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Title: autre image
Post by: Jo Kariboo on March 14, 2017, 11:37:59 PM
flowers and trees: Silva3D
herbs and shrubs: Ulco
tress:AP
peoples:Artec Group inc.

for infos. 51min render approx. : TG4
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Post by: Oshyan on March 15, 2017, 03:25:30 AM
It's a lovely-looking scene with a lot of realism. I like that there is detail and realism all the way to the horizon. I guess that's a lake in the distance? Almost looks like Lake Tahoe, it's so huge.

My only real criticism is it needs more antialiasing, it seems rather noisy. With just a 51 minute render time I think you can afford to increase it. :)

- Oshyan
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Post by: otakar on March 15, 2017, 04:28:50 PM
Very interesting render. Nice details. I wish it were possible to manipulate the poses of these human models so you can customize for each scene.
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Post by: Jo Kariboo on March 16, 2017, 12:53:15 AM
Very interesting render. Nice details. I wish it were possible to manipulate the poses of these human models so you can customize for each scene.

Thank you otakar, and for the human figure,yes it would be a good addition, his characters are quite realistic
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Post by: Jo Kariboo on March 16, 2017, 12:55:52 AM
It's a lovely-looking scene with a lot of realism. I like that there is detail and realism all the way to the horizon. I guess that's a lake in the distance? Almost looks like Lake Tahoe, it's so huge.

My only real criticism is it needs more antialiasing, it seems rather noisy. With just a 51 minute render time I think you can afford to increase it. :)

- Oshyan

Thank you Oshyan,
I have not had time to read everything on TG4, I remember that with TG3 for a decent rendering it was advised 7AA and .8 detail.
What would be the settings to get a quality rendering with TG4. Is there a link that would give advice?
Thanks.
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Post by: bobbystahr on March 16, 2017, 06:16:39 AM
Beautiful and I agree with Oshyan, that'd make it photoreal.
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Post by: luvsmuzik on March 16, 2017, 02:13:44 PM
Probably a stupid question, but are tgo human objects not posable?
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Post by: bobbystahr on March 16, 2017, 02:27:24 PM
Probably a stupid question, but are tgo human objects not posable?

The ones we've been using come as a set of medium res static figures
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Post by: Oshyan on March 16, 2017, 08:23:10 PM
There is no single set of "best" settings that works in all situations. That has always been true. But I'm particularly surprised at the settings that you arrived at as being recommended because the AA value is relatively low, and an uneven number at that (even numbers, especially Powers of Two, are more recommended), and the micropoly detail is relatively high. I'm curious where those values came from.

In any case I think a good way to approach this is to have a sort of "baseline" of values you start with, and then adjust higher (or lower, if possible, to save render time) based on how the results look. So for that I would suggest Micropoly Detail of 0.6, AA of 8, as your *starting* point. AA is more important when there are lots of plant models, especially those with fine details like grasses and shrubs; it's a bit less important with most trees (broad-leafed).

It's also possible that you just added a lot of sharpening in post processing, which accentuated any issues from the lower antialiasing.

- Oshyan
Title: Re: autre image
Post by: Jo Kariboo on March 18, 2017, 01:31:42 AM
There is no single set of "best" settings that works in all situations. That has always been true. But I'm particularly surprised at the settings that you arrived at as being recommended because the AA value is relatively low, and an uneven number at that (even numbers, especially Powers of Two, are more recommended), and the micropoly detail is relatively high. I'm curious where those values came from.

In any case I think a good way to approach this is to have a sort of "baseline" of values you start with, and then adjust higher (or lower, if possible, to save render time) based on how the results look. So for that I would suggest Micropoly Detail of 0.6, AA of 8, as your *starting* point. AA is more important when there are lots of plant models, especially those with fine details like grasses and shrubs; it's a bit less important with most trees (broad-leafed).

It's also possible that you just added a lot of sharpening in post processing, which accentuated any issues from the lower antialiasing.

Thanks Oshyan,
Where did I get this information 7AA and .8 detail for TG3… but in the Terragen instruction manual! ...... Ok it's a joke.
Sincerely I searched in the in forum and found nothing, I probably misinterpreted some information.

I made another rendering of the same scene but with 10AA and .8 detail, render time 4hrs.16min.. There is actually less noise in the vegetation. This is very evident in herbs. The rendering time is also higher. As the top image of the post there is no post-prod.
What do you think?
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Post by: DannyG on March 18, 2017, 11:43:38 AM
Very nice, love the scattered mist.
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Post by: Lady of the Lake on March 18, 2017, 02:07:49 PM
Picture perfect.  This is very nice.
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Post by: DocCharly65 on March 18, 2017, 04:38:27 PM
The 4h-version is in fact better :)
Nice Render!
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Post by: bobbystahr on March 18, 2017, 04:44:00 PM
Well worth the 4 hr render Pierre...love this scene....
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Post by: Oshyan on March 18, 2017, 08:32:14 PM
Oh yes, the AA10 version is much, much better. Worth the render time if you ask me. :)

- Oshyan
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Post by: Dune on March 19, 2017, 07:37:06 AM
Definitely, great render.
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Post by: Jo Kariboo on March 20, 2017, 02:04:44 PM
Thank you all for your comments.


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Post by: luvsmuzik on March 20, 2017, 02:24:34 PM
Your renders always inspire us for sure. Very nice images! :)
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Post by: Jo Kariboo on March 23, 2017, 01:59:18 PM
Your renders always inspire us for sure. Very nice images! :)

Thank you luvsmuzik!  :)
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Post by: inkydigit on March 23, 2017, 09:44:21 PM
Not sure how I missed this, but it looks perfect in the final version... the ground cover and detail is awesome, as is the more distant vista! :)
Thanks for sharing:)
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Post by: Jo Kariboo on March 25, 2017, 02:24:41 AM
Not sure how I missed this, but it looks perfect in the final version... the ground cover and detail is awesome, as is the more distant vista! :)
Thanks for sharing:)

Thanks Inky!  :)
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Post by: René on March 25, 2017, 11:10:45 AM
Great render and the moss/grass in the foreground is awesome.
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Post by: DannyG on March 25, 2017, 03:55:15 PM
Digging this one, nice realism as always