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Title: Windows Vista
Post by: glen5700 on July 04, 2007, 04:36:52 PM
Hi all,
I thought I would share this with you -

Here is a free way you can try Vista on XP.

Warning: a large download is required - about 1.5GB took about 40 - 50 min.
on my cable modem at home with a download manager.

First download Virtual PC from Microsoft, it's free.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/virtualpc/default.mspx

Then download Microsoft Windows Vista 30-Day Eval VHD
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=C2C27337-D4D1-4B9B-926D-86493C7DA1AA&DisplayLang=en

This is a virtual hard disk that Virtual PC can boot up, there are
instructions with the download on how to use it.

I have Virtual PC on my system and Win 2000 runs quit well on it. I realize
this isn't the perfect way to try Vista but you can at least give it a test
drive and see if you like it. Here is a screen capture to show you what it looks like.

I have to admit that it runs pretty smoothly.

Glen
Title: Re: Windows Vista
Post by: zionner on July 05, 2007, 04:04:19 AM
Haha..Clever!
Title: Re: Windows Vista
Post by: cyphyr on July 05, 2007, 08:34:10 AM
Neat idea. Just one word of warning, Vista will choke on systems with insufficient resources. Dell got into trouble earlier in the year for supplying Vista on machines built with only 512mb Ram. They no longer supply Vista systems with lass than 1 gig of Ram. If your running a Virtual PC you'll need at least 2 gig (preferably more) of ram to get Vista to run smoothly. I used to see no reason to get vista but I'm very glad I made the leap. Vista is great for powerfull systems and absolutely useless of low speced systems.
Richard
Title: Re: Windows Vista
Post by: old_blaggard on July 05, 2007, 11:07:30 AM
Of course, you could upgrade to Mac and start using a *real* OS :P.

Don't hurt me! ;)
Title: Re: Windows Vista
Post by: Will on July 05, 2007, 01:27:40 PM
or buy a Palm, Palm OS
Title: Re: Windows Vista
Post by: Oshyan on July 05, 2007, 01:31:47 PM
Quote from: cyphyr on July 05, 2007, 08:34:10 AM
Neat idea. Just one word of warning, Vista will choke on systems with insufficient resources. Dell got into trouble earlier in the year for supplying Vista on machines built with only 512mb Ram. They no longer supply Vista systems with lass than 1 gig of Ram. If your running a Virtual PC you'll need at least 2 gig (preferably more) of ram to get Vista to run smoothly. I used to see no reason to get vista but I'm very glad I made the leap. Vista is great for powerfull systems and absolutely useless of low speced systems.
Richard

What have you found to be the significant improvements/advantages of Vista that justify the higher system requirements?

- Oshyan
Title: Re: Windows Vista
Post by: Will on July 05, 2007, 01:58:19 PM
a new start button  :P
Title: Re: Windows Vista
Post by: rcallicotte on July 05, 2007, 03:25:30 PM
LOL

Quote from: Will on July 05, 2007, 01:58:19 PM
a new start button  :P
Title: Re: Windows Vista
Post by: glen5700 on July 05, 2007, 03:49:28 PM
One thing I should have mentioned is that i gave it 2GB of ram which I'm sure makes a big difference.


Glen
Title: Re: Windows Vista
Post by: old_blaggard on July 05, 2007, 04:01:42 PM
Quote from: Will on July 05, 2007, 01:27:40 PM
or buy a Palm, Palm OS
Quote from: Will on July 05, 2007, 01:58:19 PM
a new start button  :P
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Windows Vista
Post by: cyphyr on July 06, 2007, 08:10:18 AM
QuoteWhat have you found to be the significant improvements/advantages of Vista that justify the higher system requirements?

Its not that Vista justifies higher system requirements, rather that a high spec system justifies installing Vista.

I guess its difficult to say what is an improvement due to the new OS (Vista 64) and the new system, they both go hand in hand. Prior to installing Vista I was running WinXP 64 Professional on the my new system. Due to my own lack of knowledge I could not get it to recognize all 4 gig of ram. I threw the towel in so to speak and got myself a copy of Vista 64. (I later found a solution to XP not seeing all 4 gig or ram, Bios tweak). That said I had absolutely no problems installing Vista, all hardware drivers went in smoothly, scanner, printer, router etc. I would not say that the improvements in Vista necessarily justify the higher system requirements, however apps that run within Vista are now able to perform so much smoother. Photoshop has no problem accessing huge data files, Lightwave can render massive data sets and the OS just sits in the background doing its job. Cant wait for TG2 to get multi threading! Cold boot time is about 15 sec! The search function is much better/faster (although one really should know where one saved ones files anyway, lol). Fancy new GUI (Aero), take it, leave it or just switch it off!

If you have a system that can support Vista then its a useful choice, if not, then avoid it like the plague.

A low performance system with a high spec OS will be crippled, similarly a high performance system with a low spec OS will also be crippled, so use an OS that is appropriate to your system specs.

Richard
Title: Re: Windows Vista
Post by: Volker Harun on July 06, 2007, 10:02:28 AM
Would a dualcore 1.6GHz with 2GB Ram Notebook which is labeled 'Vista-capable' (!) be worth to be upgraded? I have a spare Vista (that black box, it is office premium I think) lying around at home.

Volker  ??? ??? ;D