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Title: Heck,...
Post by: FrankB on February 07, 2010, 06:16:18 PM
...I'm opening a new thread for this. Who with his right mind would assume a new image on page 5 of an old thread (now that I can't hint you on this anymore, because I cannot modify the 1st post's title anymore).

Anyway, here's the latest version of my rock for surface preset. Personally, I like it much better than the previous versions.
3000px wide, crazy detail.

http://nwda.deviantart.com/art/Rock-wall-22b-153286594

Cheers,
Frank


Title: Re: Heck,...
Post by: domdib on February 07, 2010, 06:20:19 PM
Very hard to choose between this one and the last one - both are great - but I think this one just edges it.
Title: Re: Heck,...
Post by: Seth on February 07, 2010, 06:27:38 PM
very very realistic Frank !
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Post by: cyphyr on February 07, 2010, 06:40:35 PM
Better distribution all round :)
Richard
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Post by: Saurav on February 07, 2010, 07:56:56 PM
Frank I prefer this one over the other versions too, looks more natural to my eye.
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Post by: Gannaingh on February 08, 2010, 01:41:38 AM
Oh heck! Nice work Frank, I really like the prominence of the cracks in this latest one. Also there is just something about the background, unfortunately I can't put my finger on it, that I think makes the background more realistic than your previous iterations. Nice post!
Title: Re: Heck,...
Post by: Tangled-Universe on February 08, 2010, 03:44:51 AM
Cool work Frank :)
The cracks really add something, but perhaps they are a bit too strong and need a bit smoother appearance.
Else it is just damn fine work ;D

Cheers,
Martin

Quote from: FrankB on February 07, 2010, 06:16:18 PM
...I'm opening a new thread for this. Who with his right mind would assume a new image on page 5 of an old thread (now that I can't hint
you on this anymore, because I cannot modify the 1st post's title anymore).

I'm considering this too with my latest canyon work. This "solution" is a real pain in this regard. Interest drops quickly when people don't know there's something new to see. The result is a new topic, but not a really new image. Oh well.
Title: Re: Heck,...
Post by: FrankB on February 08, 2010, 04:54:58 AM
Thanks guys, much appreciated.
I'm happy with the distribution of everything now, which wasn't so well (at least to my taste) in the previous renders.
The cracks are a little accentuated, agree, maybe I'll tune down the default displacement for these a bit. It's a little bit up to the blending shaders as well. I shall see.
Cheers,
Frank
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Post by: Tangled-Universe on February 08, 2010, 05:52:53 AM
Yes the distribution improved indeed. I also like the somewhat smoother appearance of the main rocksurface now. If it wasn't smooth I'd find the cracks to be spot on. Glad you agree with that :)

Cheers,
Martin
Title: Re: Heck,...
Post by: Henry Blewer on February 08, 2010, 08:20:31 AM
I have been impressed with this entire exercise. The problem I have is taking it in as a whole. I need to see the full image and zoom in. I'll download it and look at in a paint program.

Big File! 1.6 MB
Title: Re: Heck,...
Post by: Henry Blewer on February 08, 2010, 08:24:59 AM
Wow! It's very difficult to tell this from a photo Frank. I have a question. I like the smooth edges at the top of the cliff faces. Can you tell us how this was done? It really helps give the image a better 'photo' look.
Title: Re: Heck,...
Post by: FrankB on February 08, 2010, 08:27:57 AM
yeah, sure: I have faded out the rock wall surface by an altitude constraint, so that it becomes null near the top of the canyon.
Also, "fractal detail" has been completely switched off in the heightfield shader (my rock wall is producing enough detail), which is why the terrain is really soft where no additional displacement is applied to.

Cheers,
Frank
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Post by: Henry Blewer on February 08, 2010, 08:34:20 AM
The fractal detail being switched off is a new one for me. I would never have thought of it. I had a feeling you used an altitude constraint. Thanks!
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Post by: FrankB on February 08, 2010, 08:57:52 AM
Quote from: darthvader1 on February 08, 2010, 01:41:38 AM
Oh heck! Nice work Frank, I really like the prominence of the cracks in this latest one. Also there is just something about the background, unfortunately I can't put my finger on it, that I think makes the background more realistic than your previous iterations. Nice post!

maybe that is because the sun is shining more from the side now, which also let's you see more of the background, as that detail is not lost in the haze glow anymore.
Cheers and thanks,
Frank
Title: Re: Heck,...
Post by: Henry Blewer on February 08, 2010, 11:39:22 AM
At least with a thread title like this, it will not be hard to find. :D

Turning off the fractal detail works well. Great tip!
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Post by: Oshyan on February 15, 2010, 03:17:43 AM
Wow, that's a big image! Beauty. Maybe the grass is a bit "too" green, but that's a minor quibble. Btw in regards to the title change, perhaps someone who had been following an interesting thread would see a new image post anyway... ;)

- Oshyan
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Post by: Henry Blewer on February 15, 2010, 08:01:23 AM
I downloaded the image. It was the only way to look at the entire thing. It is now one of the few images I use as backdrops which I did not do. I keep finding little bits of detail everytime it comes up.
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Post by: GioMez on February 15, 2010, 08:10:56 AM
Great work on surfacing!
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Post by: domdib on April 05, 2010, 05:10:56 PM
Hi Frank, I was just wondering what happened to this, as you seemed to be suggesting that it was going to be available as a preset. Did you change your mind? If so, that's a shame  :'(
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Post by: FrankB on April 06, 2010, 02:42:21 PM
Hi Dominic, I had to delay the development on this somewhat. It's not an easy to understand preset, although I have done my best to keep it modular and clean. I'm afraid I will have to write a realatively big tutorial about it and bundle with the preset. I will release it eventually, but I just can't find the time at the moment. Thanks for your continued interest in this :)

Frank
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Post by: domdib on April 06, 2010, 03:42:48 PM
Look forward to it!
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Post by: choronr on April 07, 2010, 10:53:13 PM
This looks good except I would like to see a variation of vegetation and their colors (shades of green). And, maybe a few plants separated from the groups.