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Title: Hannes' Travelers thread
Post by: Hannes on June 17, 2020, 08:24:06 AM
Sorry for not creating a WIP thread. I simply forgot it during the creation process. Getting old... ;)

This is most likely going to be my entry named "Up and away".

Car and balloon model by Zacharias Reinhardt.
Eagle and hot air balloon models by Cadnav.
Architectural models by Sketchfab.
Birds by myself (Planetside File Sharing Section)

The original render has "GI surface details" on, which looks better than without imho. But on the car's balloons there's a strange Moirée pattern, when GISD is on. Without it it looks OK. So I took the freedom of rendering the balloon area without GISD and composed it in afterwards. As far as I understood the rules, it sounds allowed, since it's similar to render layers and compose them together.
Danny, if you think, it's not OK, please tell me, and I'll find another solution.

Postwork: Rescaling, contrast, chromatic aberration and sharpening.
Title: Re: Hannes' Travelers thread
Post by: zaxxon on June 17, 2020, 08:32:52 AM
A mind-blowing image! You've done it again Hannes. This scene has to be one of the most phantasmagorical mixture of detail and whimsy as I've ever seen created from any digital media app. Full of Wonder! You've set the bar really high here for the contest, not the first time either.  :)
Title: Re: Hannes' Travelers thread
Post by: Hannes on June 17, 2020, 08:41:32 AM
Oh wow, thanks a lot for your kind words!!! :)
Title: Re: Hannes' Travelers thread
Post by: N-drju on June 17, 2020, 09:15:55 AM
Whoa... that is one, crazy vehicle. Buildings are a nice addition from such a high altitude.

Did I get it right that this is your final render?
Title: Re: Hannes' Travelers thread
Post by: Kadri on June 17, 2020, 10:35:17 AM
Looks great Hannes.
Title: Re: Hannes' Travelers thread
Post by: Dune on June 17, 2020, 10:36:06 AM
Absolutely a great scene. I love it. What a way to travel. Too bad about the moiré, though it's barely visible I must say.
Title: Re: Hannes' Travelers thread
Post by: Hannes on June 17, 2020, 10:40:17 AM
Thanks again, you all!!!


Quote from: N-drju on June 17, 2020, 09:15:55 AMDid I get it right that this is your final render?

Probably... :)
Title: Re: Hannes' Travelers thread
Post by: j meyer on June 17, 2020, 12:27:57 PM
Very, very nice image. 8)
Good luck.
Title: Re: Hannes' Travelers thread
Post by: WAS on June 17, 2020, 02:36:25 PM
That's definitely a strange artifact from GISD.

Really pleasant image with tons to wonder upon here. I really am enjoying it. Also kinda makes me want to watch I think Harry Potter 2 with the flying car.
Title: Re: Hannes' Travelers thread
Post by: DannyG on June 17, 2020, 03:27:03 PM
Love this Hannes
Title: Re: Hannes' Travelers thread
Post by: Hannes on June 17, 2020, 05:17:11 PM
Quote from: WAS on June 17, 2020, 02:36:25 PMAlso kinda makes me want to watch I think Harry Potter 2 with the flying car.
Yes, that's what I thought as well!

Thanks, Jordan and Jochen!!
Title: Re: Hannes' Travelers thread
Post by: KlausK on June 17, 2020, 07:31:40 PM
I would have a hard time to choose between this one and "Fly me to the moon" :-\ But as I am not in your shoes, I do not need to ;)

As you surely have guessed from my comments, the Astronaut scene looks really perfect to me (not necessarily for the contest)...

But if I may, I have some thoughts about this one on first impression:

- the passengers are too dark. I really would like to see them better in the car. And if somehow possible even catch a glimpse of the expressions in their faces.
Fun, joy, exitement or fear. THAT would make me as a viewer relate to the whole thing by a factor of 10, so to speak. Identify myself with the protagonists.

- perhaps the wind maschine / turbine which moves the car forward (right hand side on the back of the car) could have something that shows it is moving?
Like the paper strips that are tied to the outlet of a aircondition grid / grating? Just married? :)

- there should be flags blowing in the wind on the castles and in the village somewhere. Would make for some interesting coloured detail.

- and there should be people scattered on the ground. On the bridge. In the "streets". Some kind of live down there.
It looks like they are the only living souls around. Except for the birds, of course.

- and I was thinking, if the flock of birds behind the car balloons were a little bit more like a flock, more in some kind of order, swarm fashion.

- the blue-golden ballon takes away a little bit too much attention for me. I am not sure why he is there up in the sky. Is that a traveler too?

Sorry, for being so bold to have so many remarks. Of course you do know what works best for your intention. Just some thoughts...

CHeers, Klaus
Title: Re: Hannes' Travelers thread
Post by: Hannes on June 18, 2020, 04:55:38 AM
Thanks a lot, Klaus! These are some very good ideas.
I won't change the characters, because modifying them (and making it look good) would be quite time consuming. And I may run out of time a bit anyway. Next week I'll go on vacation, and I will be back after the deadline, so not too much time left for me. I'll see...
Title: Re: Hannes' Travelers thread
Post by: mhaze on June 18, 2020, 05:35:42 AM
Terrific!
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Post by: Hetzen on June 18, 2020, 06:01:26 AM
Fantastic work. Every meter of the image.
Title: Re: Hannes' Travelers thread
Post by: amandas on June 18, 2020, 11:24:49 AM
Really like your approach. You should call the piece The Adventures of Baron Munchausen Vol. II ;) Curious about the progress. Good luck!
Title: Re: Hannes' Travelers thread
Post by: Agura Nata on June 18, 2020, 12:31:03 PM
Well done, great work! :)

I also submitted a surreal work for the competition and I didn't find it necessary to open a WIP too, who understands my stuff;)
Title: Re: Hannes' Travelers thread
Post by: Hannes on June 19, 2020, 07:51:58 AM
OK, that's it. I uploaded my entry, after I made some of the changes Klaus suggested. I added people (barely visible), some flags as well (to the left castle) and finally created some sort of exhaustion smoke. There are twelve localised clouds in a row representing smoke puffs for the left and for the right side as well (unfortunately barely visible and obscured by the car, but placed correctly).
Like before I composed the car's balloon area (non-GISD) over the existing one to get rid of the Moirée pattern.
Title: Re: Hannes' Travelers thread
Post by: Kadri on June 19, 2020, 08:12:51 AM
Great :)
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Post by: Dune on June 19, 2020, 12:32:24 PM
Wonderful, the exhaust smoke is really a Hannes addition, love it. Good luck, Hannes! I hope you end up second :P
Title: Re: Hannes' Travelers thread
Post by: Hannes on June 19, 2020, 12:46:25 PM
Quote from: Dune on June 19, 2020, 12:32:24 PMGood luck, Hannes! I hope you end up second :P
Thanks a lot, Ulco! So, a third place would be OK for you? ;)
Title: Re: Hannes' Travelers thread
Post by: masonspappy on June 19, 2020, 03:35:37 PM
Very cool and fun. Really like this!!
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Post by: sboerner on June 19, 2020, 11:18:06 PM
Spectacular. Great fun!
Title: Re: Hannes' Travelers thread
Post by: Dune on June 20, 2020, 01:47:32 AM
;D
Title: Re: Hannes' Travelers thread
Post by: N-drju on June 20, 2020, 06:44:20 AM
Quote from: Hannes on June 19, 2020, 12:46:25 PM
Quote from: Dune on June 19, 2020, 12:32:24 PMGood luck, Hannes! I hope you end up second :P
Thanks a lot, Ulco! So, a third place would be OK for you? ;)
Looks like you have an agreement regarding 3rd and 2nd, so I'll humbly take the first. 8)
Title: Re: Hannes' Travelers thread
Post by: Hannes on June 20, 2020, 07:20:13 AM
Quote from: N-drju on June 20, 2020, 06:44:20 AM
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Quote from: undefinedGood luck, Hannes! I hope you end up second :P
Thanks a lot, Ulco! So, a third place would be OK for you? ;)
Looks like you have an agreement regarding 3rd and 2nd, so I'll humbly take the first.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Hannes' Travelers thread
Post by: Kadri on June 20, 2020, 07:28:01 AM
;D
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Post by: Dune on June 20, 2020, 07:47:19 AM
:P
Title: Re: Hannes' Travelers thread
Post by: KlausK on June 20, 2020, 01:19:53 PM
The changes make a HUUUGE difference (I had to say that, hadn`t I ::) ).
Seriously, the exhaustion puff is really cool!
And believe it or not, I think the - even though barely visible - flags and people far below the viewpoint do have an impact on the viewer.
May be a subconscious perception, but that`s what you expect down there somehow.
And I take it for granted that the judges will take notice of details like that.
If not, I`d be disappointed.

Good luck to all who already sold the skin of the bear! Yay ;D

CHeers, Klaus
Title: Re: Hannes' Travelers thread
Post by: Hannes on June 20, 2020, 01:32:47 PM
Thanks a lot, Klaus! This is very encouraging!!! Good luck to all contestants from me as well, and may the best win!!
Title: Re: Hannes' Travelers thread
Post by: Jo Kariboo on June 24, 2020, 11:52:12 AM
Excellent work! Although I prefer (Fly me to the moon...) it's always difficult to know the judges' tastes! Good luck!
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Post by: DannyG on June 26, 2020, 03:08:05 AM
Lots of depth and sense of adventure here. Top shelf as always
Title: Re: Hannes' Travelers thread
Post by: luvsmuzik on July 07, 2020, 11:24:20 AM
Great image from an expert! Good luck! :)
Title: Re: Hannes' Travelers thread
Post by: Hannes on July 07, 2020, 12:21:52 PM
Thanks again, guys! I was on vacation for some time, so I didn't follow this thread that much. However, good luck to all contestants, especially to those I forgot to wish good luck personally in their threads.
Title: Re: Hannes' Travelers thread
Post by: cocateho26 on July 14, 2020, 07:44:54 PM
This is brilliant!