http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/technology/technology.html?in_article_id=450467&in_page_id=1965
Yeah, I saw that. I think it's interesting, but it's too bad we don't have a hyperdrive, wormhole drive, or FTL drive (why so many "drive"s? why not a "walk"?) so I doubt we'll be seeing how liveable it is anytime soon.
There are some new telescopes being worked on that are supposed to be capable of analyzing a planet to determine on wither it has a atmosphere capable of sustaining life and also read what type of chemical makeup the planet is made up of.
Yap, it was in the newspapers and on TV the whole day. @Old_blaggard: Well, we didn't think that we ever have such gear in which Kirk was always speaking "Scott me up Beamy!" and look what we have now: Mobile phones! Whooohaaa! Just wait another century and you are there! ;-))) (Assuming that cryogenic becomes more efficient.)
Terrific. I wonder how long it'll take us to trash that one.
::)
I think that before mankind sets forth for other worlds beyond our solar system (The Terra System for all Scifi fans out there) we need to learn how to take care of Earth first and live here responsibly before even thinking about going else where, also it is important that Mankind learns how to get along with his fellow man in a manner consistent with a space fairing race, thats what I think any way.
It doesn't necessarily follow that life requires water else where in the Universe, Earth is the only model that science has for life and so assumes that the Earth model is the same every where in the universe, how can this be?
According to classical planetary creation theory which one assumes these people are using the Earth model can only be true every where in the universe if these Earth like planets formed in exactly the same way the earth did, that is to say that its planetary disk form which it formed spun the same way, attracted more or less the same mass of material as Earth etc.
This model would also assume that these Earth like planets formed at roughly the same time as Earth did about 4.6 Billion years ago and have had similar geological processes as Earth.
As to the existence of life on these Extra-Solar Earths (ESE's) this can be done by looking for a Methane spike by analysing the light form the atmosphere of that planet using the method of Inferred Spectroscopy, Methane can be present without life but it is normally found as a biological byproduct.
Regards to you.
Cyber-Angel
With 5 times the mass of earth (and gravity), it would not be possible for us to live there - weighing almost half a ton ...
Helen
think that before mankind sets forth for other worlds beyond our solar system (The Terra System for all Scifi fans out there) we need to learn how to take care of Earth first and live here responsibly before even thinking about going else where, also it is important that Mankind learns how to get along with his fellow man in a manner consistent with a space fairing race, thats what I think any way.
Agreed.
monks
Agreed.
Quote from: monks on April 27, 2007, 04:46:48 AM
think that before mankind sets forth for other worlds beyond our solar system (The Terra System for all Scifi fans out there) we need to learn how to take care of Earth first and live here responsibly before even thinking about going else where, also it is important that Mankind learns how to get along with his fellow man in a manner consistent with a space fairing race, thats what I think any way.
Agreed.
monks
It is a nice thought but i have little hope in man. We never learn from history and never seem to come to any agreements on anything. Just look at the 20th century, the most violent century in all of human history. If we are still around by the time we set foot on another earth-like planet we will probably trash that one to. It's just in our fallible human nature to do so. We are so far from perfect.
Sethren, perhaps what we learn here will lead us out there some day.
That brings up an interesting question (to me, anyway) - The universe is so vast. Is it possible that as impossible as it seems humans haven't seen everything yet?
yea humanity needs to become aware of our faults and work around them, this will either take an extraordinary leader or a major disaster the only question is which will come first.
Regards,
Will
Quote from: calico on May 12, 2007, 01:01:17 PM
Sethren, perhaps what we learn here will lead us out there some day.
That brings up an interesting question (to me, anyway) - The universe is so vast. Is it possible that as impossible as it seems humans haven't seen everything yet?
Perhaps! I do believe we will get there but our fallible nature will be along for the ride. ;D
I think we have only touched a tiny fraction of the universe. We are dealing with things that are beyond our understanding most of the time and there will always be something new to discover and learn. What makes the universe a fun place is that we will never run out of things to do nor run out of knowledge to learn.
But we are running out of time.
Regards,
Will
And to think there are dimensions (infinite?) in the spectrum of the universe...
Quote from: Sethren on May 12, 2007, 04:34:06 PM
Perhaps! I do believe we will get there but our fallible nature will be along for the ride. ;D
I think we have only touched a tiny fraction of the universe. We are dealing with things that are beyond our understanding most of the time and there will always be something new to discover and learn. What makes the universe a fun place is that we will never run out of things to do nor run out of knowledge to learn.
So the jist of it is that a bunch of bipedal apes art ever going to know close to anything about the universe and thats fine in my book. The less we know about whats out there the less we will likely screw it up.
Regards,
Will
The fact is that the lessons of history are there to be learned but weather mankind will listen to what they have to say is another matter entirely. It is said that "Those how do not learn form their mistakes are doomed to repeat them" and yet here we are repeating the same mistakes our forebears did.
The names, places, dates and so forth change throughout history but by and large the root causes remain the same, in the last 6,000 years there have been many significant advances made, the change form hunter/ gathering to settled farming and the formation of the first communities, moving for stone tools to bronze and much latter iron.
Other significant achievements are the formation of the first City States with the first organizational structures, the invention of the first laws, as well as writing, mathematics, agriculture, philosophy and astronomy and yes the invention of the first monetary systems.
Change is difficult to accept for many people for example you can fight a war like say the 100 years war (1337 to 1453 AD) that people know there is a war to fight but can not remember why it started in the first place and history is replete with other examples but time moves on and change must be made, for the equation is vary simple Adapt or Die.
Regards to you.
Cyber-Angel
Its like a game of SIM ANT just bigger and with much more at stake.
Maybe not infinite dimensions, but this makes sense to me:
http://tenthdimension.com/
It's worth a watch ;).
Nice find mate. the period at the end of that sentance holds all the possiblitys of anouther universe look at it in aw!
Regards,
Will