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Title: Fun with 3D Fractals
Post by: jaf on August 17, 2011, 09:30:45 PM
This is a pretty good free 3D Fractal program -- I've been playing with it for a while and it's still in development.

   http://sites.google.com/site/mandelbulber/home

Take a look at the "Images and Animations", especially the last three animations in full screen.

Here is my first image (the mushrooms and frame were a Photoshop addition.)
Title: Re: Fun with 3D Fractals
Post by: Henry Blewer on August 17, 2011, 09:46:29 PM
Last time I downloaded this there was a trojan attached. It's intriguing though. Just downloaded it and will try it out if AVG says okay.
Title: Re: Fun with 3D Fractals
Post by: jaf on August 17, 2011, 09:48:14 PM
It should be okay and it has an installer and 64bit version now.  I use avast! and didn't have any problems.
Title: Re: Fun with 3D Fractals
Post by: inkydigit on August 18, 2011, 06:26:54 AM
looks cool, love the mushies!
pity it does not run on the mac... :(
Title: Re: Fun with 3D Fractals
Post by: Henry Blewer on August 18, 2011, 12:06:10 PM
I did a render last night. I like this better than Incendia. I'll be posting it to my Flickr page later.
Title: Re: Fun with 3D Fractals
Post by: N810 on August 18, 2011, 01:09:40 PM
I have actualy looked for program like this quite a few times, I'm glad somebody finaly develouped one.  ;D
Title: Re: Fun with 3D Fractals
Post by: Kadri on August 18, 2011, 01:22:58 PM

Thanks , Jaf!
How are the render times?
Title: Re: Fun with 3D Fractals
Post by: Henry Blewer on August 18, 2011, 01:57:24 PM
I find the render times to be good. png does not save properly. I think jpeg is the best option.
Title: Re: Fun with 3D Fractals
Post by: matrix2003 on August 18, 2011, 06:41:19 PM
Follow the link Inky. It lists a mac version on the download page. It says Windows and Linux, but if you click through the first file listed is: mandelbulber-mac-1.07.zip.  - Bill .
Title: Re: Fun with 3D Fractals
Post by: jaf on August 18, 2011, 09:28:47 PM
Quote from: Kadri on August 18, 2011, 01:22:58 PM

Thanks , Jaf!
How are the render times?

It's really not too bad (compared with our Terragen2 renders!)  I found that turning off the "Screen space ambient occlusion" [edit -- it's in the Post effects tab] until the final render will help.  Also, you may wish to change the default horizontal and/or vertical lighting (relative to camera) to see more detail (again, until you start final rendering with shadows.)

I'm not affiliated in any way with this program -- just found it one day searching for fractal software.  I was a big fan of Fractint way back in the mid 90's when it was a DOS command line program.  :o
Title: Re: Fun with 3D Fractals
Post by: Kadri on August 19, 2011, 02:04:44 AM

Thanks Jaf and Njeneb !
Title: Re: Fun with 3D Fractals
Post by: N810 on August 20, 2011, 10:50:33 AM
(http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l198/nbundick/art/Ruins-1.jpg)
I'm rather proud of this one.  :D
Title: Re: Fun with 3D Fractals
Post by: Henry Blewer on August 20, 2011, 07:22:51 PM
One the fractals tab. If you click on the HQ button, the program will calculate the best DE. The more zeros behind the decimal point the longer the render.
I have found that a 20hr render still has very good quality but render faster by increasing the DE. Usually an hour render will look the same as a fifteen hour render.
Title: Re: Fun with 3D Fractals
Post by: jaf on September 01, 2011, 10:45:36 PM
I see there's a new update at the Mandelbulber site: http://sites.google.com/site/mandelbulber/
Some interesting changes and additions.
Title: Re: Fun with 3D Fractals
Post by: N810 on September 02, 2011, 09:05:47 AM
Ok appearently I am missing somethning obvious,
as I am not seeing any new stuff.  ???
Title: Re: Fun with 3D Fractals
Post by: Henry Blewer on September 02, 2011, 04:50:46 PM
The interface has been altered quite a bit. Also the image quality is better. His jpeg exporter is still a bit odd. I have to run them through Corel Paint to get Windows to recognize them.
Title: Re: Fun with 3D Fractals
Post by: jaf on September 02, 2011, 09:26:23 PM
Quote from: N810 on September 02, 2011, 09:05:47 AM
Ok appearently I am missing somethning obvious,
as I am not seeing any new stuff.  ???

I may have missed it on the last version, but this one has some primitives and planes (water.)  I noticed the tabs have changed some -- can't remember if "Engine" was separate before or not.

I'm still pretty new using this software, so I don't have a good "feeling" about what's new or not.
Title: Re: Fun with 3D Fractals
Post by: inkydigit on September 28, 2011, 04:24:28 PM
some of my recent excursions with mandelbulber on my mac:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-5d0a17AF99M/ToN-4sW2C-I/AAAAAAAAAD0/kQLXss4m9yo/s912/mb_test_1_003a.jpg (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-5d0a17AF99M/ToN-4sW2C-I/AAAAAAAAAD0/kQLXss4m9yo/s912/mb_test_1_003a.jpg)

more here:

https://plus.google.com/photos/101276318140193603523/albums/5657505062622364913?hl=en (https://plus.google.com/photos/101276318140193603523/albums/5657505062622364913?hl=en)

hours of fun...

:)
Title: Re: Fun with 3D Fractals
Post by: jaf on September 28, 2011, 08:52:44 PM
Nice!  Is that first image a "war wagon" assembly line?  :D
Title: Re: Fun with 3D Fractals
Post by: j meyer on September 29, 2011, 10:45:08 AM
Nice indeed. 8)
How about the render times?
Title: Re: Fun with 3D Fractals
Post by: inkydigit on September 29, 2011, 11:32:04 AM
cheers...pretty quick for these ones...from 5 mins upto half an hour maybe?
fairly new at this prog so still learning...I have hit render and the timer is off the scale(like several days at least)!!!just hit stop and undo.... :D
so I know not to change that (last) parameter too much!!
Title: Re: Fun with 3D Fractals
Post by: Zairyn Arsyn on September 29, 2011, 02:32:10 PM
for me normal renders with mandelbulber were pretty quick on my new system, gotta use that program more...
Title: Re: Fun with 3D Fractals
Post by: Zairyn Arsyn on February 28, 2012, 11:22:53 AM
just started using Mandelbulb again

2048x2048px

http://www.deviantart.com/download/287654839/bonescape_by__zagadka_-d4r9fw7.jpg

i plan on doing a lot more of these.
Title: Re: Fun with 3D Fractals
Post by: N810 on February 28, 2012, 11:49:52 AM
Kinda reminds me of barnicles...  ;)
Title: Re: Fun with 3D Fractals
Post by: Zairyn Arsyn on February 29, 2012, 10:01:29 AM
upgraded Mandelbulber 3D & also started using Mandelbulb 3D, at first i though they were the same programs due to some confusion on the fractal forums 

high resolution render with Mandelbulb 3D-

http://-zagadka-.deviantart.com/art/gateway-upper-atmospheric-spaceport-287818599
Title: Re: Fun with 3D Fractals
Post by: jaf on February 29, 2012, 10:26:49 AM
Yes, very confusing!

Also, if you want to find out which version of Mandelbulb 3D (not Mandelbulber) you need to click on the "Internal" tab, just below "Stereo".

Then there's Incendia EX IV.
Title: Re: Fun with 3D Fractals
Post by: TheBadger on February 29, 2012, 11:39:03 AM
Quote from: zaai-three-nine on February 29, 2012, 10:01:29 AM
upgraded Mandelbulber 3D & also started using Mandelbulb 3D, at first i though they were the same programs due to some confusion on the fractal forums 

high resolution render with Mandelbulb 3D-

http://-zagadka-.deviantart.com/art/gateway-upper-atmospheric-spaceport-287818599

Wow! :o Its Cybertron

Which program is better in your view?
Title: Re: Fun with 3D Fractals
Post by: Kadri on February 29, 2012, 12:27:11 PM
Quote from: zaai-three-nine on February 29, 2012, 10:01:29 AM
upgraded Mandelbulber 3D & also started using Mandelbulb 3D, at first i though they were the same programs due to some confusion on the fractal forums 
high resolution render with Mandelbulb 3D-
http://-zagadka-.deviantart.com/art/gateway-upper-atmospheric-spaceport-287818599

Nice image  :)
Title: Re: Fun with 3D Fractals
Post by: Zairyn Arsyn on February 29, 2012, 03:59:33 PM
Mandelbulb 3D seems better imo, but i was used to Mandelbulbers tweaking tools, and i liked the renders i created with it, so i feel strange / nostalgic when using mandelbulb 3D.

-mandelbulb 3D has a useful realtime 3d navigation window which quite helpful
-you can combine multiple formulas in mandelbulb 3D
-animation seems easier
-seems a little faster at rendering too
Title: Re: Fun with 3D Fractals
Post by: Zairyn Arsyn on February 29, 2012, 04:25:51 PM
the only thing mandelbulb 3D lacks in a 64bit version, though i haven't ran into any memory issues yet though.
Title: Re: Fun with 3D Fractals
Post by: Henry Blewer on February 29, 2012, 10:48:59 PM
Go to the Sourceforge Mandelbulb page. There is a 64 bit version with Windows Installer there.
Title: Re: Fun with 3D Fractals
Post by: Zairyn Arsyn on March 01, 2012, 08:44:50 AM
thanks henry, i will look for that
Quote from: njeneb on February 29, 2012, 10:48:59 PM
Go to the Sourceforge Mandelbulb page. There is a 64 bit version with Windows Installer there.

i decided to do an animation with Mandelbulb 3D, should be ready later this afternoon.
Title: Re: Fun with 3D Fractals
Post by: Zairyn Arsyn on March 01, 2012, 09:08:01 AM
henry: were you thinking of Mandelbulber? i already have the 64bit version of Mandelbulber
i couldnt find Mandelbulber 3D on sourceforge or a 64bit version.

the only place i have found Mandelbulb 3D was on the fractal forums.
Title: Re: Fun with 3D Fractals
Post by: inkydigit on March 01, 2012, 09:47:18 AM
2 different apps...Mandelbulb 3d, and Mandelbulber (http://www.mandelbulber.com/)
:)
Title: Re: Fun with 3D Fractals
Post by: Henry Blewer on March 01, 2012, 10:48:47 AM
When I download Mandelbulb 3d, I get a dialer.
Title: Re: Fun with 3D Fractals
Post by: Zairyn Arsyn on March 01, 2012, 01:17:21 PM
dialer?

what was the url you got the download from?
Quote from: njeneb on March 01, 2012, 10:48:47 AM
When I download Mandelbulb 3d, I get a dialer.
Title: Re: Fun with 3D Fractals
Post by: inkydigit on March 01, 2012, 03:19:13 PM
sure this has been posted before:
http://mandelwerk.com/ (http://mandelwerk.com/)
3.3 gigapixel mandelbulb!!!!!!