Hello everyone,
~~~Announcing the NWDA Global Clouds Preset Pack~~~
http://www.nwdanet.com/buy-packs/7-preset-packs/51-nvseal-global-clouds-pack.html (http://www.nwdanet.com/buy-packs/7-preset-packs/51-nvseal-global-clouds-pack.html)
(http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/011/6/f/Procedural_Cloud_Setup_v2___4_by_nvseal.jpg)
Includes two versions of global clouds:
1) One high fidelity version
2) One low fidelity version
Have fun out there.
nvseal
Wonderful news! I am glad you have finished this project. Which leads to the obvious, what's next?
Checked the price, pretty expensive. My estimate of the USD equivalent was $42! Can you release a single-layer free version?
Quote from: njeneb on January 16, 2010, 05:21:20 PM
Wonderful news! I am glad you have finished this project. Which leads to the obvious, what's next?
I don't quite know yet. I'm thinking of some smaller packs with some general clouds stuff or maybe something to do with procedural gas-giants which I have been running some test on.
Quote from: TheBlackHole on January 16, 2010, 11:25:28 PM
Checked the price, pretty expensive. My estimate of the USD equivalent was $42! Can you release a single-layer free version?
The USD equivalent is $30, the same as the planet pack. The pricing for both of my packs are based on several factors that I considered such as risks, demand, quality etc. There will not be a single-layer free version, though there is a single layer version included in the pack. That said, it would be a bit strange for me to release a free version (though less quality) to compete with my own product.
Think of it not as a free competing product but as a free trial with usage limitations such as you can't use it in renders larger than 800x600 or something.
Quote from: TheBlackHole on January 17, 2010, 01:05:28 AM
Think of it not as a free competing product but as a free trial with usage limitations such as you can't use it in renders larger than 800x600 or something.
I have no power to enforce any such limitation.
Why?
Hi,
Quote from: TheBlackHole on January 17, 2010, 01:39:47 AM
Why?
Because TG2 has no system which allows 3rd parties to apply restrictions like that.
Regards,
Jo
That came out real nice!! What was your render time on that bad boy?
Quote from: Mandrake on January 17, 2010, 08:10:34 AM
That came out real nice!! What was your render time on that bad boy?
Thanks. I don't remember the exact time but it was less than a day, around 18 hours or so.
Quote from: jo on January 17, 2010, 02:56:14 AM
Hi,
Quote from: TheBlackHole on January 17, 2010, 01:39:47 AM
Why?
Because TG2 has no system which allows 3rd parties to apply restrictions like that.
Regards,
Jo
I meant something like just SAYING you can't, not some kind of software restriction.
Quote from: TheBlackHole on January 17, 2010, 01:33:50 PM
I meant something like just SAYING you can't, not some kind of software restriction.
Well then we're back where we started, I can say anything I want but I still can't enforce it. This is starting to go off topic so as I said earlier, there will not be a free version.
Quote from: nvseal on January 17, 2010, 02:05:07 PM
Well then we're back where we started, I can say anything I want but I still can't enforce it. This is starting to go off topic so as I said earlier, there will not be a free version.
1. As Grand Moff Tarkin once said, "Fear will keep the local systems in line."
2. I downloaded a version of planetary clouds last night from File Sharing. I noticed while looking up the thread today that you took them down. ( http://forums.planetside.co.uk/index.php?topic=1511.0 ) Can I still use the ones you posted in 07 in File Sharing?
Quote from: TheBlackHole on January 17, 2010, 07:19:14 PM
Can I still use the ones you posted in 07 in File Sharing?
Of course.
nvseal, I'm planning to get this and the planet pack. My hope was that there might be a discount for someone buying both at the same time. Does this sound like a possibility?
I will plan to purchase these sometime in the beginning of February.
Woohoo!!
In terms of discounts... nvseal, I wondered whether you could sell the two different cloud views as two different products - say at $18 or 13 euros apiece, with the discount on both together at 20.99 euros as now. I think you might get more sales that way.
Really amazing, nvseal! Unfortunately, $152 is a bit steep for me for a commercial license. Fantastic work though.
This is really nice nvseal, the images look great! The price is a bit steep for me to purchase but congrats on a nice product.
Quote from: calico on January 19, 2010, 08:50:08 AM
nvseal, I'm planning to get this and the planet pack. My hope was that there might be a discount for someone buying both at the same time. Does this sound like a possibility?
I have thought about possible offers like this but at the moment the only one which I am thinking about seriously would be a discount for buying both for commercial purposes.
Quote from: domdib on January 19, 2010, 09:08:20 AM
In terms of discounts... nvseal, I wondered whether you could sell the two different cloud views as two different products - say at $18 or 13 euros apiece, with the discount on both together at 20.99 euros as now. I think you might get more sales that way.
Something like that might be possible but I am not sure if that is something I would want to do yet. For one thing, both versions of the clouds are not equally valuable (in my opinion). Most of the price of the pack comes from the high fidelity clouds. So while doing something along those lines may get more sales, the total return may, in fact, go down.
Quote from: trailgirl on January 19, 2010, 10:23:03 AM
Really amazing, nvseal! Unfortunately, $152 is a bit steep for me for a commercial license. Fantastic work though.
That is true but the commercial price is primarily targeted towards studios and institutions.
I knew from the get go that the price of both packs would probably be an issue for some people and, I will admit, it was a bit of an experiment on my part. As I have said before, the pricing on both was arrived at after consideration of several factors such as risks of abuse after being sold; the availability of a comparable product; prices of other digital products of similar purposes (for example, prices for Maya or 3Ds models); expected demand for such a product; what people may be willing to pay for it (keeping in mind that most NWDA sales are hobbyist); the small amount of sales history with NWDA (as it is still rather new); the amount of time I have spent learning and acquiring an intuition about the nodes and methods of controlling clouds/displacement distributions etc. Quite frankly, I think both of these are worth more than I am selling them for, but that is also because this is what I'm into ;D. I had to choose a price that I thought would be a middle ground between the most sales and a better return. I extrapolated various scenarios from NWDA sales data and decided that this price was the best. I don't want to blow my own horn so don't take this the wrong way but I have never seen a commercially available TG 2 global cloud setup of comparable quality – anywhere. Maybe there is, I don't know; I don't pretend to be aware of every Terragen image created around the world. But I decided that, taking all factors into consideration and from the perspective of a poor college student/hobbyist, $30 wasn't too bad for the only one of its kind.
If someone needed to use this for commercial purposes, the cost could be part of the fee for the commercial work. It could be a way to sort of get this for free.