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Title: Man in Vegetative State Uses MRI to Communicate
Post by: Kadri on February 06, 2010, 08:04:34 PM
This article affected me a lot !

http://www.tomsguide.com/us/MRI-NEJM-Vegetative-State-Conscious,news-5742.html

The original article is linked there .

Kadri.
Title: Re: Man in Vegetative State Uses MRI to Communicate
Post by: Henry Blewer on February 07, 2010, 08:47:13 AM
There was a spot on one of the USA morning news shows about this. A guy had been diagnosed as being in a coma since he could not respond. It turned out he was aware of everything going on.
Title: Re: Man in Vegetative State Uses MRI to Communicate
Post by: Kadri on February 07, 2010, 09:05:28 AM
It reminds me on horror stories where you know everything around you , but can not respond .
And i think about people who have loved ones who are in this position  :(

Kadri.
Title: Re: Man in Vegetative State Uses MRI to Communicate
Post by: matrix2003 on February 07, 2010, 09:27:36 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_%28Metallica_song%29
Title: Re: Man in Vegetative State Uses MRI to Communicate
Post by: Kadri on February 07, 2010, 09:38:58 AM
Quote from: matrix2003 on February 07, 2010, 09:27:36 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_%28Metallica_song%29

I know the song but didn't know what it is about  :(

Thanks , Matrix2003 .

Kadri.
Title: Re: Man in Vegetative State Uses MRI to Communicate
Post by: latego on February 08, 2010, 08:11:43 PM
I think that those results should be analyzed in the light of this http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/09/fmrisalmon/ (http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/09/fmrisalmon/) study.

Sadly, the study about vegetative state pat... let's call them in the correct way, unburied corpses, has the only effect of giving unfounded hopes to relatives and prolong their hellish experience.

In the last decades, medicine has started to become more and more not a solution, but a problem. Doctors enjoy (probably for economical reasons) to intensify and prolong all kind of treatments, without the slightest regard about the outcome. E.g. a couple of hours ago I read on a news site the story of a little girl "saved" from a tumor. The terapy side effects will prevent her to grow beyond 4 feet (1.2 meters) and she will experience learning disabilities and hearing defects. A subnormal deaf dwarf. According to which criteria you can call this result a success?

Bye.
Title: Re: Man in Vegetative State Uses MRI to Communicate
Post by: Kadri on February 08, 2010, 09:03:51 PM
Yes , there are many aspects .
Sometimes (maybe much more) science is trial and error .
The bad things who happen to some people can save other peoples life .
But the errors that are made here can make humans suffer .

It is easy to speak this in general but what would we do-think if it was one of our beloved ones ?
The Ethic side of this is really tough .

Cheers.

Kadri.