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Title: Night train
Post by: René on July 05, 2020, 03:41:12 AM
Night train
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Post by: mhaze on July 05, 2020, 04:52:53 AM
Terrific, Great colour and structures.
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Post by: Dune on July 05, 2020, 07:27:09 AM
Very nice. WIP or finished entry?
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Post by: René on July 05, 2020, 07:52:37 AM
Finished entry, unfortunately. There are still dozens of things I would like to improve, but at some point the knot has to be cut. Moreover, the deadline was almost reached.
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Post by: Hetzen on July 05, 2020, 08:51:07 AM
Really good entry. Lovely rock work and blending.

Jet powered monorails eh, what could possibly go wrong?  ;D
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Post by: masonspappy on July 05, 2020, 09:00:50 AM
Love this!
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Post by: zaxxon on July 05, 2020, 10:15:46 AM
Bravo! A dynamic and beautiful image. The starry night illuminating the rock spires while the futuristic train hurtles by...stunning!
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Post by: j meyer on July 05, 2020, 12:03:46 PM
Cool rock work again.
Good luck.
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Post by: Kadri on July 05, 2020, 03:35:17 PM
Nice work.
I would just work on the lighting a little more René.
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Post by: Jo Kariboo on July 05, 2020, 05:51:46 PM
Agreed with Kadri about the light. Your rock faces are still very well controlled here. The appearance of the image reminds me of illustrations SCI-FI from the fifties.
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Post by: Dune on July 06, 2020, 02:25:05 AM
It might be too late, but the only thing that struck me as being not really realistic (and I had the same issue when I wanted to enter with a moonlit scene), is that for a starry night, the overall light is too bright, and the colors too saturated. When you see so many stars, usually the landscape is pretty dark with very deep, unpenetrable shadows, and the human eye won't perceive much color, unless where bright lights illuminate something. That is a lot more work in TG though. You'd need masks around lights changing ground saturation, and object saturation.
If I speak for myself, I also often want to show every detail I put in a render, but that should not be leading.
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Post by: René on July 06, 2020, 02:54:50 AM
QuoteNice work.

I would just work on the lighting a little more René.
Right... the lighting. That was a big pain. If I pictured it the way you would really see it, there wouldn't be much to see except the lights. With photography you have more options, depending on the shutter speed. With a long exposure the scene would be visible but the train would be a blur and the lights would be overexposed, and on top of that the stars would probably still not be visible. If you search for night scenes where both stars and landscape are clearly visible, you will find images that are manipulated in one way or another.

Because this is more of a fantasy scene I didn't necessarily choose realistic lighting. But it is possible that when I look at this image again in a while, I might come to the conclusion that I should have done it differently. ::)
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Post by: René on July 06, 2020, 02:57:04 AM
Quote from: Dune on July 06, 2020, 02:25:05 AMIt might be too late, but the only thing that struck me as being not really realistic (and I had the same issue when I wanted to enter with a moonlit scene), is that for a starry night, the overall light is too bright, and the colors too saturated. When you see so many stars, usually the landscape is pretty dark with very deep, unpenetrable shadows, and the human eye won't perceive much color, unless where bright lights illuminate something. That is a lot more work in TG though. You'd need masks around lights changing ground saturation, and object saturation.
If I speak for myself, I also often want to show every detail I put in a render, but that should not be leading.
You posted this when I was answering to Kadri's comment. Yes you are right about al those things. :)
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Post by: René on July 06, 2020, 03:01:42 AM
QuoteJo Kariboo: The appearance of the image reminds me of illustrations SCI-FI from the fifties.
Yeah, it's meant to be retro Sci Fi. ;D
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Post by: amandas on July 06, 2020, 04:40:17 AM
I really like the sense of adventure and mystery here! The hero model and the camera angle reminds a bit me of that classic steampunk piece by Rodney Matthews (despite the mood being completely different).
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Post by: sboerner on July 06, 2020, 10:45:08 AM
Brilliant. Love the retro look. Good luck with this, René.
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Post by: N-drju on July 07, 2020, 04:05:30 AM
I think your image is good as it is. No need to worry about the lighting. After all, it might be way different from "normal" in the sci-fi worlds that most of us have chosen as their sceneries!
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Post by: luvsmuzik on July 07, 2020, 11:08:08 AM
I could and should save every image you post! Another Rene special! Thank you and good luck!
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Post by: Hannes on July 07, 2020, 12:11:16 PM
Quote from: Jo Kariboo on July 05, 2020, 05:51:46 PMThe appearance of the image reminds me of illustrations SCI-FI from the fifties.
Indeed! Great image, René! And cool rocks as well of course! Good luck!
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Post by: René on July 08, 2020, 03:38:48 AM
Thank you all for your thumbs up and May the best man/woman win.