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Title: Outlook express
Post by: Dune on April 30, 2014, 03:36:14 AM
I must ventilate my annoyance with old Bill. He scrapped OE from win7, and since we have to update, we lost a simple and effective mail client. So I took live mail, but the annoyance is this: I have 2 OS's on 2 partitions, one online (win7) and one offline (XP) where I work in PS, etc.. I used to be able to read mails from offline XP, but OE can't use the same mail folder as Live mail. And Live mail doesn't install on XP.
So, tried a number of email clients, but either they separate my different accounts' mails into their account's folder (inboxes and such), where I want them all in one inbox, or they don't import my addresses, or they won't install on offline OS........ WTF  >:( :(
I know, the answer would be to install/upgrade win 7 over XP on offline partition as well, but I hesitate.... maybe not all software works on win7....

Just to ventilate a bit... pffff.
Title: Re: Outlook express
Post by: archonforest on April 30, 2014, 04:01:02 AM
Well I guess u are not the only one who has problems with the "products" of Billy boy... :D

I just saw this this morning: If you're reading this newsletter using Microsoft's Internet Explorer, you may want to stop, as there is currently a severe vulnerability in it that affects all major versions of the browser from IE6 through IE11.
Data is from Cnet.
Title: Re: Outlook express
Post by: N-drju on April 30, 2014, 05:05:16 AM
That's why I have Google Chrome at work and Safari at home. :P

So from what I understand Ulco you have to shut down and reopen your computer over again on Win7 to read mail? That's exactly like having Windows and Mac while, despite appearances, there are not many programs and applications that work for both. And what if some of them work better on one system while others yet on another? It's crazy.
Title: Re: Outlook express
Post by: Dune on April 30, 2014, 06:43:52 AM
Life is getting more complicated every day. Well, I did manage to install Live Mail on XP offline, and can see the folder used by both versions from 'either side' now. It did mean some backing up before hand, to be sure, and indeed lost all mail in the process, but was able to restore that (finally by hand). I don't like automatic restoring at all (which Live mail did at first), as then there were suddenly more folders than I ever use, and sent items were sent by me, but also to me  ??? Inbox had mails with both to and from the same names/addresses.
How complicated is it to make something simple and customizable?

Google Chrome sends data to Google, I don't like that!

And yes, be careful on the web, now and ever! That's why I work offline, and occasionally switch (indeed) to go online. Less chance of being hacked and plundered.
Title: Re: Outlook express
Post by: choronr on April 30, 2014, 11:29:06 AM
Quote from: archonforest on April 30, 2014, 04:01:02 AM
Well I guess u are not the only one who has problems with the "products" of Billy boy... :D

I just saw this this morning: If you're reading this newsletter using Microsoft's Internet Explorer, you may want to stop, as there is currently a severe vulnerability in it that affects all major versions of the browser from IE6 through IE11.
Data is from Cnet.
I'm happy I chose 'Firefox in lieu of IE a number of years ago.
Title: Re: Outlook express
Post by: jaf on April 30, 2014, 11:53:53 AM
I have the same problem.  And also, I'm not into social media... Facebook, etc, and it seems more-and-more sites require you to use Facebook or something similar to participate.  If you go to an ESPN site and want to comment on a topic, you have to use a Facebook log-in.  >:(
Title: Re: Outlook express
Post by: archonforest on April 30, 2014, 11:57:19 AM
Quote from: jaf on April 30, 2014, 11:53:53 AM
I have the same problem.  And also, I'm not into social media... Facebook, etc, and it seems more-and-more sites require you to use Facebook or something similar to participate.  If you go to an ESPN site and want to comment on a topic, you have to use a Facebook log-in.  >:(

This social media bullcrap is just out of control...it is just simple ridiculous that u cannot do something without a damn Facebook logon >:(
Title: Re: Outlook express
Post by: choronr on April 30, 2014, 12:04:35 PM
Agree. Sounds like good ole GOV doesn't it?
Title: Re: Outlook express
Post by: Dune on April 30, 2014, 12:47:00 PM
People get fed up with the facebook stuff, no doubt. eating up all your precious time for so-called friends. I've got my friends here  ;)
Title: Re: Outlook express
Post by: yossam on April 30, 2014, 01:20:30 PM
Me 2.  ;D
Title: Re: Outlook express
Post by: Lady of the Lake on April 30, 2014, 11:02:05 PM
I don't use Facebook, refuse to, and don't do Twitter/etc.  I thought I was the only one that didn't like these things.  Way too invasive.  Wouldn't touch Google for a browser either.  Might have to download Firefox until IE gets fixed though.
Title: Re: Outlook express
Post by: TheBadger on May 01, 2014, 12:00:22 AM
Quote from: Dune on April 30, 2014, 12:47:00 PM
People get fed up with the facebook stuff, no doubt. eating up all your precious time for so-called friends. I've got my friends here  ;)

Im much more interested in what you guys are doing than what my "real world" friends are doing. You guys do much more interesting stuff  :D

I would laugh at your windows troubles, but truthfully all the security issues really make me worried. If the world is really moving to internet everything, than someone better start taking all this stuff seriously. Cause I get the distinct feeling there are some important people sitting in some fancy rooms some place having a real laugh at all of us. :o.. Also, windows sucks ;D
Title: Re: Outlook express
Post by: archonforest on May 01, 2014, 02:52:32 AM
I think the only people really enjoy Facebook and similar stuff are sitting at CIA or something. It is just a perfect open database of couple of millions of people. Names, addresses, photos friends...whatever they want...and it is free... :D
Title: Re: Outlook express
Post by: Dune on May 01, 2014, 02:54:04 AM
DIY Big Brother
Title: Re: Outlook express
Post by: choronr on May 01, 2014, 03:04:16 AM
Give me the good old days in the '50s when all was good! No internet, no computers. Felt like creating landscape scenes? Just take out the sketch pad and go to work.
Title: Re: Outlook express
Post by: archonforest on May 01, 2014, 03:32:49 AM
Quote from: Dune on May 01, 2014, 02:54:04 AM
DIY Big Brother

LOL...
...or not? As what u say might be very true... :o
Title: Re: Outlook express
Post by: TheBadger on May 01, 2014, 07:21:47 PM
@ choronr ;D. Well I don't know too much about life in the 50's. But I know a brand new house then was made of the same stuff it is now and it did not cost 250-350,000 dollars! They really ass raped the dollar!.. Sorry, working on buying a home now.
Title: Re: Outlook express
Post by: TheBadger on May 01, 2014, 07:24:17 PM
Quote from: Lady of the Lake on April 30, 2014, 11:02:05 PM
Might have to download Firefox until IE gets fixed though.

Firefox is pretty good. Just don't use it to say anything the company disagrees with, or thy may make you resign your copy  :o I still use safari, even though I don't like it or trust it. But to be fair, I don't like or trust anything though.
Title: Re: Outlook express
Post by: choronr on May 01, 2014, 07:47:38 PM
Quote from: TheBadger on May 01, 2014, 07:21:47 PM
@ choronr ;D. Well I don't know too much about life in the 50's. But I know a brand new house then was made of the same stuff it is now and it did not cost 250-350,000 dollars! They really ass raped the dollar!.. Sorry, working on buying a home now.
Yep, bought my first home in '67 for 18.9K; sold it in '88 for 89.5K. Then bought the one I now live in during 1988 for 113K. I deplore someone else valuating my property when it comes time to sell ...I know what improvements I've made over the years.
Title: Re: Outlook express
Post by: choronr on May 01, 2014, 07:49:56 PM
Quote from: TheBadger on May 01, 2014, 07:24:17 PM
Quote from: Lady of the Lake on April 30, 2014, 11:02:05 PM
Might have to download Firefox until IE gets fixed though.

Firefox is pretty good. Just don't use it to say anything the company disagrees with, or thy may make you resign your copy  :o I still use safari, even though I don't like it or trust it. But to be fair, I don't like or trust anything though.
You need to get yourself an island and a soccer ball like Tom Hanks.
Title: Re: Outlook express
Post by: PabloMack on May 15, 2014, 10:12:50 AM
Quote from: Dune on April 30, 2014, 03:36:14 AM
I must ventilate my annoyance with old Bill.

Dune, I have the same gripe as you have. But I think it is out of old Bill's hands now.
Title: Re: Outlook express
Post by: PabloMack on May 15, 2014, 10:14:08 AM
Quote from: choronr on May 01, 2014, 07:49:56 PMYou need to get yourself an island and a soccer ball like Tom Hanks.

I hated to watch that movie. But I guess I'm usually an island unto myself except when I get on this forum.  ;D
Title: Re: Outlook express
Post by: Kadri on May 15, 2014, 12:12:11 PM
Quote from: PabloMack on May 15, 2014, 10:14:08 AM
Quote from: choronr on May 01, 2014, 07:49:56 PMYou need to get yourself an island and a soccer ball like Tom Hanks.

I hated to watch that movie. ...

I like that movie.
But it one of the movies that i absolutely would not want to see more then ones :)