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Title: New use for cell phones!
Post by: matrix2003 on June 07, 2008, 09:54:20 AM
http://freepage.twoday.net/stories/4969270/ (http://freepage.twoday.net/stories/4969270/)
Title: Re: New use for cell phones!
Post by: rcallicotte on June 07, 2008, 10:08:32 AM
Wouldn't have believed it...
Title: Re: New use for cell phones!
Post by: Will on June 07, 2008, 12:35:26 PM
damn, that stuff is going into my ear??
Title: Re: New use for cell phones!
Post by: matrix2003 on June 07, 2008, 01:09:19 PM
...exactly!  I'm thinking brain cells are probably easier to breach than a popcorn kernel!
Title: Re: New use for cell phones!
Post by: old_blaggard on June 07, 2008, 04:07:38 PM
Wow, that's ridiculous!
Title: Re: New use for cell phones!
Post by: rcallicotte on June 07, 2008, 07:40:26 PM
Well, try it with two and I wonder if it would work.  And it's on the ringing and not the talking, when it happens.  Of course, maybe someone will experiment with all of that.
Title: Re: New use for cell phones!
Post by: matrix2003 on June 07, 2008, 10:05:13 PM
Well  -  both my boys have the obligatory cell, "to call mom and dad",  Mom .... has the blackberry, doing the corporate thing.
I will be recreating this "experiment" at home.  And will hopefully capture it as a .ter file.

I hope the corn-kernel advocating types do not turn on me.
Title: Re: New use for cell phones!
Post by: Will on June 08, 2008, 08:08:04 AM
for some reason or another my speakers arn't shielded so when the phone rings or when i talk I hear the signal going out, it sounds a lot like morse code but with different tones and volumes from time to time.
Title: Re: New use for cell phones!
Post by: Xpleet on June 10, 2008, 04:25:46 AM
Quote from: matrix2003 on June 07, 2008, 01:09:19 PM
...exactly!  I'm thinking brain cells are probably easier to breach than a popcorn kernel!

excellent thought.

I've seen this a while ago and it's really amazing, after this guy eats the popcorn, it's obviously pretty hot too.
Title: Re: New use for cell phones!
Post by: Dark Fire on June 10, 2008, 07:37:41 AM
There was a good discussion about how dangerous these devices are, on XDA-Developers. However, they're all well within US and EU safety limits. I suppose the good news is that they did require several phones to do that...
Title: Re: New use for cell phones!
Post by: Extraterrestrial on June 11, 2008, 03:35:34 AM
We're all going to develop brain cancer from cell phones! shucks...can't believe that they can make popcorn! I think from now on that will be my only use for my cell  ;)
Title: Re: New use for cell phones!
Post by: JimB on June 11, 2008, 03:48:48 AM
Quote from: Dark Fire on June 10, 2008, 07:37:41 AM
There was a good discussion about how dangerous these devices are, on XDA-Developers. However, they're all well within US and EU safety limits. I suppose the good news is that they did require several phones to do that...

That would depend on what the respective governments deem 'acceptable risk', whether the science was edited by politicians or was carried out by the phone companies and was unedited there by executives, and over what period the tests were made to examine longer term lower exposure effects.   ;)

If three phones can cook popcorn in seconds, what does one phone do over ten years? Cook popcorn more slowly?
Title: Re: New use for cell phones!
Post by: inkydigit on June 11, 2008, 08:57:51 AM
mmmm popcorn!
Title: Re: New use for cell phones!
Post by: JimB on June 12, 2008, 07:32:01 AM
I know two people now who have tried to recreate this, and both failed to make the popcorn go pop.
Title: Re: New use for cell phones!
Post by: rcallicotte on June 12, 2008, 10:26:03 AM
It's a conspiracy, I tell ya.   ;D

Quote from: JimB on June 12, 2008, 07:32:01 AM
I know two people now who have tried to recreate this, and both failed to make the popcorn go pop.
Title: Re: New use for cell phones!
Post by: Dark Fire on June 12, 2008, 01:58:00 PM
Quote from: JimB on June 11, 2008, 03:48:48 AM

That would depend on what the respective governments deem 'acceptable risk', whether the science was edited by politicians or was carried out by the phone companies and was unedited there by executives, and over what period the tests were made to examine longer term lower exposure effects.   ;)


Most phones don't come near the EU or US limits (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2253334#post2253003) (which are reasonably different). Anyway, relevant data (http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/forms/blobs/retrieve.cgi?attachment_id=938830&native_or_pdf=pdf) (page 3 - Statement of Compliance) is available for you to make an informed decision (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_phone_radiation_and_health) when buying your next mobile phone (http://www.htc.com/www/product.aspx?id=46278).
Title: Re: New use for cell phones!
Post by: JimB on June 12, 2008, 07:33:10 PM
Like I said in my previous post, I know two people who tried it out and got opposite results. However, I stand by my (completely justifiable IMHO) distrust of 'official' data (often based on corporate sponsored "research" - also see NASA's recent attempted suppression of climate research - New Scientist report).
Title: Re: New use for cell phones!
Post by: ramsesoriginal on June 12, 2008, 07:46:03 PM
As posted on more places, this video is a fake (i think onwired theyevenhad an interview witha bunch of physics, which all explained how this was a fake.
And today I read (i don't recall where... engagded? gizmodo? boingboing?bho..) that it was part of a viral marketing campaign of some bluetooth headset producer..
Title: Re: New use for cell phones!
Post by: Will on June 12, 2008, 08:15:13 PM
Quote from: JimB on June 12, 2008, 07:33:10 PM
...also see NASA's recent attempted suppression of climate research - New Scientist report).

pretty sure that was the Bush administration telling NASA not to release it, they battled for like four years or something like that but NASA won and had it released, I could be wrong though.
Title: Re: New use for cell phones!
Post by: JimB on June 13, 2008, 05:05:32 AM
No doubt it was, but at the end of the day NASA were the ones who blocked their man from giving a 23 minute presentation at a symposium on the subject at the last minute. It took all of the other scientists threatening to hold a 23 minute newsworthy silence, rather than change the agenda, to make NASA change their minds.

Back to the subject, though, I now think the popcorn vids are fake, simply because I know people who tried it out and got cold popcorn. YouTube can be just like Wikipedia I guess - completely unreliable unless there's a stack of sources and references listed.
Title: Re: New use for cell phones!
Post by: Seth on June 13, 2008, 01:37:53 PM
http://www.cardosystems.com/pop/

officially fake... made by Cardio System...
Title: Re: New use for cell phones!
Post by: rcallicotte on June 13, 2008, 02:09:56 PM
Thanks Seth.
Title: Re: New use for cell phones!
Post by: matrix2003 on June 14, 2008, 10:14:41 AM
Whew!  Glad this is faked! I prefer to injure my brain cells the old fashion way:
With a pint glass.  Thank you Seth!    .... and cheers ! ;D