
Post by: Tangled-Universe on January 09, 2010, 12:27:19 PM
Quote from: sjefen on January 08, 2010, 07:41:29 PM
Quote from: wetbanana on January 03, 2010, 03:10:20 PM
...I would also mask out the cloud that hangs over the mountain top with a paint shader it sort of reduces the sense of scale of the mountain...
I want to do this, but I really don't know how ???
I don't understand what to do and where to begin. If someone could explain me how to mask out that cloud over the mountain I will do it :)

Regards,
Terje

Hi Terje,

I'd strongly recommend to read this:

http://www.nwdanet.com/tech-articles/8-distance-shader-magic.html (http://www.nwdanet.com/tech-articles/8-distance-shader-magic.html)

Distance shaders and combinations of them are really powerful masking tools :)
If you need any help just let me know.

Martin
Title: Re: Mount Suradri
Post by: sjefen on January 09, 2010, 02:37:17 PM
Thank you Martin. I've never seen that before.
I can see it's a very powerful tool and I will probably use it many times in the future ;)

Regards,
Terje
Title: Mount Suradri - Update
Post by: sjefen on January 10, 2010, 04:18:26 PM
So here's an update :)

All tho it's mostly better without the cloud over the mountain, I have noticed that the cloud that used to be there also gave the mountain a extra yellow light in the shadows which was very nice so don't be surprised if the cloud returns ::)

Anyway. I hope the rest is an improvement.

Regards,
Terje
Title: Re: Mount Suradri
Post by: sjefen on January 10, 2010, 06:13:56 PM
Here's another version.
I found this cool script for GIMP that allows me to tone image's areas into two different colors. It's almost like a black & white image.

Regards,
Terje
Title: Re: Mount Suradri
Post by: Seth on January 10, 2010, 06:16:16 PM
lovely reflection !!!
Title: Re: Mount Suradri
Post by: Henry Blewer on January 10, 2010, 07:17:21 PM
I like the tone map version. You can also use Blender to do compositing and image manipulation.
Title: Re: Mount Suradri
Post by: sjefen on January 10, 2010, 07:38:09 PM
Thank you guys.

Quote from: njeneb on January 10, 2010, 07:17:21 PM
I like the tone map version. You can also use Blender to do compositing and image manipulation.
Blender is looking really interesting these days ;)
When I have the time I will test out Blender.

Regards,
Terje
Title: Re: Mount Suradri
Post by: Henry Blewer on January 10, 2010, 07:56:29 PM
I have been using it more and more for things other than 3D modeling.
Title: Re: Mount Suradri
Post by: MacGyver on January 11, 2010, 06:10:59 AM
Great update and nice b/w version! :)
No offense to anyone, I personally also liked the cloud over the central mountain ;)
Title: Re: Mount Suradri
Post by: EoinArmstrong on January 11, 2010, 06:22:47 AM
I prefer the newest render (the fully colour one).  The toned one is nice - poster art; but the colour one just brings out the wonderful subtleties in the lighting.
Title: Re: Mount Suradri
Post by: sjefen on February 20, 2010, 07:42:30 PM
I have updated the image a little and thought I might share it. I now consider it as finished and hope you like it.
You can find it here (http://img684.imageshack.us/i/mountsuradri01d.jpg/) at 5000 x 2179.

- Terje
Title: Re: Mount Suradri
Post by: Henry Blewer on February 20, 2010, 08:09:09 PM
Holy Huge Image Batman! This is well worth the render time.
Title: Re: Mount Suradri
Post by: sjefen on February 20, 2010, 09:13:02 PM
Thank you njeneb :)

- Terje
Title: Re: Mount Suradri
Post by: MacGyver on February 22, 2010, 02:46:05 PM
I agree, very nice as well as large.
On a personal note I miss the cloud in the center but I guess that's more than compensated by the overall quality of the image. :)