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Title: Disappointment...
Post by: choronr on April 14, 2008, 01:16:38 PM
Another disappointment. The image contains only two surface layers and two image maps.
Title: Re: Disappointment...
Post by: PG on April 14, 2008, 02:49:38 PM
Have you downloaded service pack 1? I've noticed really big improvements to crashing programs with that. ;) Looks excellent from what I can see though ;D
Title: Re: Disappointment...
Post by: choronr on April 14, 2008, 03:49:03 PM
Yes; I've downloaded service pack 1. Last night, before I went to sleep, the render was at approximately 24+ hours. I don't know when the render failed; probably when it got to the water which represents about 20% of the image.
Title: Re: Disappointment...
Post by: PG on April 14, 2008, 04:01:36 PM
Hm, well it's still on the last little bit of the atmosphere, water errors don't usually crash it until it actually comes to render them. I find that jiggling the camera by a little bit fixes it sometimes, also try mixing up the quality settings and sample counts. Don't know why but increasing or decreasing certain settings like that by 2 or 3 seems to fix it. First thing I do with water crashes is increase the seed on the water shader by 5 and it usually sorts it.
Title: Re: Disappointment...
Post by: choronr on April 14, 2008, 04:24:08 PM
Thanks PG; I will be trying your suggestions and hopefully save this image from the waste basket.
Title: Re: Disappointment...
Post by: PG on April 14, 2008, 04:34:34 PM
could you share this one too? \.tgc clip files\Pond_a1.jpg
Also, how come the terrain is missing?
Title: Re: Disappointment...
Post by: choronr on April 14, 2008, 04:52:10 PM
Hi PG,

I've got some personal things to attend to. Later, I'll put together a folder; zip it up and put it on Mediafire for you to download. The cloud/atmo clip file I used here was from 'sonshine'. You should be able to find it on the File sharing (or image sharing) part of the forum. The .ter file I used was imported from Terragen 0.09. The terrain is by 'Dotthy' which I have used many times. Check out my image gallery on Renderosity. I have tried to duplicate my original image called ' Pinnacle Bay'. As you can see, with TG2, I've tried to embellish the image with a bit more realism.

I'll get back to you later.

Bob
Title: Re: Disappointment...
Post by: choronr on April 14, 2008, 08:11:16 PM
Hi PG,

You can download the zipped file containing all the files of 'Pinnacle Bay Vista' at: http://www.mediafire.com/?ddxnnmdttlm

Sorry it has taken so long; I've got a lot going on right now. Please get back to me and let me know if you received everything ok.

Bob
Title: Re: Disappointment...
Post by: rcallicotte on April 15, 2008, 01:20:32 PM
Is this the usual message type you get from TG2 errors?  Mine looks different.


Quote from: choronr on April 14, 2008, 01:16:38 PM
Another disappointment. The image contains only two surface layers and two image maps.
Title: Re: Disappointment...
Post by: choronr on April 15, 2008, 01:26:53 PM
Yes, when a render fails, this is the usual message I get.
Title: Re: Disappointment...
Post by: PG on April 15, 2008, 02:44:32 PM
Do you use XP or Vista Calico? Cos XP's error handling is totally different to Vista's, hence the different message box.
Title: Re: Disappointment...
Post by: choronr on April 15, 2008, 05:05:47 PM
Hey PG, were you able to download the files?

Bob
Title: Re: Disappointment...
Post by: rcallicotte on April 16, 2008, 02:38:14 PM
I see.  That's the reason.

Quote from: PG on April 15, 2008, 02:44:32 PM
Do you use XP or Vista Calico? Cos XP's error handling is totally different to Vista's, hence the different message box.
Title: Re: Disappointment...
Post by: Oshyan on April 18, 2008, 02:22:03 AM
It sounds like this is probably due to the known issues with reflections (water). I would suggest trying the scene again when the beta is available.

- Oshyan
Title: Re: Disappointment...
Post by: choronr on April 18, 2008, 02:28:55 AM
Thanks Oshyan; just earlier this evening I decided to give it another try and render it in two parts and merge them in Photoshop (if it doesn't crash again).

Bob
Title: Re: Disappointment...
Post by: PG on April 18, 2008, 02:37:19 PM
Gottit Choronr, I'll render it a bit later.  :D
Title: Re: Disappointment...
Post by: PG on April 19, 2008, 04:14:55 PM
Well it renders alright with the quick render and it renders alright with the full render on lower resolution, i.e. 640x480 but I tried rendering it at 1680x1050 (my monitor resolution) with all the quality settings you had and it had only done about an inch off the top in 18 hours.
Title: Re: Disappointment...
Post by: choronr on April 19, 2008, 04:37:11 PM
@PG: Typically, I render at 1280x 960; and, when I did the first render, it crashed after about 24+ hours (see my .jpg post above) - the image was about 2/3 finished.

I recently did two 55% renders - one from the top down; and, one from the bottom up. I plan on joining these in Photoshop as soon as I figure out how to do it. Each 55% render took about six hours.
Title: Re: Disappointment...
Post by: PG on April 19, 2008, 05:06:47 PM
yeah it was 1280x960, I guess if I'd kept it at that it might've been a bit quicker :D
Well it only crashed when I used your original settings bar using quick render. I fiddled with the atmo settings, increasing and decreasing and it fixed it when increasing it. might just be a thing with the atmo samples in relation to the water, reflections or whatever
Title: Re: Disappointment...
Post by: choronr on April 19, 2008, 05:30:04 PM
Thanks PG; I'll give that a try.