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General => Open Discussion => Topic started by: Blackheart6004 on December 24, 2006, 04:36:44 PM

Poll
Question: Should Planetside should have a new site layout?
Option 1: Yes! The current colors are crappy! votes: 15
Option 2: Neutral. votes: 8
Title: New Planetside Site Layout?
Post by: Blackheart6004 on December 24, 2006, 04:36:44 PM
Topic.
Title: Re: New Planetside Site Layout?
Post by: Dark Fire on January 05, 2007, 06:15:08 PM
I agree that the current Planetside site layout is not great, but you can see that more effort is being made by the Planetside team now to make their stuff look good - these forums and the T2TP download page look reasonable. Obviously there is a lot of room for improvement, but the progress is encouraging.
Title: Re: New Planetside Site Layout?
Post by: crazymonkey on January 05, 2007, 07:02:36 PM
don't mind either way to be honest ;D
Title: Re: New Planetside Site Layout?
Post by: Blackheart6004 on January 05, 2007, 07:27:22 PM
Quote from: Dark Fire on January 05, 2007, 06:15:08 PM
I agree that the current Planetside site layout is not great, but you can see that more effort is being made by the Planetside team now to make their stuff look good - these forums and the T2TP download page look reasonable. Obviously there is a lot of room for improvement, but the progress is encouraging.

Yeah. I've spoked with Oshyan on MSN a while ago about the site layout and he said it does needs to be redesigned since its been like that when the first version of TG came out.

Now its the year 2007 and Planetside needs to work on it but unfortunately they dont have time to work on it now.
Title: Re: New Planetside Site Layout?
Post by: Dark Fire on January 06, 2007, 01:32:13 PM
There were actually minor improvements to the layout a while ago, but the site does look almost the same as it did when TG first came out. However, the website is not a huge priority at the moment - they need to work a lot on TG2.
Title: Re: New Planetside Site Layout?
Post by: MeltingIce on January 06, 2007, 02:42:31 PM
I've been inspired and I've started working on a new welcome page for their site, maybe they'll like it and use it  :o
Title: Re: New Planetside Site Layout?
Post by: Dark Fire on January 06, 2007, 04:52:42 PM
That's a good idea. I wonder if they would be willing to use it...
Title: Re: New Planetside Site Layout?
Post by: MeltingIce on January 06, 2007, 04:57:42 PM
Sigh, I'm about ready to murder Internet Explorer because of its horrible CSS support.  If you use anything but IE, this should look fine.  If you have IE, keep in mind that I'm trying to find a fix/hack to get around IE's inadequacy as a web browser.  Here's what I have so far: http://meltingice.net/planetside
(I don't mean to promote my own artwork, which I used for the background for the site.  I will gladly use a different render if asked to.)
Title: Re: New Planetside Site Layout?
Post by: Dark Fire on January 06, 2007, 05:04:05 PM
That looks amazing (even in IE). It has a very similar feel to the Windows Vista section of the Microsoft website (http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/), although it clearly has better graphics. Keep working on it and Planetside will have to come up with a good argument for not using it.
Title: Re: New Planetside Site Layout?
Post by: MeltingIce on January 06, 2007, 05:07:45 PM
Quote from: Dark Fire on January 06, 2007, 05:04:05 PM
That looks amazing (even in IE). It has a very similar feel to the Windows Vista section of the Microsoft website (http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/), although it clearly has better graphics. Keep working on it and Planetside will have to come up with a good argument for not using it.
Haha you found my inspiration for the design, I really like the Vista site so I thought I would make my own version.  I wrote it from scratch so I doubt theres anything Microsoft can say about it.
Title: Re: New Planetside Site Layout?
Post by: Dark Fire on January 06, 2007, 05:16:56 PM
A navigation area on the left-hand side of the page is the oldest trick on the internet so if they were to challenge yours, they could upset a lot of people. The landscape in the background is a similarly popular design feature that Microsoft could not challange. By the way, I think your version looks better than the Windows Vista site, which is spoiled by heavy JPEG compression.
Title: Re: New Planetside Site Layout?
Post by: MeltingIce on January 06, 2007, 05:38:08 PM
Alright well I switched methods for making the nav part.  For those of you who know a little html, I switched from using an unordered list <ul> to make the navigation stuff to just using "br" after each image and no unordered list.  Works perfectly in both IE and Firefox.
Title: Re: New Planetside Site Layout?
Post by: Dark Fire on January 06, 2007, 06:06:11 PM
It looks even better now in IE...
Title: Re: New Planetside Site Layout?
Post by: Blackheart6004 on January 06, 2007, 06:33:22 PM
Oshyan also said they wont take pre-made layout for the site due to security reasons.

Yes you can DO a concept(s) of Planetside's new layout but it won't be accepted.

Title: Re: New Planetside Site Layout?
Post by: MeltingIce on January 06, 2007, 07:01:30 PM
Quote from: Blackheart6004 on January 06, 2007, 06:33:22 PM
Oshyan also said they wont take pre-made layout for the site due to security reasons.

Yes you can DO a concept(s) of Planetside's new layout but it won't be accepted.


What exactly do you mean by pre-made layout?  I wrote this by hand from scratch today... I don't see how there could be a breach of security  ???
Title: Re: New Planetside Site Layout?
Post by: Dark Fire on January 06, 2007, 08:04:31 PM
I can't see what security could be breached so far. I can understand that they might not want a load of complex php powering the website written for them because that could easily provide security problems, but some html, stylesheets and pictures would not provide security problems and could easily be accepted and built upon, or at least considered as a possible new layout by the Planetside team.
Title: Re: New Planetside Site Layout?
Post by: MeltingIce on January 06, 2007, 10:23:11 PM
Yea I didn't use any php at all, its just html and css  :P
EDIT: Just added some text  ;)
EDIT 2: Wow I just noticed how far off the text is in IE, sigh... Please use Firefox or Opera or Safari to view it at the moment  :-\
^ fixed  :D
Title: Re: New Planetside Site Layout?
Post by: 3DGuy on January 07, 2007, 09:11:21 AM
Would you rather have them working on TG2 or the website? I think I know the answer to that one ;)
Title: Re: New Planetside Site Layout?
Post by: Dark Fire on January 07, 2007, 09:17:27 AM
It still looks great in IE. I think it is much better than anything on the Planetside site (http://www.planetside.co.uk/) (including their new T2TP (http://www.planetside.co.uk/terragen/tg2/tg2tp/index.html) page)
Title: Re: New Planetside Site Layout?
Post by: Dark Fire on January 07, 2007, 09:19:56 AM
By the way, 3DGuy, the whole point of us worrying about concepts here is so the Planetside team don't have to. I agree that TG2 needs a lot of work at the moment, and I would rather have them working on that.
Title: Re: New Planetside Site Layout?
Post by: MeltingIce on January 07, 2007, 12:54:12 PM
Quote from: Dark Fire on January 07, 2007, 09:19:56 AM
By the way, 3DGuy, the whole point of us worrying about concepts here is so the Planetside team don't have to. I agree that TG2 needs a lot of work at the moment, and I would rather have them working on that.
Yea, what he said  :P
Title: Re: New Planetside Site Layout?
Post by: Jane on January 07, 2007, 01:33:04 PM
I think it looks nice too. I use Firefox and Safari, I dislike IE.
You talented people!  Everything you all create here looks wonderful to me.
Jane
Title: Re: New Planetside Site Layout?
Post by: Oshyan on January 07, 2007, 07:08:01 PM
I did not say anything about security issues. Anyone is welcome to make mockups of design ideas if they'd like but we are not soliciting such designs and are unlikely to use any that are created for a number of reasons. That doesn't mean we wouldn't consider working with a talented designer on a future version of the site, but that would involve a specific and clear agreement for that project. Certainly that decision might be based in part on previous design ideas specific to the Planetside site, but we do have explicit marketing requirements that will influence the design of the site and which would obviously need to be taken into account.

- Oshyan
Title: Re: New Planetside Site Layout?
Post by: Dark Fire on January 08, 2007, 01:37:53 PM
I still think that creating design ideas is fun, and a good use for our early TG2 renders. I don't blame the Planetside team for not wanting to adopt an idea that they haven't had much control over - they will want to get the next version of the website made well, as the current version is, to put it nicely, not great.
Title: Re: New Planetside Site Layout?
Post by: EdBardet on January 09, 2007, 01:29:30 PM
Work on TG2 ------ The site can wait.
Knotian
Title: Re: New Planetside Site Layout?
Post by: buzzzzz on January 10, 2007, 12:09:12 PM
Quote from: knotian on January 09, 2007, 01:29:30 PM
Work on TG2 ------ The site can wait.
Knotian

I agree with Knotian Totally. Personally I don't really care what the Site looks like as long as I can get to the Updates and Documentation. Besides I think it's fine.

Patting Matt on the back, just keep on with this awesome version.