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Title: New clue to anti-matter mystery
Post by: Kadri on May 20, 2010, 06:22:04 PM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science_and_environment/10124360.stm

Not much here. Do you have a link for better explanations ?
Title: Re: New clue to anti-matter mystery
Post by: Tangled-Universe on May 21, 2010, 03:14:50 AM
I think not.
This is really a typical article published because the Americans at FermiLab want to show that they're still "alive" under the growing shadow of the European LHC.
So from time to time they publish these "great findings".
Once the LHC is in full operation they will become pretty obsolete, roughly put.
Eventually they will build an even bigger/more sophisticated collider in the USA and then the Europeans will do so, and on and on...
The competition in science is greater than one might expect.
I interpret these kind of low-news articles as a "proof of life" for Fermilab.
Title: Re: New clue to anti-matter mystery
Post by: Kadri on May 21, 2010, 05:36:06 AM
Quote from: Tangled-Universe on May 21, 2010, 03:14:50 AM
I think not.
This is really a typical article published because the Americans at FermiLab want to show that they're still "alive" under the growing shadow of the European LHC.
So from time to time they publish these "great findings".
Once the LHC is in full operation they will become pretty obsolete, roughly put.
Eventually they will build an even bigger/more sophisticated collider in the USA and then the Europeans will do so, and on and on...
The competition in science is greater than one might expect.
I interpret these kind of low-news articles as a "proof of life" for Fermilab.

LOL ;D
Title: Re: New clue to anti-matter mystery
Post by: PabloMack on May 21, 2010, 02:31:46 PM
Quote from: Tangled-Universe on May 21, 2010, 03:14:50 AM
Eventually they will build an even bigger/more sophisticated collider in the USA and then the Europeans will do so, and on and on...

The Supercollider in Waxahachie TX would have trumped the LHC as the most powerful in the world.  Looks like that race may
never happen seeing that the SSC was cancelled way back in 1993 and the LHC wasn't even approved until two years later.  I
guess only time will tell if the Americans regret their decision. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superconducting_Super_Collider
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large_Hadron_Collider
Title: Re: New clue to anti-matter mystery
Post by: Kadri on June 15, 2010, 02:58:04 PM

"US experiment hints at 'multiple God particles'"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science_and_environment/10313875.stm
Title: Re: New clue to anti-matter mystery
Post by: PG on June 15, 2010, 03:32:11 PM
Yeah I found this article quite funny, because CERN always said in press releases that the Higgs Boson wasn't the only one they were looking for. Several extensions to the standard theory predicy multiple undiscovered particles. But I suppose 5 particles wouldn't be very godlike, therefore not a good soundbite.
Title: Re: New clue to anti-matter mystery
Post by: Kadri on June 15, 2010, 03:37:54 PM
Quote from: PG on June 15, 2010, 03:32:11 PM
Yeah I found this article quite funny, because CERN always said in press releases that the Higgs Boson wasn't the only one they were looking for. Several extensions to the standard theory predicy multiple undiscovered particles. But I suppose 5 particles wouldn't be very godlike, therefore not a good soundbite.

Therefore i thought there is no need for a new topic  :)
Title: Re: New clue to anti-matter mystery
Post by: latego on June 16, 2010, 03:35:24 AM
The Fermilab/SLAC page http://www.symmetrymagazine.org/breaking/2010/06/04/could-dzero-result-point-to-multiple-higgses/ (http://www.symmetrymagazine.org/breaking/2010/06/04/could-dzero-result-point-to-multiple-higgses/) and the arXvi paper http://arxiv.org/abs/1005.4238 (http://arxiv.org/abs/1005.4238).
Title: Re: New clue to anti-matter mystery
Post by: Kadri on June 16, 2010, 05:36:31 AM
Quote from: latego on June 16, 2010, 03:35:24 AM
The Fermilab/SLAC page http://www.symmetrymagazine.org/breaking/2010/06/04/could-dzero-result-point-to-multiple-higgses/ (http://www.symmetrymagazine.org/breaking/2010/06/04/could-dzero-result-point-to-multiple-higgses/) and the arXvi paper http://arxiv.org/abs/1005.4238 (http://arxiv.org/abs/1005.4238).

Thanks , Latego  :)
Title: Re: New clue to anti-matter mystery
Post by: Kadri on June 16, 2010, 05:42:12 AM
As i  read the http://arxiv.org/abs/1005.4238  link i couldn't prevent me to imagine the words spoken from someone from Star Trek or so .
Spock would be a good candidate ! LOL  ;D
Title: Re: New clue to anti-matter mystery
Post by: piggy on June 16, 2010, 07:10:06 AM
Quote from: PabloMack on May 21, 2010, 02:31:46 PM
Quote from: Tangled-Universe on May 21, 2010, 03:14:50 AMEventually they will build an even bigger/more sophisticated collider in the USA and then the Europeans will do so, and on and on...

The Supercollider in Waxahachie TX would have trumped the LHC as the most powerful in the world.  Looks like that race may
never happen seeing that the SSC was cancelled way back in 1993 and the LHC wasn't even approved until two years later.  I
guess only time will tell if the Americans regret their decision. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superconducting_Super_Collider
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large_Hadron_Collider
I was working in Dallas at that time and we were all totally excited about the super-conductor-super-collider project and then the congress decided to spend the money elsewhere.

I still remember someone saying something like spending on the SSC was a waste, and spending on the other projects would get a better return.

Well? 17 years later, what those "other" projects have gotten us? Nothing.

At least a SSC may have gotten human civilization that much closer to the truth.