Clipped region should be moveable with mouse.
How can i see live prewiev of only clipped region.
Documentation must be availible.
can i select multiple nodes with click and drag.
Points 1 and 4 have been implemented and will be included in future updates.
Cropped previews (updating only the part of the preview within a crop region) is an option I would like to add in future.
You may already know this, but there is a documentation section on this forum. I recognise that it is somewhat limited at the moment, and we will put a lot more time into the documentation this year.
http://forums.planetside.co.uk/index.php?board=2.0
Matt
Ahh yes great, click and drag to select nodes, wonderful! :)
A very good improvement to make it more user-friendly. Glad to hear these aspects are being dealed with as well.
Thanks for second option that you will include.
One more thing i wnat to add is: TG2 prewivew render updates time and again when ever i click on a node or change the tab or with many other things i do.
These frequent updates should be handled properly. Means preview render should update only in case when a value that can effect preview is changed.
Also multiple views like those in big softwares will make a good change.
Don't forget there is a "Pause" button for the preview window.
Richard
Multiple views can be achieved using multiple cameras, but moving between them is a bit awkward at the moment. Making camera toggling more obvious in the GUI somehow may make this capability more accessible.
Multiple views is another thing we have already implemented, and you'll see that in upcoming versions.
Only updating the preview when there is a change to parameters which would affect the preview is quite difficult because of the often-unpredictable effect that nodes have on the rendered image, but we will do what we can to handle common cases where updates are not needed.
Matt
Hi Matt
Are you able to give a run-down of the new features that have been added since the last update. A few weeks back someone mentioned (was it you, cant remember) that they'd prepare a list for us to look at. Is that still possible?
Cheers :)
Again with some more suggestions:
In old tg there was a very good method to set the sun postion. For new i have a good idea that you might like. There should be an check box in the sunlight dialog. If that box is checked an arrow appear on preview indicating the postion (and distance) of sun. I got the idea of arrow from flying simulation games where arrow indicates the target postion and distance and moves as the target moves.
Size of objects should be adjustable in meters or feet or any other real world units to get easy scaling method.
My brother says that quality of live preview should be adjustable.
will the next TG supports animation in its free version???
Hi,
Quote from: lifeh2o on April 19, 2008, 07:28:00 AM
In old tg there was a very good method to set the sun postion. For new i have a good idea that you might like. There should be an check box in the sunlight dialog. If that box is checked an arrow appear on preview indicating the postion (and distance) of sun. I got the idea of arrow from flying simulation games where arrow indicates the target postion and distance and moves as the target moves.
That's a good idea. There needs to be a more intuitive method of setting the sun position.
QuoteSize of objects should be adjustable in meters or feet or any other real world units to get easy scaling method.
TG2 uses metres for units of distance. But do you mean you should be able to set the overall dimensions of an object? For example if you import something you should be able to set it to be 10 metres tall? The object related stuff is something which still needs a lot of improvements and additional user-friendliness.
QuoteMy brother says that quality of live preview should be adjustable.
Well, it is really. The longer you leave it the higher the quality. The reason each detail step takes longer to calculate is because, well, it takes longer to calculate. In the beta version the preview should be multithreaded, in the alphas it is noticeably faster.
Quotewill the next TG supports animation in its free version???
No. If you want animation you will need to purchase the Deep+Animation version.
Regards,
Jo
QuoteBut do you mean you should be able to set the overall dimensions of an object? For example if you import something you should be able to set it to be 10 metres tall?
Yes you got it right. I really mean this.
You say beta will work on cores and work fast for preview. But if someone has single core, than what?
Is it possible to save a rendering process in mid, and resume again later. I know the clipping is the solution. But it is just a question. I have done an experiment. I hibernated my pc during a render and when the i turned on pc the render continued from where i left.
Hi,
Quote from: lifeh2o on April 22, 2008, 10:21:13 AM
You say beta will work on cores and work fast for preview. But if someone has single core, than what?
It will work at the same speed it always did. I'm not sure what the benefit of setting a quality level for the preview is though. What do you mean? Do you mean there should be a minimum quality or a maximum quality?
Regards,
Jo
Hi,
Quote from: lifeh2o on April 24, 2008, 08:45:06 AM
Is it possible to save a rendering process in mid, and resume again later. I know the clipping is the solution. But it is just a question. I have done an experiment. I hibernated my pc during a render and when the i turned on pc the render continued from where i left.
The reason that hibernating/sleeping your computer works is that the operating system basically saves everything which is needed to put the computer back into the state it was before you put it to sleep. However this is much more difficult for an application to do. Being able to save and resume rendering is a request we've had many times, and if we could have done it by now then we would have. Potentially we could work something out, but it would be quite a bit of work and probably wouldn't let you resume exactly from where you left off.
Regards,
Jo
Quote from: jo on April 25, 2008, 12:51:19 AM
Hi,
Quote from: lifeh2o on April 22, 2008, 10:21:13 AM
You say beta will work on cores and work fast for preview. But if someone has single core, than what?
It will work at the same speed it always did. I'm not sure what the benefit of setting a quality level for the preview is though. What do you mean? Do you mean there should be a minimum quality or a maximum quality?
Regards,
Jo
Oh? I can remember one of Matt's posts where he states that the GI-system of the new version is a lot quicker in many cases and that the renderer has been slightly further optimized?
T-U,
Some part of the renderer have been made faster in some situations, yes. The GI lookup improvements should apply well to dense vegetation as far as my testing has shown. But in many scenes you may find there is no apparent speedup in the next update if you only have one core to run on. Karsten's benchmark actually runs slightly slower, for example, due to the way we had to fix some bugs and the improvements made to the ray tracer. Swings and roundabouts, as they say. The solutions to some rendering problems unfortunately result in things taking a little bit longer. Overall I think it will prove to be faster on complex scenes.
Matt
Thanks for your response Matt :)
It seems it will be faster for me then since I have a quadcore and more complex scenes as time goes by :)
Martin
QuoteWhat do you mean? Do you mean there should be a minimum quality or a maximum quality?
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Yes.
By adjustable quality i mean to say that, for example if i set the quality of live preview to e.g. 10 the preview continues to render until it reaches quality 10 and if i set it to 1 preview renders itslef until the quality 1 is achieved.
And above i said that preview refreshes itself unnessesarily, one exapmle of that is when i m setting the clip region size, it refresh.
There should be some way to set and get distance of two planets or any two objects. It will make postioning of objects alot easier.
There should be a method to set and get size of objects and in meters, feet or some other unit to make scaling easier.