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Title: Dutch winter sunrise
Post by: Tangled-Universe on December 14, 2012, 02:26:20 PM
[attachimg=2]The supernice poplar on the right is from Silva3D:
http://www.silva3d.com/product.php?id_product=74

Sky is from NWDA.

Ice shader is an old one I used before:
http://www.planetside.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=11280.msg115611#msg115611

Hope you like it and thanks for taking a look :)

Cheers,
Martin
Title: Re: Dutch winter sunrise
Post by: FrankB on December 14, 2012, 02:32:48 PM
beautiful!

... and waayyy too small! ;-)
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Post by: cyphyr on December 14, 2012, 02:36:10 PM
Brrrrrrr, chilly very atmospheric.
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Post by: Kadri on December 14, 2012, 03:58:12 PM

Nice :)
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Post by: DannyG on December 14, 2012, 04:18:50 PM
Frosty mood
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Post by: Henry Blewer on December 14, 2012, 05:30:14 PM
It has the Dutch landscape artists look. Very good work.
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Post by: TheBadger on December 14, 2012, 05:40:41 PM
Its perfect.

Put it on the photo sharing sites and see how none of the photographers can tell is 3D.
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Post by: matrix2003 on December 14, 2012, 05:52:13 PM
Like Henry pointed out. Could be a painting or a photo.  8)
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Post by: masonspappy on December 14, 2012, 06:01:38 PM
That is top shelf!!
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Post by: zaxxon on December 14, 2012, 07:48:07 PM
A really fine piece! The furrowed ground to the left, the icy water in the ditch, the trees, the bloated sun... it all works so well!
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Post by: 4nt on December 15, 2012, 04:12:41 AM
looks great, well done  :)

cheers
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Post by: Lady of the Lake on December 15, 2012, 11:53:27 AM
Outstanding image.
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Post by: mhaze on December 15, 2012, 12:54:42 PM
Great atmosphere! a very convincing image.
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Post by: efflux on December 15, 2012, 05:03:03 PM
Cool overall but I think the best thing in this is the trees. They look very realistic.
Title: Re: Dutch winter sunrise
Post by: Dune on December 16, 2012, 03:40:48 AM
Nice one, Martin. Especially the slight blurring of the trees gives it a photographic allure, like the photographer was shivering, but had to take this magnificent shot.
Title: Re: Dutch winter sunrise
Post by: Tangled-Universe on December 16, 2012, 07:10:42 AM
Thanks a lot guys! :)
An improved version is on its way though!
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Post by: inkydigit on December 16, 2012, 04:21:55 PM
Beautiful, Martin!
Title: Re: Dutch winter sunrise
Post by: Tangled-Universe on December 19, 2012, 09:53:02 AM
Thanks Jason :)

Here's the final!

I added volumetric snow on various models using Particle Flow in 3D Max.
For the people who have 3D Max; this is a very easy procedure :)
If I can do it, anyone can do it ;)

Thanks for stopping by, I hope you like the effect!

Cheers,
Martin
Title: Re: Dutch winter sunrise
Post by: Kadri on December 19, 2012, 10:22:28 AM

Great image Martin!
I like the snow on the objects.
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Post by: Dune on December 19, 2012, 12:08:20 PM
Wow, this is super. And very Dutch. I like the particles of snow, wish I had 3Dmax. Very nice touch. It'll do nice on a magazine's cover  ;)
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Post by: yossam on December 19, 2012, 01:32:18 PM
Gone to my favorites  ;D
Title: Re: Dutch winter sunrise
Post by: masonspappy on December 19, 2012, 06:53:47 PM
Hey T-U,   would it be okay for me to use this as the background on my laptop? Or is there some sort of restriction involved (that's fine if there is, just thought I would ask)
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Post by: Gannaingh on December 19, 2012, 07:55:02 PM
Beautiful Martin! I can only hope my winter looks as pretty as this!
Title: Re: Dutch winter sunrise
Post by: Oshyan on December 20, 2012, 12:47:57 AM
Absolutely gorgeous Martin! Nearly flawless in my opinion, aside from that little sharp terrain edge in the lower-left, as I mentioned on Facebook. :)

- Oshyan
Title: Re: Dutch winter sunrise
Post by: mhaze on December 20, 2012, 04:10:01 AM
Wow! what a terrific piece of work. It perfectly captures those cold snowy, misty mornings most of us sleep through!
Title: Re: Dutch winter sunrise
Post by: TheBadger on December 20, 2012, 05:10:46 AM
Hi Martin.

Even better that the first one! Makes me need to ask a question though.
The first one when viewed next to the new one looks a little muddy. The new one looks much more crisp.sharp. Is this just a question of detail settings?

Outstanding image T-U.  :o :o :o :o :o 5 drools rating!
Title: Re: Dutch winter sunrise
Post by: Tangled-Universe on December 20, 2012, 07:44:01 AM
Thanks a lot guys, I'm happy you all like it. I spend quite some time on this one, especially if I count in the time I spent designing the non-winter version a couple of months ago. I don't wanna know actually :)

Quote from: masonspappy on December 19, 2012, 06:53:47 PM
Hey T-U,   would it be okay for me to use this as the background on my laptop? Or is there some sort of restriction involved (that's fine if there is, just thought I would ask)


Of course, go ahead! Thanks! :)

Quote from: Oshyan on December 20, 2012, 12:47:57 AM
Absolutely gorgeous Martin! Nearly flawless in my opinion, aside from that little sharp terrain edge in the lower-left, as I mentioned on Facebook. :)

- Oshyan

Thanks Oshyan.
I agree, I need to fix this. Probably I will cover it up with some models.

Pity you can't blur these edges with the simple shape shader.
Also, when using intersect underlying, the surface layer shader interprets these edges in a really weird manner.
The edges got torn or were displaced much more than the intersect underlying settings themselves.
I had really great snow cover, much nicer than this, but it was painfully ugly at these corners :)

Anyway, I learned from it.

Quote from: TheBadger on December 20, 2012, 05:10:46 AM
Hi Martin.

Even better that the first one! Makes me need to ask a question though.
The first one when viewed next to the new one looks a little muddy. The new one looks much more crisp.sharp. Is this just a question of detail settings?

Outstanding image T-U.  :o :o :o :o :o 5 drools rating!

Thanks Michael.

The latest version was rendered with slightly lower detail settings, actually.
What you observe is the difference in rendering at a different resolution.
The first version was a crop from a 1600px (or something) wide render.
The latest one was a crop from a 3200px wide render.

The settings were:
Detail 0.55
-AA8, 1/4th first, pnt 0.03 with cubic b-spline filter.
-64 atmo samples (still gives quite some noise in the bushes near the sun, but luckily it's covered up nicely. Probably need 128 samples or so).
-All 4 cloud layer at detail 2.
-Soft shadows @ 0.25 with 15 samples. (also quite noisy, but also covered up enough by the roughness of the surfaces the shadows get cast on. On a smooth surface the lack of samples will become apparent.)
- GI 2/4/6 (this may seem low, together with 0.55 detail setting, but I couldn't find much benefit for higher settings. Likely the snow scatters the light so much that there isn't much detail in GI necessary. Only the clouds could benefit from a bit higher GI. This took long enough to render though;))

Rendertime was approx 8 hours.
Title: Re: Dutch winter sunrise
Post by: Moonseed58 on December 20, 2012, 09:33:21 AM
fantastic stuff check out my snow covered car on FB
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Post by: schmeerlap on December 20, 2012, 09:43:44 AM
Gorgeous seasonal scene. Immaculate.
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Post by: Jo Kariboo on December 20, 2012, 04:32:28 PM
Beautifull !!! The snow in the trees are a very good idea and nice realisation.
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Post by: mhaze on December 21, 2012, 05:35:41 AM
I've just noticed the snow on the base of the trees - how did you do that?
Title: Re: Dutch winter sunrise
Post by: Tangled-Universe on December 21, 2012, 10:46:04 AM
Quote from: mhaze on December 21, 2012, 05:35:41 AM
I've just noticed the snow on the base of the trees - how did you do that?

I'm not sure what you mean with the base of the trees. I didn't do anything special to that.

The snow on the models is done in 3D Studio Max.
There are several tutorials on the net demonstrating how to create snow using particles.
It's very simple once you've succesfully went through the procedure once.

Does that answer your question?

Cheers,
Martin
Title: Re: Dutch winter sunrise
Post by: otakar on December 21, 2012, 11:16:30 AM
This is great. Sure is nice when you can add to models like this (snow). Flawless render. Congrats!
Title: Re: Dutch winter sunrise
Post by: mhaze on December 21, 2012, 11:23:38 AM
Thanks for the reply Martin. Don't have max so I'll have to do it the hard way if I ever need the effect.
Title: Re: Dutch winter sunrise
Post by: Tangled-Universe on December 21, 2012, 11:25:41 AM
Thanks Otakar :)

Quote from: mhaze on December 21, 2012, 11:23:38 AM
Thanks for the reply Martin. Don't have max so I'll have to do it the hard way if I ever need the effect.

Well, if you don't plan on covering too many models I'm willing to do a couple for you.
Title: Re: Dutch winter sunrise
Post by: moodflow on December 22, 2012, 08:55:39 PM
I really like that ground fog.  It shows just how cold it is.  And the sunset light flood couldn't have been done better.  Very nice work indeed!
Title: Re: Dutch winter sunrise
Post by: mhaze on December 23, 2012, 04:42:20 AM
Cheers TU, thanks for the offer just discovered daughters boyfriend has access to max.
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Post by: Hetzen on December 26, 2012, 04:56:41 PM
Stunning.
Title: Re: Dutch winter sunrise
Post by: Simius Strabus on December 26, 2012, 06:11:04 PM
Too bad its raining in the Netherlands right now....
Title: Re: Dutch winter sunrise
Post by: Tangled-Universe on December 27, 2012, 06:20:52 AM
Thanks guys :)

Quote from: Simius Strabus on December 26, 2012, 06:11:04 PM
Too bad its raining in the Netherlands right now....


Yeah weather sucks here now, although it is not raining here (yet) in Rotterdam.
Where do you live in The Netherlands, Chiel?
Title: Re: Dutch winter sunrise
Post by: Simius Strabus on December 27, 2012, 07:10:11 AM
Nijmegen.  :o
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Post by: Dune on December 27, 2012, 11:40:21 AM
Nice area, Ooypolder and such. I used to come there birdwatching.
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Post by: TheBadger on December 29, 2012, 03:21:25 PM
thanks for the details in the response Martin.
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Post by: Seth on January 01, 2013, 05:18:30 PM
very nice atmosphere, Martin.
The colours are lovely. looks really cold there