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Title: The newest Teaser is out ;)
Post by: DocCharly65 on December 29, 2016, 03:05:55 PM
I didn't really believe that I could finish it in time... But here it is:

Teaser 161229 Startrek - The Farce Awakens
https://vimeo.com/197406391 (https://vimeo.com/197406391)

Most work was developing the Klingon language... and to babysit  ::) :o
But all of you will understand babies much better after that film  ;)
Many more info you can find in the credits. I am soooooo tired now.

Of course I could have done it longer but  think 10 min Teaser is OK.
...and I did not have enough suitable music for an extended version.
I hope you forgive me that many scenes are still missing... but it's a teaser, isn't it?  ;)

Now before I go to sleep for a loooong loooong time I wish all forum members much fun with the film, a happy new year and a peaceful, healthy, happy, successful and, of course, creative 2017!


Title: Re: The newest Teaser is out ;)
Post by: j meyer on December 29, 2016, 05:54:09 PM
 :) Another nice one.
Cool integration of the JJ-prise.

Same to you Nils and, of course, to all of you as well.
Title: Re: The newest Teaser is out ;)
Post by: yossam on December 29, 2016, 06:38:27 PM
Very nice Nils............enjoy your sense of humor. Get you some much deserved rest...........the best to you and family in the coming year.  :)
Title: Re: The newest Teaser is out ;)
Post by: Kadri on December 29, 2016, 08:03:16 PM

Nice :) 10 minutes...How long is it already roughly all together Nils?
Title: Re: The newest Teaser is out ;)
Post by: luvsmuzik on December 29, 2016, 08:13:14 PM
Very well done! Quite an achievement with integrating two TG releases for your final teaser. Amazingly seamless scene blending. Good job.
Title: Re: The newest Teaser is out ;)
Post by: otakar on December 29, 2016, 08:58:15 PM
Fabulous! "Lens Flare Enterprise" just blows me away, you can probably build a 10 minute teaser with that model alone. :) Great music, too. And Klingon baby talk, two thumbs up!  8)
Title: Re: The newest Teaser is out ;)
Post by: Dune on December 30, 2016, 06:12:42 AM
Downloading now, as vimeo is stuttering and halting on my phoneline. But for now, Nils, rest well and see you here in the new year. Have a great 2017! I'll comment later.

Just saw it and it is really a fully fledged movie. Great work and extremely funny. Some parts are very subtle and give a great feeling of detail, like the fireflies, and other little movements of objects. The rotating fans in the spaceship are terrific too; object sequence, or did you rotate by hand in the animation? I very much enjoyed the voices and smalltalk of the robots, absolutely hilarious! 
Title: Re: The newest Teaser is out ;)
Post by: DocCharly65 on December 30, 2016, 12:15:15 PM
Thank you so much. Just the fun you all perhaps had was worth the work  :)

I already found some embarrassing mistakes I will correct ASAP: My english spelling is obviously catastrophic... So I will change "lenseflares" into "lens flares" and "myth bustet" into "myth busted"  ::) ;D
Feel free to comment more of these mistakes in the titles and subtitles - the day before yesterday I thought about showing the film one of you natively speaking English forum members for a spell check - but I was too tired, impatient and nervous  ::) ;D.

Anyway I must wait for uploading the next version until I have enough memory budget at Vimeo again. It is limited to 500 mb upload per week and I needed almost 2 days just to get a balance between quality and memory requirements of the film.




Now some answers to your questions:

@ Kadri: I think including the other rendered scenes it must be about 15-20 min. The last final explanatory resolution will be about additional 10-15 minutes. The whole project includes now more than 779 GB in 3,787 folders with 270,058 files (TGDs, TGCs, objects, textures, testframes, frames and soundfiles... )

@ luvsmuzik: In fact I was nervous if the TG3 and TG4 renders look good together - especially the space scenes. The Abrams Enterprise is TG4 with many starbursts so I added some postwork starbursts to the TMP Enterprise (TG3) with proDAD Vitascene. The flight into the docks is completely rerendered in TG4. The scene of the Viper in the desert fortunately didn't need any modification or rerendering.

@ otakar: Thanks - the Klingon baby talk was a flash of inspiration when I sat for a coffee at my friends house and filmed him and his "talking" baby. I anyway had the problem that I never would get enough voice talents for the film.

Now I have to do a decision: Will I give a baby voice to all characters in the film or is this idea now consumed and trite? I will never get all the original characters to speak in a little fan project!  ;D

Please you all feel free to comment this idea - or send me recordings of baby babble if you support a fully baby babbled film  ;) ;D 8)

@ Ulco: The rotating fans in the Abrams Enterprise are both! The fans themselves are 4 manually rotated objects I separated from the whole model. The plasma like glowing behind the fans is a overlay file I bought from rampantdesigntools.com and projected onto the corresponding background object behind the fans.


For the moment I am quite empty...  ;)  And untill now this was the easy part of the film!  ;D ;D

Perhaps I will do another teaser with some finished parts during 2017. Unfortunately I cannot talk bout the final end scenes because the fun and the surprise would be Irretrievably destroyed.  :-X That will be a hard time for me because I cannot share much in the forum and learn from your comments...  :-\ :'(

Anyway thanks for your support and motivation again :)
CU in 2017

... and now I have to turn the heating up  ---   It's very very cold in this room since not all PCs are rendering  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The newest Teaser is out ;)
Post by: Dune on December 30, 2016, 12:53:32 PM
Thanks very much, Nils, for taking the time to answer all. What a f**g huge amount of files, I would be absolutely terrified I lost it (or it got garbled and unretrievable).

Please not all babytalk! And some spelling mistakes might be fun in fact.
Title: Re: The newest Teaser is out ;)
Post by: DocCharly65 on December 30, 2016, 01:02:43 PM
Yes Ulco, I would be absolutely terrified I lost it, too - thats why I have a complete copy of all files on every rendering PC and two addidtional external USB Drives. And all are synchronized at least once a day  :o ::) :)

No more baby talk?  ;)
I thought it too - Ok let's wait what the others say - I will join the majority  :)

I hope I can count on some native english speaking forum members here then?  ??? ;)
Title: Re: The newest Teaser is out ;)
Post by: yossam on December 30, 2016, 03:18:11 PM
Whatever you need my friend...............just ask.  :D  Stay warm.............
Title: Re: The newest Teaser is out ;)
Post by: j meyer on December 30, 2016, 03:28:39 PM
Agree with Ulco, babytalk for the whole movie would be too much.

Looking at all the spelling mistakes of our native english speakers
you'd be better off relying on a good dictionary methinks. ;)

Title: Re: The newest Teaser is out ;)
Post by: Kadri on December 30, 2016, 07:11:28 PM

Quite a lot of files Nils.


...
Looking at all the spelling mistakes of our native english speakers
you'd be better off relying on a good dictionary methinks. ;)

 ::)  ;D
Title: Re: The newest Teaser is out ;)
Post by: otakar on December 30, 2016, 10:59:41 PM
How about confining the babytalk to Klingons, that would work for me (don't know how long the final Klingon scene will be, though). If you need some voice actors, maybe people here would volunteer unless you are looking for studio quality sound, which someone like me cannot provide ;)
Title: Re: The newest Teaser is out ;)
Post by: lat 64 on December 31, 2016, 01:06:14 AM


Looking at all the spelling mistakes of our native english speakers
you'd be better off relying on a good dictionary methinks. ;)
Hey! I resemble that! ::)

Very fun video. I'm in awe.
And what, no Heart of Gold?

Happy new year

Russ
Title: Re: The newest Teaser is out ;)
Post by: DocCharly65 on January 02, 2017, 11:56:48 AM
A little update  :)

I was unsatisfied with many things of course but I could change or repair some of them:

Corrected spelling of "lens flares" and "myth busted"
Some Titles or subtitles look better now since they are not any more zoomed in or zoomed out
Some sound changes:
At the JJ-Enterprise scene double beeps instead of single beeps sound better
The call of Mr. Castel is introduced by a railroad station gong
Added some animations:
Helicopter fly over
In the ventilation shafts
Alien tracker
Ripleys eyes
The drinking bird

I am not sure if the old link still works. Whwn I tested it I was shown the old video though I chose "overwriting" the original file in Vimeo. After deleting the browser history I saw the new version.

It seems to be the same link but to be sure I add the actual link again here:
https://vimeo.com/197406391 (https://vimeo.com/197406391)

I hope you like the changes.
The next renderjobs are already in the pipeline - was really too cold here in the PC room  ;D ;)



What I forgot to add in the credits is the objects and tgc's from some forum members here - I'm sorry!
The end credits of the final film will obviously be longer than the film  ;D
But especially here in the forum I want to mention Ulco's help with the puddles in the R2D2 moonlight forest scene, many grass plants by Chris and all the space scenes wouldn't have been possible without FrankB's Planet Pack. Also I got many good suggestions in repairing or texturing models by Hannes, Jochen, Ulco, Bobby and many more.

...an again I forgot a detail: some animations I had to speed up a bit to have place or the new scenes and I forgot to set intermediate image calculation to ON... So this time the stuttering is my fault... I'll upload an update next week (this week the free upload budget is already fully used)
Title: Re: The newest Teaser is out ;)
Post by: Dune on January 02, 2017, 03:48:48 PM
Thanks Nils. Downloading now..... curious....
Title: Re: The newest Teaser is out ;)
Post by: archonforest on April 13, 2017, 01:23:50 PM
VEry very cool!!!
How many PCs are you using? 10 min is pretty long. I just did my first 10 sec render and it took 13 hours.
Title: Re: The newest Teaser is out ;)
Post by: DocCharly65 on April 13, 2017, 02:44:11 PM
Thanks :)

The 6 render node licences of TG professional are running each on one PC.
2 core i7 with 8 and 16 GB are almost nonstop 7/24 busy.
1 core i7 with 32 GB is used for scene developement and rendering complicated and elaborate scenes with e.g. millions of plants :)
1 core i3 with 6MB for some "easy" parts like the space scenes
Same about my old acer AMD 4 core phenom with 8 GB: Too old and weak for developing scenes but good enough to render animations with no terrain like space scenes or actually the "inside Enterprise scenes"

One last licence I keep for office at the moment. For fast tests  or make my boss interested into TG :)
In some weeks I can get a new decommissioned server (on the old one TG4 doesn't run) then the licence will move there.

Additionally since january I spent app. 800-900$ in pixelplow (including failures - sometimes I am just too hasty and inaccurate  ;D  )


The coming steps (I hope so):
In May / June the next "teaser" with a mostly peaceful but quite long scene at the poolhouse with sunrise and such romantic stuff.
In fall 2017 a "teaser" with R2D2 and BB8 in several scenes
At Christmas there could be a big remake of the journey of the Enterprise from Jupiter to Earth with the inside view of the crash between enterprise and the two TIE fighters. The remake of the older space scenes is necessary anyway because they were rendered in TG3 and the postwork-added starburst effects don't look as good as the TG4 effects.

Next year I want to close some more holes in the story -- there's still detail work to do what happens at the stargate in the wood and what's about the alien in the air shafts of the Enterprise.

In 2019 I will - no I MUST start the final of the film. I think I will need a year for many single scenes and the complicated animations.

And if everything works good, I will need 2020 for cutting, refining, editing, adding sound.


Ohh... here I remember that I was offered native english speaking voice talents... I think it was otakar and yossam.
I guess for the poolhouse teaser I will need you both! And additionally a female and another male voice (as Cap. Kirk) :)

Could interested people here please give me a short pm please?
Title: Re: The newest Teaser is out ;)
Post by: Dune on April 13, 2017, 03:19:48 PM
I'll say it again, Nils; I am very much in awe of your creativity and perseverance. And you probably won't need any heating in your house  ;)
Title: Re: The newest Teaser is out ;)
Post by: masonspappy on April 13, 2017, 03:51:50 PM
 I'm really looking forward to this!  :)
Title: Re: The newest Teaser is out ;)
Post by: DocCharly65 on April 13, 2017, 04:43:06 PM
 ;D I hope my heating costs are in inverse mathematic relationship to my PC Power consumption  ;D

Title: Re: The newest Teaser is out ;)
Post by: otakar on April 13, 2017, 11:05:42 PM
That's some long term planning. Respect!

I did not exactly volunteer for voice acting, but sure, I am game! Just don't expect native English from me :)