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Title: Picture
Post by: rcallicotte on September 14, 2007, 10:44:35 am
I was starting to think this person got their fractals wrong --> http://www.digiphotgallery.com/story.php?title=divine-intervention

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Title: Re: Picture
Post by: dhavalmistry on September 14, 2007, 12:03:33 pm
I didnt get it.....its a real picture!
Title: Re: Picture
Post by: rcallicotte on September 14, 2007, 12:07:36 pm
Exactly.  I was at first treating it like it was a graphic, since the URL was in an email from a graphic newsletter I get.  I was examining it and looking at all the cloud edges thinking, "Dude, that's too much fractal."  LOL

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Title: Re: Picture
Post by: Harvey Birdman on September 14, 2007, 03:47:42 pm
It is funny how playing with this stuff changes the way one looks at pictures. I'm not sure it's a good thing - I wonder how much simple appreciation I lose by getting too analytical.
Title: Re: Picture
Post by: rcallicotte on September 14, 2007, 04:19:31 pm
Yes.
Title: Re: Picture
Post by: mr-miley on September 19, 2007, 06:37:33 pm
I must admit that I am the type of sad person who finds himself looking at a beautiful sunset and thinking "hmm, what do you reckon, increased red decay, and I wonder what I'd have to do to a power fractal shader to get those clouds like that...?" or "those displaced patches of heather or gorse or whatever... over there on the hillside, I wonder if you could use the deep snow clip for that but change the colour and add a bit of displacement to the top layer?"


Thats how sad I am....  :'(
Title: Re: Picture
Post by: old_blaggard on September 19, 2007, 09:33:21 pm
Oh, trust me, I do that all of the time - it drives my family insane when I verbalize it ;).
Title: Re: Picture
Post by: Harvey Birdman on September 19, 2007, 11:00:35 pm
My god, we're a bunch of geeks...

:o   ;D
Title: Re: Picture
Post by: mr-miley on September 20, 2007, 04:38:11 am
old_blaggard.. I darent say it infront of my wife or daughter any more, they hit me with things....  :'(

Harvey....... you said it my friend, how true  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Picture
Post by: dhavalmistry on September 20, 2007, 12:01:50 pm
Quote from: mr-miley on September 20, 2007, 04:38:11 am
old_blaggard.. I darent say it infront of my wife or daughter any more, they hit me with things....  :'(


lol....I cant stop laughing and picturing it in my head....I am sorry....
Title: Re: Picture
Post by: efflux on September 22, 2007, 11:11:44 pm
The danger is that we try to get our renders looking "realistic" but end up with something which in a photo gallery would be quite boring because the most interesting photos are often of things that look unrealistic. For example:

http://www.atacamaphoto.com/bolivia/bolivia14.jpg

Title: Re: Picture
Post by: efflux on September 22, 2007, 11:24:48 pm
Or:

http://www.shunya.net/Pictures/Egypt/Farafra/WhiteDesert11.jpg

You can find a lot of crazy real stuff. This one is from the White Desert Egypt.
Title: Re: Picture
Post by: dhavalmistry on September 22, 2007, 11:35:30 pm
I cannot see any pictures.....
Title: Re: Picture
Post by: dhavalmistry on September 22, 2007, 11:36:37 pm
and how about this...is this a photo or a CG work?????......
Title: Re: Picture
Post by: efflux on September 22, 2007, 11:42:40 pm
I see the pictures in my browser. Actually, I'm unsure if I should insert these images to show directly in my message or post a link because obviously they're not mine. Although the original location can still be found.

I think we should have a forum area for reference stuff.

dhavalmistry, I can't see anything where you linked to.
Title: Re: Picture
Post by: efflux on September 22, 2007, 11:46:28 pm
Safari shows the pictures I tried to insert. Firefox does not. Why?

dhavalmistry, What browser are you using?
Title: Re: Picture
Post by: Oshyan on September 22, 2007, 11:57:06 pm
If you originally viewed the images in Safari before linking them, you may have "authorization" from the site via direct viewing rather than offsite linking/referencing and thus they may either simply load, or be present in your cache. If I first copy the image URL then paste it in the address bar and load (which does show the image), then go back to this thread, it does show the image I viewed separately in-line in the post. But the other image I haven't done that with yet does not show. So it's something to do with remote linking of images on that particular site, a practice which is often frowned upon so it's not really surprising it doesn't work. I'd suggest simply linking to them rather than embedding.

- Oshyan
Title: Re: Picture
Post by: dhavalmistry on September 22, 2007, 11:58:23 pm
Quote from: efflux on September 22, 2007, 11:46:28 pm
Safari shows the pictures I tried to insert. Firefox does not. Why?

dhavalmistry, What browser are you using?


I am using firefox
Title: Re: Picture
Post by: dhavalmistry on September 23, 2007, 12:00:14 am
Quote from: efflux on September 22, 2007, 11:42:40 pm
dhavalmistry, I can't see anything where you linked to.


can anybody else confirm that they cannot see the pic???....

what msg does it give?
Title: Re: Picture
Post by: efflux on September 23, 2007, 12:05:11 am
OK, Oshyan. That's what I thought about the embedding. Unless it's my own I guess I should not do that but I can't even link to the images. I cleared my Safari cache but that makes no difference. It still displays where Firefox doesn't. I'll sort this out and find images then fix those posts. These are quite famous locations so I'll get something.
Title: Re: Picture
Post by: dhavalmistry on September 23, 2007, 12:13:34 am
check my previous post again efflux......
Title: Re: Picture
Post by: efflux on September 23, 2007, 12:26:05 am
OK. Mine should be fixed now. Actually different shots of the same formations.

dhavalmistry, yours works now but are you doing something more dodgy than even I was when I was embedding the images?

And yes, it's a very strange image.
Title: Re: Picture
Post by: dhavalmistry on September 23, 2007, 12:31:36 am
Quote from: efflux on September 22, 2007, 11:24:48 pm
Or:

http://www.shunya.net/Pictures/Egypt/Farafra/WhiteDesert11.jpg

You can find a lot of crazy real stuff. This one is from the White Desert Egypt.


this one looks like the head of the sphinx
Title: Re: Picture
Post by: efflux on September 23, 2007, 12:42:49 am
If you do a search for photos from the White Desert you'll find amazing stuff.

And just to digress, here is a photo I took a while ago.

He he :D I should put this one in a Terragen gallery:

(http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/3222/lakedistict30effluxcf9.jpg)
Title: Re: Picture
Post by: dhavalmistry on September 23, 2007, 12:44:29 am
where is this???....lovely....I would build a house here on top of the hill.....
Title: Re: Picture
Post by: efflux on September 23, 2007, 12:53:58 am
It's the Lake District in the UK. I live near here. Its photography heaven but the weather is often bad. I've got some new camera equipment so intend to take more photos there. I have much better lenses now than when I took this. I put a few photos on Renderosity but not this one. I think several people thought I was pulling their legs and that the photos were actually Terragen renders.

By the way, on the left side you can see Scafell Pike which is the highest mountain in England.
Title: Re: Picture
Post by: cyphyr on September 23, 2007, 01:08:05 am
Quote from: efflux on September 22, 2007, 11:24:48 pm
Or:

http://www.shunya.net/Pictures/Egypt/Farafra/WhiteDesert11.jpg

You can find a lot of crazy real stuff. This one is from the White Desert Egypt.


Been there, Amazing place, covered in wind sculpted white limestone forms and millions black marcasite crystals, incredible :)

Richard
Title: Re: Picture
Post by: moodflow on September 25, 2007, 12:16:07 pm
Quote from: old_blaggard on September 19, 2007, 09:33:21 pm
Oh, trust me, I do that all of the time - it drives my family insane when I verbalize it ;).


yea, my wife and I will go out to some 'function'.  Instead of looking at whatever I'm supposed to look at, I'll be checking out the foliage, or rock formations (AKA Texture!).

Thats the big joke with my wife's family.  They came out to visit and do a trip up to the Sierra's, Sequoia's, and King's Canyon.  I was pulling over ever 3 minutes to take snapshots of "texture" on the mountain sides.  Their running joke when I see them now is:  Hey, look, TEXTURE!

Her mom sent me an email a few weeks back with a picture of rocks she took.  In the subject line:  Texture.

Title: Re: Picture
Post by: rcallicotte on September 26, 2007, 09:32:11 am
It's CG, but how?

Quote from: dhavalmistry on September 22, 2007, 11:36:37 pm
and how about this...is this a photo or a CG work?????......
Title: Re: Picture
Post by: rcallicotte on September 26, 2007, 09:33:22 am
I love this.  And it looks just like a TG2.

Quote from: efflux on September 23, 2007, 12:42:49 am
If you do a search for photos from the White Desert you'll find amazing stuff.

And just to digress, here is a photo I took a while ago.

He he :D I should put this one in a Terragen gallery:

(http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/3222/lakedistict30effluxcf9.jpg)
Title: Re: Picture
Post by: Oshyan on September 26, 2007, 01:06:50 pm
Quote from: calico on September 26, 2007, 09:32:11 am
It's CG, but how?

Quote from: dhavalmistry on September 22, 2007, 11:36:37 pm
and how about this...is this a photo or a CG work?????......


Actually I reckon it's not. Just a coincidence. ;D

- Oshyan
Title: Re: Picture
Post by: efflux on September 26, 2007, 03:19:01 pm
It's a photo. You can tell by some artifacts and stuff that would not be in a CG render. Probably dirt on the camera but the cloud is actually too complex in structure to be CG.
Title: Re: Picture
Post by: su_liam on October 25, 2007, 01:00:52 am
Quote from: mr-miley on September 19, 2007, 06:37:33 pm
I must admit that I am the type of sad person who finds himself looking at a beautiful sunset and thinking "hmm, what do you reckon, increased red decay, and I wonder what I'd have to do to a power fractal shader to get those clouds like that...?" or "those displaced patches of heather or gorse or whatever... over there on the hillside, I wonder if you could use the deep snow clip for that but change the colour and add a bit of displacement to the top layer?"


Thats how sad I am....  :'(


I find that it has given me a new appreciation of some of the simpler and more mundane things I see. I can sort of, "pick out," ways of generating those. The really spectacular stuff is so far beyond my cg capabilities that I can just relax and enjoy them. I really sympathize with the guy stopping to take pictures of rocks. I turned a 45 minute drive to the coast into a two hour ordeal for my family... then it started to rain... hard.
Title: Re: Picture
Post by: Matt on October 31, 2007, 04:03:18 pm
efflux, where exactly is this taken from? I'm living in Keswick at the moment...

Matt
Title: Re: Picture
Post by: efflux on October 31, 2007, 04:14:05 pm
It's very near Keswick. It's taken from the top of Scar Hill. You can walk along Scar Crags to get there. There are very good views from there.

Here are more shots:

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/media/folder_130/file_1294174.jpg

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/media/folder_130/file_1293630.jpg
Title: Re: Picture
Post by: Matt on October 31, 2007, 05:26:08 pm
A ha, I recognise Robinson in the middle of these two pics. I see that from my window :)

I think you mean Crag Hill? I've never been up there - maybe this weekend if the weather eases...
Title: Re: Picture
Post by: efflux on October 31, 2007, 05:36:20 pm
Yes, I think you are right. It's Crag Hill.

Why are you in the Lake District?

The weather here is fine. I live in Carlisle but when it's OK here the Lake District can still be much worse. It's the wettest place in the country.
Title: Re: Picture
Post by: Matt on October 31, 2007, 05:47:08 pm
Perhaps the same reason you like to photograph it? ;)  Anyhow, when the weather's bad elsewhere in the country it's often gorgeous here.
Title: Re: Picture
Post by: efflux on October 31, 2007, 06:44:48 pm
Yes, the Lake District is a beautiful place but I think the locals here do not appreciate this. I originally came from Northern Ireland and have lived elsewhere as well so I don't take it for granted.

It's a very expensive area to buy a house in though.
Title: Re: Picture
Post by: efflux on October 31, 2007, 07:00:51 pm
There is a guy called tommorules on Renderosity who takes stunning pictures of the Lake District. This is an example. There are lots in his gallery.

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/media/folder_138/file_1376700.jpg