Here's my first version for 4x4 NWDA promo
Used objects:
NWDA HQ pines 10, 18, 21, 22
Walli's dry bush (used to fake heather and lingonberry undergrowth commonly found in pine forests)
Walli's dry grass
(http://www.melnworld.com/tg2/pine%20forest.jpg)
(post work: auto levels with XnView)
C&C welcome
This is already looking very good!
If I may make a few suggestions, then I'd advise you to not use any auto-levelling of the render, but instead try this yourself. For example the shadows deeper in the woods are a strange tone of blue now, and some areas turn out darker than they have to :)
Secondly turn on soft shadows, this will provide your result with a whole new degree of quality. I think the render would also benefits from a little deaturation, but that relates more to my first suggestion.
Do you have any more plans for the ground cover / stones / rock / other objects etc... in the foreground and midground?
Cheers and looking forward to further versions!
Frank
What would be nice in this image is if you make the field of view larger (wide angle) and point the camera down more, so you have more water and the reflections of the trees in it. Then indeed one or two moss grown rocks in the shallow water...
I like the undergrowth very much.
Thanks for the comments and suggestions!
Frank: Yes that auto levelling didn't work out everywhere, so next versions are pure TG2 :) Foreground was still quite unfinished in the first version and I will continue working on it. The second version has Marc Gebharts dead conifer and some Walli's fresh grass added to the lake shore.
Dune: I'll try that on next one.
Here's version number 2 (with soft shadows):
(http://www.melnworld.com/tg2/pine%20forest2.jpg)
I think the blue shadow in the trees may come from your haze color in the atmosphere. The color saturation may be set too high.
Very good looking renders. I like the way you have used Marc's dead conifer. It's one of the ways I have thought to use it also.
This is going to be a great render, one you'll be proud of when finished.
The undergrowth is excellent! And the grasses at the shoreline are a perfect fit!
Maybe some interesting, hand-placed group of rocks somewhere in addition could be a good idea!
Now, from a lighting perspective you image needs 2 things: more exposure, and less saturation in the atmosphere. Try setting the color of the background object anywhere between 0.25 and 0.5, which will not only give the atmosphere a less saturated look, but also help with global illumination. Really, :-) give it a try!
Cheers,
Frank
looking real nice Mor!....and thanks for the tip frank, gonna check that out!
cheers
J
Thank goodness for the great suggestions and ideas our group here presents; sure helps us to get better by learning.
You've got a beauty going here; keep on till you feel good about what you've done.
Thanks a lot for your great suggestions and comments. Here's a quick update with some stones to fill the "empty spot". Also increased background node color to .25. and added some more exposure. Are the stones too unnoticeable? Should they be larger?
(http://www.melnworld.com/tg2/pine%20forest3.jpg)
(No postwork 1200x675 Quality .6 AA 3)
This is very good. The addition of the stones are looking natural; and, are a perfect size for this scene.
Looking very good now :)
I'd love to see this a lot larger to be honest.
Have you raytraced the atmosphere? If not you should, this will help clear the remaining noise of the atmosphere under the trees.
Stones are good, but I wouldn't mind seeing some more of those.
Cheers,
Frank
Raytracing the atmosphere would be a good thing. Also more of those great looking stones. Nice work!
RT atmo is on. I think the noise is caused by slight jpg packing. I will render final version a lot bigger. Here's one version with more stones:
(http://www.melnworld.com/tg2/pine%20forest3%20more%20stones.jpg)
And one with even more stones:
(http://www.melnworld.com/tg2/pine%20forest3%20even%20more%20stones.jpg)
Now that is becoming photo realism. Like the additional stones/rocks. Very good work.
Great work. I can find very little that I would change. The thing I would try is different sun angles and clouds, but that would not make this better, just different.
Replaced the latest version with 1920x1080 and higher quality version.
Very good! You've really done a good job putting the HD Pines into some great looking, serene scenery. I think I would have adjusted sharpness and saturation and exposure just a bit each.
If you don't mind, I've tried it already to show what I mean: https://img.skitch.com/20110902-gcu1dymwf7ty65ast4t3hibdse.jpg
Cheers,
Frank
Quote from: FrankB on September 02, 2011, 08:52:55 AM
Very good! You've really done a good job putting the HD Pines into some great looking, serene scenery. I think I would have adjusted sharpness and saturation and exposure just a bit each.
If you don't mind, I've tried it already to show what I mean: https://img.skitch.com/20110902-gcu1dymwf7ty65ast4t3hibdse.jpg
Cheers,
Frank
Looks good. Feel free to adjust it as much as you wish, I'm so beginner at postwork :D Should I render it even bigger?
Quote from: Mor on September 02, 2011, 09:15:25 AM
Should I render it even bigger?
As you wish :)
But it's already great at that size!
btw: check your pm, please
Cheers,
Frank
Great piece!! :)
Thanks!
I made one more version with more water shown.
http://www.melnworld.com/tg2/pine%20forest%20wide.jpg
(2600x1083)
As an image i am not very keen on this...
But...it looks very natural and i would be proud if i did made this , Mor ;)
Especially the last one!
Quote from: Mor on September 03, 2011, 10:13:50 AM
Thanks!
I made one more version with more water shown.
http://www.melnworld.com/tg2/pine%20forest%20wide.jpg
(2600x1083)
oh, this one is awesome !!!
Indeed, that's what I meant with more water. The narrow line of water bothered me in the first images. I like it very much. But what is the dark thing in the water, an exploded stone? And the bluish haze between the trees is a bit too bluish I'd say. You did a great job with the water line, and the subtle vegetation between the trees. This inspires me to do a lakeside view as well...
Quote from: Dune on September 04, 2011, 04:00:05 AM
Indeed, that's what I meant with more water. The narrow line of water bothered me in the first images. I like it very much. But what is the dark thing in the water, an exploded stone? And the bluish haze between the trees is a bit too bluish I'd say. You did a great job with the water line, and the subtle vegetation between the trees. This inspires me to do a lakeside view as well...
Yes, you were right about the water. The dark thing is edge of stone, but it could be part of fallen tree for example :D The bluish haze bothered me too, but I didn't get rid of it.
The last two are working really well!
Quote from: Mor on September 03, 2011, 10:13:50 AM
Thanks!
I made one more version with more water shown.
http://www.melnworld.com/tg2/pine%20forest%20wide.jpg
(2600x1083)
:o :o
very very nice!
Very nice looking render ;)
I would like to see this one at dusk and with a little mist.
Regards,
Terje
tree on ground will have more broken limbs point up and some point sides, not so many long ones and needs broken pieces to be near on ground where they fall.