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Title: The Undiscovered Country - Oasis
Post by: Markal on January 12, 2010, 11:23:59 PM
Had to give cyphyr's world another go (The Undiscovered Country.TGD) ...I wanted a more lush, almost jungle feel but the hyper distorted terrain proved too hard to place objects...thus this...it does highlight the hanging ivy (www.terragen.org).  Would like to see others use this...I love lush jungle scenes and hope to do one soon....yeah...I'm throwing down the glove. How about a dense jungle scene....trees, water, hanging vines, plants galore...and maybe a lost civilization?.....I'm going to work on it :)
Thanks Mark
....O.K. I'm a little sensitive but very forgiving :)...critical comments are welcome.....but please understand...I already know this image isn't perfect and has many problems...I'm working on improving my technique! Suggestions, tips, shared files, future collaberations (contact me) are most welcome.....:)
Title: Re: The Undiscovered Country - Oasis
Post by: choronr on January 13, 2010, 12:47:34 AM
A grand creation by you Mark. My only thoughts are one word; more softness. I like the variation in the terrain - both its colors and strata.
Title: Re: The Undiscovered Country - Oasis
Post by: EoinArmstrong on January 13, 2010, 03:00:46 AM
Nice pov and great placement of objects - you could use this pov for your jungle scene quite easily - reduce your wave scale and add plants with a much smaller scale and presto!
Title: Re: The Undiscovered Country - Oasis
Post by: Seth on January 13, 2010, 03:12:55 AM
nice work but the strata are too sharps and you need to do something about the image map you used on it. maybe change the scale or the projection you used.
Title: Re: The Undiscovered Country - Oasis
Post by: schmeerlap on January 13, 2010, 05:56:22 AM
Quote from: Seth on January 13, 2010, 03:12:55 AM
nice work but the strata are too sharps and you need to do something about the image map you used on it. maybe change the scale or the projection you used.

Yeh, this is looking good. I like the placement of your trees and other foliage. You can get sharp-edged strata like this in nature, so Cypher's strata ain't too sharp for me. I might be wrong but I'm guessing you didn't use image mapping on the strata / cliff faces, and that their colouring is from the original power fractals in Cypher's tgd. I agree with Bob that smoother water would be better.

John
Title: Re: The Undiscovered Country - Oasis
Post by: Seth on January 13, 2010, 06:59:06 AM
oh ?
sorry for the image map if i'm wrong ^^
but it does look strange though, even if it's pf and not image map :)
i don't know if you can get this kind of sharp edge strata in nature (if you say so, i believe you) but they look very strange to me here.
maybe it is just a matter of taste.
Title: Re: The Undiscovered Country - Oasis
Post by: Tangled-Universe on January 13, 2010, 08:01:19 AM
It's probably because the coordinates are stretched because of the displacements, resulting in an unexpected way of coloring.
I think the strata look quite believable, though maybe indeed a tad bit too strong/sharp.
The suggestion about the water is a good one.

Cheers,
Martin
Title: Re: The Undiscovered Country - Oasis
Post by: Henry Blewer on January 13, 2010, 08:09:11 AM
I have seen sharp strata like this in quarries or where a ledge has fallen off the cliff face.
Title: Re: The Undiscovered Country - Oasis
Post by: cyphyr on January 13, 2010, 10:26:59 AM
Nice too see this one still inspiring and going off in new directions. :)
You can get strata that "crisp", as njeneb says in quarries and where the rock face has fallen away. It might work better if we could figure a way of doing highly angular rock and stones. A few piles of broken rock about the place, looking as if they fell from the cliff face might work.
To get the vegitation to sit better, use a small value in the Compute terrain node and plug the last shader in the shaders group into the "sit on terrain" input of  your objects.
Good work, better than the orig! :D]
Richard
Title: Re: The Undiscovered Country - Oasis
Post by: CCC on January 13, 2010, 08:30:08 PM
There are also other examples of sharp rock layers as seen here:

http://www.panoramio.com/photo/5504639

The layers pushed up at a steep angle.

Title: Re: The Undiscovered Country - Oasis
Post by: Seth on January 14, 2010, 06:36:46 AM
Quote from: CCC on January 13, 2010, 08:30:08 PM
There are also other examples of sharp rock layers as seen here:

http://www.panoramio.com/photo/5504639

The layers pushed up at a steep angle.



that doesn't look like those stratas at all ^^
Title: Re: The Undiscovered Country - Oasis
Post by: CCC on January 14, 2010, 06:54:39 AM
If the sharp strata from cyphyr was turned at a steeper angle, it reminded me of the photograph with the smaller terrain features going along the base terrain that are angled to be i'd say 80 degrees. It's along there side you can see the layers. It is kind of flaky or chiseled looking in some parts.
Title: Re: The Undiscovered Country - Oasis
Post by: Kadri on January 14, 2010, 07:26:54 AM
Quote from: Seth on January 14, 2010, 06:36:46 AM
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that doesn't look like those stratas at all ^^

Yes maybe , but interesting formation  :)

Kadri.