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Title: Renderosity...
Post by: FrankB on May 29, 2009, 10:58:37 AM
I thought I'd quickly clean up my Renderosity Gallery and delete all the old images, upload the more recent one.
I totally forgot that they allow me to only upload 1 image a day.

That's quite ... hmmm... strict, but now comes the best part for me. Gave me a laugh: So renderosity told me that my upload limit has been exceeded, but that they have a paid option. So I looked into that, and that's what gave me a chuckle: If I agree to pay only $3 each month (plus $5 setup fee) I would be entitled to uploading a whopping 3 (!) images a day
;D ;D ;D

Unbelievable.... ;D
Title: Re: Renderosity...
Post by: Rhalph on May 29, 2009, 11:04:25 AM
Yeah but it's a very good price, you know, it's a place where you receive such useful and sincere comments, you can only progress by going there !
::)
Title: Re: Renderosity...
Post by: Seth on May 29, 2009, 11:10:27 AM
Quote from: Rhalph on May 29, 2009, 11:04:25 AM
Yeah but it's a very good price, you know, it's a place where you receive such useful and sincere comments, you can only progress by going there !
::)


Rhaaaaaaaalph !!!!

RDR sux big time !
worst comments ever on this webs(h)ite

@Frank : go on Deviantart... I don't think there is an upload limit
Title: Re: Renderosity...
Post by: Rhalph on May 29, 2009, 11:21:52 AM
Oh, really? Receiving a "5++++++++ hugz" when producing a two-click beginner image is bad? ;D
Title: Re: Renderosity...
Post by: FrankB on May 29, 2009, 11:21:56 AM
I'm just taking care of my gallery there. It's a huge community there still, and people who use other software have a place to see the works of Terragen 2, for example, and vice versa.

I don't think anyone should make fun of the people who post at rero, I bet they are friendly people all in all. I am not seeking comments in particular there and I am certainly not looking for advice at rero, that's what I use this forum for. However, my experiences with the people at rero have been very friendly, and that's something valuable in itself,  I think. I've made much worse experiences elsewhere.

What I'm amused about is the "rero company's" upload policy - that's all.

Regards,
Frank
Title: Re: Renderosity...
Post by: Seth on May 29, 2009, 11:57:38 AM
I received  administrator mails 2 times, warning me and telling me next time i will be banned because i gave technical critic once and technical advice the second time...
believe me Frank, it's not "friendly", it's kindly ass-licking...
but i understand your point of view and to be honest i keep posting there because i know some people don't go anywhere else than RDR... and i saw some good renders there too that i never saw anywhere else....
Title: Re: Renderosity...
Post by: neuspadrin on May 29, 2009, 12:13:13 PM
Wow, administrator warnings for simply helping someone understand how to make an image better? Seems critics are what you sometimes post them for. lol.

upload policy sounds stupid too, considering the mass amounts of other upload sites out there that are completely free to whatever you want within a very reasonable max file size limit.  I offload my renders to deviantart.
Title: Re: Renderosity...
Post by: arisdemos on May 29, 2009, 12:39:58 PM
I don't really like Renderosity's  limit on C & C in the gallery, It would be handier to be able to sometimes continue one's dialogue (if it is needed) after an artist's reply. All in all I have made some good friendship contacts with several terrific artists, and value their comments even on terragen stuff. There is a lot of "You wash my back, and I will wash yours" boosting of egoes over there, but it is not always just lip service and certainly not what seth calls it.
Title: Re: Renderosity...
Post by: buzzzzz1 on May 29, 2009, 12:43:57 PM
I can't believe what I'm hearing here! I Buy All My Clothes at Renderosity!
Title: Re: Renderosity...
Post by: PorcupineFloyd on May 29, 2009, 12:51:37 PM
Go deviantART.
Title: Re: Renderosity...
Post by: Seth on May 29, 2009, 01:03:08 PM
You're lucky guy arisdemos :)
What I see very often there is bad (very bad) renders with 3 to 5 pages of "Amaziiiiing render", "Incredible", "5 stars !!!!!!!!!"... if it's not ass-licking, i don't know what it is !
I don't say there are not skilled artists there but... a lot of people call themselves artists and don't accept any kind of critical comments... even when they obviously don't have a clue of how TG2 works !


edit : go to RDR, to the Terragen gallery and then choose "most commented" or "best ratings"... i say that's bullshit. sorry if i speak my mind.
Title: Re: Renderosity...
Post by: Seth on May 29, 2009, 01:03:19 PM
Quote from: buzzzzz1 on May 29, 2009, 12:43:57 PM
I can't believe what I'm hearing here! I Buy All My Clothes at Renderosity!

;D
Title: Re: Renderosity...
Post by: schmeerlap on May 29, 2009, 04:21:27 PM
Quote from: buzzzzz1 on May 29, 2009, 12:43:57 PM
I can't believe what I'm hearing here! I Buy All My Clothes at Renderosity!
'cos he's a "Dedicated Follower of Fashion" . . . "Oh, yes he is! la la la la".

ReRo . . . hmmm, no comment (I turned mine off because of all the backslapping, toe curling "I-want-to-have-your-baby" comments.) I find it hard enough to look in the mirror as it is. As you can plainly see.

John
Title: Re: Renderosity...
Post by: tumasch on May 29, 2009, 04:22:06 PM
We've had this discussion about ReRo a few times over at the German-speaking Terragen community over the last years. Everyone said the same: it's a website full of brown-noses. And I wonder that apparently a lot of "artists" still upload their stuff there. I mean, helloooo...the whole thing reminds me of the Eurovision Song Contest - the more popular you are, the more votes you get. No matter how good your art/music is. I think a lot of people upload there to polish their ego, that's all...
Title: Re: Renderosity...
Post by: Jack on May 29, 2009, 09:57:35 PM
I don't like rendo I buy a few of my models from their that is it.......... I mean have you seen the site? it's awful I cant spend more than half an hour their before i get a head ache their is so much shit going on and the colour yeah maybe back in 2000 but come guys its a 'little' dated now. I have heard many stories about the nation of brown tongues and im not being horrible (well I am) but the quality of art their....um well its rather hard to explain in words I have seen some really epic stuff their but the majority is pretty @$!%^.

I have seen a load of vue images are that just the defualt presets on the extras cd they may have just changed the camera angle hell some aint even done that! what skill is in that? NONE is the only word I can think of :o
yeah frank go to deviant art its cool! their are no upload limits or even size limits you get your own page which you can customize pretty well and the art their is top notch! also their is a Critiqueable section where you can submit your art to be but under the magnifying glass people give you tips and tell you what they thinks wrong and could be improved with your image ;D

if you join up my user name is wetbanana ;)

@ tumasch we have similar avatars ;D
Title: Re: Renderosity...
Post by: tumasch on May 30, 2009, 02:45:49 AM
Quote from: wetbanana on May 29, 2009, 09:57:35 PM
@ tumasch we have similar avatars ;D
I know ;D But I think you changed yours quite a few times recently and I might be right in saying that I was first. lol. But if it bothers you, I can change mine, it's not a real looker, is it? :D
Title: Re: Renderosity...
Post by: Jack on May 30, 2009, 04:44:39 AM
Lol na im not bothered ;D
Title: Re: Renderosity...
Post by: dandelO on May 30, 2009, 11:19:58 AM
QuoteYeah but it's a very good price, you know, it's a place where you receive such useful and sincere comments, you can only progress by going there !
Roll Eyes

Oh! My! God! I really hope that this was typed in sarcasm, Ralph.

I went out of Renderosity with a big 'f*ck-you-all-losers' forum post(without actually saying anything like that, I'm not aggresive/offensive in general). And, do you know, even some moderators joined in the discussion, and agreed with it.
I can't show the thread because once you delete your account(well, once you ask for permission from site staff who delete your account for you, how d'ye like that one?) you become an ex-person and all your posts/threads/etc. are removed too. In effect, they own everything you post there. I was fuming that I had to basically hunt down site staff just to take my page offline.
I have never seen such a pathetic display of suck-arse comments and sickly loveliness in my life.
And, art is it? Pfffft! Sure, there's the occaisional gem but, come on, look at the stuff!

deviantART is decent enough, true. If anyone wants to look me up on DA, I'm dandel0(with a zero not an 'O').

In fact, here's my url... http://dandel0.deviantart.com
Title: Re: Renderosity...
Post by: christianfly on May 30, 2009, 04:09:12 PM
Of course, Rhalph is doing a joke  ;D
I was myself banned from RDR because I had the so stupid attidude to say what I think, and this is absolutly forbidden in Renderosity.
You just have to say: *Wow****^*^*Amazing**
If not, you will be banned  ;)
Title: Re: Renderosity...
Post by: efflux on May 30, 2009, 08:46:09 PM
I think a thread was removed from the Renderosity Mojoworld forum. It turned into an all out slagging match, partly instigated by mindless gallery commenting. Things turned nasty. I'm surprised the thread lasted as long.

Best to move to another app I say  ;)
Title: Re: Renderosity...
Post by: rcallicotte on May 30, 2009, 11:17:22 PM
I give this thread 10 stars out of 5.  You guys are the best.  Love ya'.   :-*
Title: Re: Renderosity...
Post by: Phylloxera on June 01, 2009, 03:56:39 AM
Quote from: christianfly on May 30, 2009, 04:09:12 PM
Of course, Rhalph is doing a joke  ;D
I was myself banned from RDR because I had the so stupid attidude to say what I think, and this is absolutly forbidden in Renderosity.
You just have to say: *Wow****^*^*Amazing**
If not, you will be banned  ;)
Yes it is the same thing for me, banished of Renderosity to have dared to put true comments.
It is a site or you owe in French “un lèche-cul!” and to put only good appreciations!
It is enough there to go and see the comments!
Title: Re: Renderosity...
Post by: buzzzzz1 on June 01, 2009, 10:05:06 AM
Yeah, my mouth got me Banned also. LOL Seems they don't believe in "Freedom Of Speech"? Say something one of the moderators don't like and you are gone.  Although I must say I received 3 warning before being banned. As long as you sugar coat everything and buy from the market place you are good to go. I think the problem was that there wasn't much to buy for Terragen so banning Terrageneers didn't hurt their pocket books. Does Community translate into Communism?
Title: Re: Renderosity...
Post by: Mohawk20 on June 03, 2009, 03:47:23 PM
Quote from: buzzzzz1 on June 01, 2009, 10:05:06 AM
Does Community translate into Communism?

Not here!
Hearing all this stuff makes me appreciate this community even more!
Title: Re: Renderosity...
Post by: schmeerlap on June 04, 2009, 05:29:35 AM
Quote from: buzzzzz1 on June 01, 2009, 10:05:06 AM
Does Community translate into Communism?
There's nothing wrong with Community or Communism per se. Its the sycophantism at ReRo that gets one's goat.

John
Title: Re: Renderosity...
Post by: rcallicotte on June 04, 2009, 09:39:00 AM
In essence, lust for the wrong.  You know - a desire to thrive outside of reality's gravity.


Quote from: schmeerlap on June 04, 2009, 05:29:35 AM
There's nothing wrong with Community or Communism per se. Its the sycophantism at ReRo that gets one's goat.

John
Title: Re: Renderosity...
Post by: arisdemos on June 04, 2009, 11:34:35 AM
I do have to say that this forum is far superior to Renderosity for gaining functional info on one's creations, and there is altogether too much fluff in the C&C that goes back and forth there. Having said this I still would point out that Renderosity is a far different kettle of fish than our membership that is dedicated to only one very specialized type of app. Planetside does not have to regulate such a diverse set of membership issues as does Renderosity, nor is it focused on a vendor base that is so invasive. I hope in this sense that Planetside retains this particular aspect of pro educational function over any commercial pandering inclinations.

I really like and value having a bit of bitter with my sweet when it comes to interfacing with my peers on this site, and believe that a great deal of personal growth comes from being truthful (even up to the point of open disagreement with other TG2 users) about the opinions, facts, and graphic examples presented here. We should not be too smug in our superiority though, because there is something to be learned from Renderosity's finer points ( there is after all much good graphic content there) like having an image go completely beyond the static/realistic landscape background that so often is the case here. Our jungles could use pyramid cities, and our forest, plains and mnts. could and should at times be populated with story/fantasy line content in addition to xfrog's basic variety of plantlife without losing any TG2 educational value. There is a lessoned to learn from almost every site linkage even from what we might consider a somewhat childish cyber entity.
Title: Re: Renderosity...
Post by: Jack on June 04, 2009, 05:37:03 PM
Quote from: arisdemos on June 04, 2009, 11:34:35 AM
I do have to say that this forum is far superior to Renderosity for gaining functional info on one's creations, and there is altogether too much fluff in the C&C that goes back and forth there. Having said this I still would point out that Renderosity is a far different kettle of fish than our membership that is dedicated to only one very specialized type of app. Planetside does not have to regulate such a diverse set of membership issues as does Renderosity, nor is it focused on a vendor base that is so invasive. I hope in this sense that Planetside retains this particular aspect of pro educational function over any commercial pandering inclinations.

I really like and value having a bit of bitter with my sweet when it comes to interfacing with my peers on this site, and believe that a great deal of personal growth comes from being truthful (even up to the point of open disagreement with other TG2 users) about the opinions, facts, and graphic examples presented here. We should not be too smug in our superiority though, because there is something to be learned from Renderosity's finer points ( there is after all much good graphic content there) like having an image go completely beyond the static/realistic landscape background that so often is the case here. Our jungles could use pyramid cities, and our forest, plains and mnts. could and should at times be populated with story/fantasy line content in addition to xfrog's basic variety of plantlife without losing any TG2 educational value. There is a lessoned to learn from almost every site linkage even from what we might consider a somewhat childish cyber entity.


that is what im trying to do go beyond plants and rocks ;D
Title: Re: Renderosity...
Post by: rcallicotte on June 04, 2009, 10:40:09 PM
@wetbanana - your renders are very good.  What do you think you'll do next?
Title: Re: Renderosity...
Post by: rcallicotte on June 04, 2009, 10:41:47 PM
Good, no...very good point.

Quote from: arisdemos on June 04, 2009, 11:34:35 AM
There is a lesson to learn from almost every site linkage even from what we might consider a somewhat childish cyber entity.

Title: Re: Renderosity...
Post by: Jack on June 04, 2009, 10:59:28 PM
Quote from: calico on June 04, 2009, 10:40:09 PM
@wetbanana - your renders are very good.  What do you think you'll do next?
Thanks ;D um im actually working on proper daz importation of models ie real models with skin and hair the only trouble is, is that terragen unlike every other apllication import the colour maps but doesn't import any alpha or bump maps grrrrrr >:( so I have to manually insert about 100 bump and alpha maps to my or else it will look Mr. Blobby:0

also when I add the alpha maps to the hair they seem to be too fine detail for terragen and well the person just look like they have poored straight peroxide over their head and wondered why the have all these bald patches :-\

so I have had a pretty shit experience these past couple of days with terragen I have been having a blast with vue this past week and its been superb
I realise that vue has pretty much caught up to terragen 2 in everything except landscapes its lighting is better (MUCH MUCH BETTER) it fast I mean Hell fast:o im talking 30 minute renders not 30 hour ones it imports objects properly not pissing you off by leaving out the alpha maps and bump maps and you can actually see your object not just some box you have to push about and render each time just to line it up properly and it renders objects far more realisticy than terragen :-\
So I now take all the coments back I said about Vue their is still a lot of problems with it but its improved heaps
Title: Re: Renderosity...
Post by: Seth on June 05, 2009, 02:16:33 AM
it is pretty obvious, that with your kind of render, Vue is clearly a lot simple to use...
a lot of models capacity, different kind of light, and even postwork included in the render...
you use TG2 as Vue... it's like using Vue as TG2 ...I mean : you use weak points of TG2 (with success), so it is like doing pure powerfractal landscape with fake stones on Vue ;)
Title: Re: Renderosity...
Post by: Jack on June 05, 2009, 02:21:03 AM
Quote from: Seth on June 05, 2009, 02:16:33 AM
it is pretty obvious, that with your kind of render, Vue is clearly a lot simple to use...
a lot of models capacity, different kind of light, and even postwork included in the render...
you use TG2 as Vue... it's like using Vue as TG2 ...I mean : you use weak points of TG2 (with success), so it is like doing pure powerfractal landscape with fake stones on Vue ;)
you are right seth sorry for that outburst just days of frustration building up and after the nightmare creating urbis :P I had to let of steam arghhhhh!
I think im just going to do a nice simple atmosphere with terragen nothing special lol! tg2 still kiks butt with atmo's and clouds
um but terragens whole model importation and workflow needs a massive revamp I must say the workflow at the moment is very sloppy
Title: Re: Renderosity...
Post by: Seth on June 05, 2009, 05:30:45 AM
I totally agree, TG2 really needs to improve its way to control models. It's a major weakness to me !
Title: Re: Renderosity...
Post by: Seth on July 04, 2009, 07:02:37 AM
hehe
Title: Re: Renderosity...
Post by: Jack on July 04, 2009, 07:06:34 AM
Quote from: Seth on July 04, 2009, 07:02:37 AM
hehe
Lol!!!!!!!!! I dare you to sign up on rendo and post that in the gallery!
Title: Re: Renderosity...
Post by: Henry Blewer on July 04, 2009, 08:58:14 AM
I get fed up in about 3 minutes. They sent me an email last week, a poll. Will I buy anything from them. What might I buy if I did purchase anything. Is there something we do not supply?

I told them I would most likely never buy anything there. I mean most of the stuff would only make a mildly interesting lesbian porno cartoon. If I can afoord it, I'll go to NWDA thank you.
Title: Re: Renderosity...
Post by: scott8933 on July 04, 2009, 02:47:22 PM
Heh, I got the same email poll. I wrote a long comment at the end, saying that every time I get an email from them, its just a giant splash page full of either Poser models, Poser hair, or Poser clothes. None of which I'd ever be interested in buying.

I know they sell other stuff - I think they do at least - I've clicked over there and noticed somewhere under all the clothes and shit that they do sell actual objects. But that Cornucopia is unbeatable with their prices and Turbosquid will 95% of the time have the model I need, though sometimes of questionable quality... Maybe if they sometimes put something useful on their splash page emails, people might be more inclined to go buy something.

I didn't realize there was such a lucrative market for Poser accessories. That kind of creeps me out actually.



Quote from: njeneb on July 04, 2009, 08:58:14 AM
I get fed up in about 3 minutes. They sent me an email last week, a poll. Will I buy anything from them. What might I buy if I did purchase anything. Is there something we do not supply?

I told them I would most likely never buy anything there. I mean most of the stuff would only make a mildly interesting lesbian porno cartoon. If I can afoord it, I'll go to NWDA thank you.