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Title: May the force...............
Post by: yossam on November 28, 2014, 11:38:16 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMOVFvcNfvE
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Post by: Kadri on November 28, 2014, 11:45:29 AM
Other then the X-wing and Millenium falcon scenes it looked nearly like a fan made film.
I hope the movie is better. It is only a teaser at least.
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Post by: yossam on November 28, 2014, 11:51:25 AM
Those were the 2 best shots IMO..............like you, hope the movie is better.  ;D
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Post by: Kadri on November 28, 2014, 11:57:09 AM
 :)
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Post by: TheBadger on November 28, 2014, 12:47:21 PM
Please don't nerd out by this question, but what are these next movies about anyway?
As to if the movies will be good, is it even possible that they could be worse than the last three?
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Post by: zaxxon on November 28, 2014, 12:55:14 PM
The Star Wars franchise is in need of some real improvement. The progressive decline of the movies was hugely disappointing, and now I barely care. Based on these clips, I still don't care. We'll see.
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Post by: Upon Infinity on November 28, 2014, 01:32:24 PM
Quote from: TheBadger on November 28, 2014, 12:47:21 PM
Please don't nerd out by this question, but what are these next movies about anyway?
As to if the movies will be good, is it even possible that they could be worse than the last three?

Don't "nerd out"?  Man, you are on the wrong forum...   ;)

As I understand it, George Lucas always envisioned there being nine movies in the franchise, as least as early as the mid-late '80's.  Although it seems between raising a family and no longer having the producers at Fox to temper his creativity, he lost of a bit of his mojo directing the last 3 prequels.  Wisely, he handed the reins to others who are hopefully more capable.  Considering what Abrams did with Star Trek, I have little hope he'll do better with Star Wars.

All that said, I'd be lying if I didn't say I was looking forward to seeing it.  The trailer is very undeveloped, as it should be, as they are still shooting the film.  It's actually impressive they have that much post-processing done.  On the other hand, thanks to Peter Jackson, I've learned not to let my hopes get too high.
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Post by: yossam on November 28, 2014, 01:56:38 PM
The light saber bothers me........the hand guard could be very detrimental to the person wielding it.  ???
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Post by: Kadri on November 28, 2014, 02:42:16 PM
Other then the two scenes i mentioned nothing made me feel "young" :)
The stupid rolling robot looked directly like a "made for kids" part.
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Post by: yossam on November 28, 2014, 02:52:45 PM
Kadri............when you are my age there is very little that makes you feel young.  :P
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Post by: Kadri on November 28, 2014, 02:55:18 PM

LOL! I am not quite young now too :)
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Post by: PabloMack on November 28, 2014, 08:20:14 PM
Quote from: Kadri on November 28, 2014, 02:42:16 PMOther then the two scenes i mentioned nothing made me feel "young" :)The stupid rolling robot looked directly like a "made for kids" part.

In an interview, Lucas didn't call Star Wars a science fiction. He called it a fantasy. You could call it a science fantasy. I think he was right seeing these sorts of characters in his productions. With Disney in charge now, it will only get more cartoony.
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Post by: AP on November 28, 2014, 09:12:44 PM
The fine environmental details with the ships made it believable. I hope the shots are not to wonky. My head may be broken by the time the movie is over with. The droid does not bother me as it depends how often that might be an occurrence. Star Wars had such moments with episodes 4,5 and 6. Lawrence Kasdan is involved and with what he did for Empire, I have hope but cautious hope.
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Post by: TheBadger on November 28, 2014, 10:13:15 PM
but what are the new movies about. What is supposed to happen?
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Post by: Upon Infinity on November 29, 2014, 12:58:29 AM
Quote from: TheBadger on November 28, 2014, 10:13:15 PM
but what are the new movies about. What is supposed to happen?

Honestly, I don't know, and I don't want to.  And hopefully, they keep it a secret up until it's released.  Although, there was an entire series of books written for what events occur after the 6th movie.  I never read any of them, though.  However, as I understand it, these are not considered canon.  So, I think anything is possible, but I would assume it would be remnants of the defeated empire attempt to regain control again.
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Post by: AP on November 29, 2014, 01:16:37 AM
It is a teaser, obviously J.J. Abrams is keeping it very secretive. We will know more in the coming months of course.

The books are the Timothy Zahn trilogy and they were supposed to be very well written.
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Post by: TheBadger on November 29, 2014, 04:41:16 PM
J.J. Abrams,
Lets hope its as good as transformers parts 2-4  ;D  :-\
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Post by: Kadri on November 30, 2014, 01:31:24 AM
Quote from: TheBadger on November 29, 2014, 04:41:16 PM
J.J. Abrams,
Lets hope its as good as transformers parts 2-4  ;D  :-\

Hard to beat  :P ;D
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Post by: Upon Infinity on November 30, 2014, 01:54:28 AM
All I can say is, if they go back in time and alter the timeline so the first movies never really happened at all, I'm walking out.  I.Am.Walking.OUT.
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Post by: yossam on November 30, 2014, 12:28:37 PM
Take a look at this............ ;D


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v93Jh6JNBng (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v93Jh6JNBng)
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Post by: yossam on November 30, 2014, 12:47:16 PM
Or this...................... :o


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpfWrh1scZU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpfWrh1scZU)
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Post by: Kadri on November 30, 2014, 01:13:50 PM

Man that first one made me lough :D
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Post by: Upon Infinity on November 30, 2014, 08:16:56 PM
Some George Lucas inspired humour:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6QnjXUtD_A&list=UUulHXoobGzekUVVcBpiQ3AA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bV7PnPnjNYI
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Post by: TheBadger on November 30, 2014, 11:52:09 PM
A current opinion piece from CNN that makes the argument that G.L. ruined the science fiction film genre forever.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/02/opinion/beale-star-wars/index.html
only posting it because I am curious if anyone here has read the science fiction books the article mentions, and if you would recommend one to me.


Also,
Star Wars VII: Or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Death Star #RejectedStarWarsTitles
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Post by: yossam on December 01, 2014, 12:20:12 AM
The Foundation series by Asimov was one I enjoyed. I read them when I was young. Wonder if they would be the same now.  :-\
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Post by: AP on December 01, 2014, 12:43:04 AM
Personally, I like the original trilogy (Empire being the best) and the prequals were not memorable. Anakin's transition to the dark side did not convince me. Classic sci-fi can be done but I still want to be entertained as well as have a thinking story without a message being forced. It takes a balance and very cleaver writing, just do not bore me. Blade Runner is a great example of all that.

Screw The Matrix!  :P
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Post by: Upon Infinity on December 01, 2014, 12:48:49 AM
Quote from: TheBadger on November 30, 2014, 11:52:09 PM
A current opinion piece from CNN that makes the argument that G.L. ruined the science fiction film genre forever.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/02/opinion/beale-star-wars/index.html
only posting it because I am curious if anyone here has read the science fiction books the article mentions, and if you would recommend one to me.


Hyperbole masquerading as journalism from the Cartoon News Network.   Star Wars didn't kill science fiction, as Pablo pointed out G.L. regards it as fantasy.  Technically, it's classified as a western so, there's that.  And wasn't Gravity one of the bigger movies last year?  The author did get one thing right.  That there is very little creativity left in the series.  But that doesn't mean it still can't be good.   ;D
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Post by: Kadri on December 01, 2014, 12:51:50 AM
Quote from: TheBadger on November 30, 2014, 11:52:09 PM
A current opinion piece from CNN that makes the argument that G.L. ruined the science fiction film genre forever.
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Funny the posts are better then the article.

I have read probably nearly all Science fiction books of Asimov and
Neuromancer, Enders's Game and Fahrenheit 451.
Hard to say anything Michael. I liked them when i read them. But Asimov for example isn't on my top list now.
I am just curious why they don't make a Foundation series because it does have elements that Hollywood would like.
I have Haldeman's "The Forever War," waiting since some years to read.
"Dune" is great but everybody knows that.

If you want a hard read try "Star Maker" from Olaf Stapledon. Very different but great book.
"The book describes a history of life in the universe, dwarfing in scale Stapledon's previous book,
Last and First Men, a history of the human species over two billion years"
I copy paste something about Olaf Stapledon every time i have the opportunity.
If anyone wants to write about the story of the universe this is a must read. Not sure about the readers although ;)
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Post by: TheBadger on December 01, 2014, 02:30:57 AM
I'll look up the titles you all mention.

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Post by: Oshyan on December 01, 2014, 02:43:36 AM
Badger, have you read Kim Stanley Robinson's Mars Trilogy yet? I know it comes up a fair amount around here (not least from my own mention, hehe), but somehow I get the feeling his detail-oriented and realistic approach would tickle your fancy. It's a bit dry at the start (first 100 pages or so of Red Mars), but once you get into space and nearing The Red Planet, it gets damn good. Robinson is incredibly smart and he puts a lot of effort into imagining and describing realistic, plausible technology, scenarios, etc.

- Oshyan
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Post by: TheBadger on December 02, 2014, 06:38:15 PM
Only heard about it here Oshyan. Going to take a look on line about it.


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Post by: Upon Infinity on December 09, 2014, 12:48:24 PM
http://lasvegas.cbslocal.com/2014/12/08/george-lucas-i-have-not-watched-the-new-star-wars-trailer/
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Post by: archonforest on December 09, 2014, 03:41:17 PM
 :o
guess he want the surprise in the cinema...