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Title: Just out of curiosity...
Post by: kevnar on May 07, 2010, 09:36:02 PM
Part 1:

1. Start a new default project.
2. Add a fractal terrain and set the seed at 999.
3. Change nothing else.
4. Press F3 and then Alt+R.
5. Post your render time for a 640x480 pic at 0.5 detail.

Mine's 5:38

Part 2:

Without moving the camera or alterering the original fractal terrain seed, create something awesome with the default scene from part 1. Change or add any other settings you need to, but work with the original landscape and camera angle.

I'll be back later with my render.  :)
Title: Re: Just out of curiosity...
Post by: MGebhart on May 07, 2010, 10:16:37 PM
Part 1

4:35
Title: Re: Just out of curiosity...
Post by: neuspadrin on May 07, 2010, 10:20:43 PM
Power Fractal or Alpine?

Power - 0:34
Alpine - 1:18

Both have a pretty sweet viewpoint for making a scene I agree.
Title: Re: Just out of curiosity...
Post by: MGebhart on May 07, 2010, 10:22:54 PM
@neuspadrin,

I want your computer. ;-)
Title: Re: Just out of curiosity...
Post by: jaf on May 07, 2010, 10:24:14 PM
Well, I got 3:52.

Keep in mind that some of us may use a different default scene (I think it was FrankB that provided a nice default substitute.)
Title: Re: Just out of curiosity...
Post by: neuspadrin on May 07, 2010, 10:25:53 PM
Quote from: MGebhart on May 07, 2010, 10:22:54 PM
@neuspadrin,

I want your computer. ;-)

Hahaha, yeh I put just under $1000 in upgrades on it earlier this year.  i7 2.8 ghz, 8 gigs of GDDR3 1600, and a ATI Radeon 5850 (as I play games a lot).

The i7 has definitely made Terragen awesome :P
Title: Re: Just out of curiosity...
Post by: MGebhart on May 07, 2010, 10:40:00 PM
@jaf,

I just rendered with Frank's default. However, I think kevnar wanted the Default that ships with Terragen.

2:15 with Frank's
Title: Re: Just out of curiosity...
Post by: PabloMack on May 07, 2010, 11:12:50 PM
Power - 0:40
Alpine - 1:40

AMD Phenom II x4 955 3.2 GHz 8 GByte DDR3 1600- NVidia 9800 GT.  
Title: Re: Just out of curiosity...
Post by: leafspring on May 08, 2010, 09:17:27 AM
Default
Power: 0:31
Alpine: 1:19

Forced 8 hyper-threaded threads
Power: 0:27
Alpine: 0:59

But the system isn't fully OC'ed yet (got it yesterday^^) so I guess there is still some room for improvement.  ;D
Title: Re: Just out of curiosity...
Post by: domdib on May 08, 2010, 10:52:10 AM
It is quite a nice seed.

2.56 for me.
Title: Re: Just out of curiosity...
Post by: jo on May 08, 2010, 11:18:15 AM
Hi,

On the Mac with the power fractal terrain:

16 threads : 1:10
16 threads, default heightfield deleted (makes a big difference on the Mac) : 0:42

8 threads: 0:59
8 threads, default heightfield deleted : 0:31

Regards,

Jo
Title: Re: Just out of curiosity...
Post by: neuspadrin on May 08, 2010, 11:27:38 AM
Quote from: jo on May 08, 2010, 11:18:15 AM
16 threads : 1:10
16 threads, default heightfield deleted (makes a big difference on the Mac) : 0:42


Is that a mac only thing, or will deleting the default help always?  I just assumed an un-generated default wouldn't cause any issues.  I usually delete it anyways when working but probably good to know ;).
Title: Re: Just out of curiosity...
Post by: jaf on May 08, 2010, 11:29:37 AM
Quote from: MGebhart on May 07, 2010, 10:40:00 PM
@jaf,

I just rendered with Frank's default. However, I think kevnar wanted the Default that ships with Terragen.

2:15 with Frank's

Yes, they way I worded that was confusing and I knew which default we were supposed to use.  I was thinking some are using FrankB's default scene and forget it wasn't the original.  :)
Title: Re: Just out of curiosity...
Post by: mhaze on May 08, 2010, 12:29:54 PM
Old comp 51 secs

New computer 29secs

Mick
Title: Re: Just out of curiosity...
Post by: gregsandor on May 08, 2010, 01:26:46 PM

Quote
1. Start a new default project.
2. Add a fractal terrain and set the seed at 999.
3. Change nothing else.
4. Press F3 and then Alt+R.
5. Post your render time for a 640x480 pic at 0.5 detail.

Mine's 5:38

Not sure what you mean by "Add a fractal terrain" -- I just changed the seed in the default heightfield generator to 999, hit F3 and Alt r --

40 seconds.
Title: Re: Just out of curiosity...
Post by: neuspadrin on May 08, 2010, 01:38:11 PM
Quote from: gregsandor on May 08, 2010, 01:26:46 PM

Not sure what you mean by "Add a fractal terrain" -- I just changed the seed in the default heightfield generator to 999, hit F3 and Alt r --

40 seconds.

He meant the a power fractal I think.  Add Terrain --> Power Fractal.  It will cover the entire planet.
Title: Re: Just out of curiosity...
Post by: gregsandor on May 08, 2010, 01:40:55 PM
Ah, okay.  Rendering something else at the moment.  I'll try that when this finishes.
Title: Re: Just out of curiosity...
Post by: Klas on May 08, 2010, 02:05:43 PM
Part 1: 0:05:18
Title: Re: Just out of curiosity...
Post by: gregsandor on May 08, 2010, 02:36:46 PM
Upper is power -  50s.  Lower is alpine fractal -  2m33s.
Title: Re: Just out of curiosity...
Post by: kevnar on May 08, 2010, 02:41:32 PM
Part 2:
Title: Re: Just out of curiosity...
Post by: jaf on May 08, 2010, 02:49:15 PM
Quote from: gregsandor on May 08, 2010, 02:36:46 PM
Did you guys move the camera?  When I open TG, add power fractal terrain, hit F3 and alt-r, this is my result.

Will one of you attach a clip file of the camera you're using; mine seems to be different.

I got what Klas had.
Title: Re: Just out of curiosity...
Post by: jo on May 08, 2010, 07:06:11 PM
Hi neusapdrin,

Quote from: neuspadrin on May 08, 2010, 11:27:38 AM
Quote from: jo on May 08, 2010, 11:18:15 AM
16 threads : 1:10
16 threads, default heightfield deleted (makes a big difference on the Mac) : 0:42


Is that a mac only thing, or will deleting the default help always?  I just assumed an un-generated default wouldn't cause any issues.  I usually delete it anyways when working but probably good to know ;).

I'm not sure if it makes a difference on Windows. I'll try it soon, although it is an easy one to test yourself :-). I've only noticed what a difference it makes on the Mac recently. It will make a bigger difference the more threads you use, I think.

Regards,

Jo
Title: Re: Just out of curiosity...
Post by: leafspring on May 08, 2010, 07:28:16 PM
Just did a quick test regarding the default heightfield. When rendering  the 999 power fractal with 8 threads the results are about 2s apart (30s (w/ default heightfield) to 28s (without)). Using the Alpine fractal there is no reproducible difference.
Title: Re: Just out of curiosity...
Post by: airflamesred on May 08, 2010, 07:44:50 PM
An exasperating 4.15 on my laptop. My purchase of TG2 is gonna have to wait for a pc I'm afraid :(
Title: Re: Just out of curiosity...
Post by: dandelO on May 08, 2010, 08:34:23 PM
4:07 for me on 2 cores, pretty poor, need a decent new system(and money to buy one).
Removing the heightfield shader didn't have much effect on Windows Vista. It was a few seconds quicker but I think that's just a negligible difference.
Title: Re: Just out of curiosity...
Post by: Dune on May 09, 2010, 04:06:12 AM
1.32 on 2 cores
Title: Re: Just out of curiosity...
Post by: gregsandor on May 09, 2010, 05:24:32 AM
Can someone post their tgd for me to test?  I get different views than everyone else seems to have.
Title: Re: Just out of curiosity...
Post by: domdib on May 09, 2010, 05:28:36 AM
Here's mine. (p.s. - you need to reduce atmo samples to 16 - it was one of the first settings I tweaked for stage 2)
Title: Re: Just out of curiosity...
Post by: leafspring on May 09, 2010, 04:10:55 PM
A quick doodle for part 2 of this 'challange'  ;D
Title: Re: Just out of curiosity...
Post by: domdib on May 09, 2010, 05:32:49 PM
I'm doing something similar. Like the texturing on the foreground. The middle distance looks a bit "shiny".
Title: Re: Just out of curiosity...
Post by: Klas on May 09, 2010, 06:35:48 PM
Part2:
Title: Re: Just out of curiosity...
Post by: neuspadrin on May 09, 2010, 07:15:58 PM
Awesome render there Klas ;)
Title: Re: Just out of curiosity...
Post by: domdib on May 10, 2010, 04:33:54 AM
Great lighting! And that's quite a cool dragon model.