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Title: Sarah Palin
Post by: matrix2003 on July 03, 2009, 05:40:09 PM
WOW !    :o    ::)    :'(
Title: Re: Sarah Palin
Post by: Hetzen on July 03, 2009, 05:41:54 PM
It worries me when politics becomes more about gimmicks than substance.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin
Post by: matrix2003 on July 03, 2009, 05:44:07 PM
I agree.  But this whole run was very surreal.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin
Post by: Hetzen on July 03, 2009, 05:48:51 PM
All I've heard is that she's stepped down from her post in Alaska, and that the speculation is on her freeing up time to become the next president candidate. Is there more to it?
Title: Re: Sarah Palin
Post by: old_blaggard on July 03, 2009, 05:49:08 PM
Huh, I'm surprised about that.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin
Post by: matrix2003 on July 03, 2009, 06:08:19 PM
@Hetzen  The Party had her pegged as a poster child.  And now she quits. She is done.
One rule in politics is that you must be a boy scout, male or female, a team player. - "the guy that shows up everyday"

Title: Re: Sarah Palin
Post by: Hetzen on July 03, 2009, 06:33:10 PM
Lol at the deleted part. ;)

My American politics is limited to an anti Battlestar Galactica board, which happens to have a politics forum. On which I've spent far too many drunken nights arguing against some GOP friends about the positive (read sarcastic) virtues of Bush, even though I lean more to the conservative side of UK politics. From the dialogue I've had there, they seem to believe she has a back lit glow from where the sun seemingly shines, which at it's root must be some what tongue in cheek, but sometimes I wonder.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin
Post by: matrix2003 on July 03, 2009, 06:38:05 PM
Sad but true!   ;)
Title: Re: Sarah Palin
Post by: Hetzen on July 03, 2009, 07:05:47 PM
Ahh, just heard the lame duck quote. Makes a bit of integral sense now. Good for her. Although, who wants to be a politician next year?
Title: Re: Sarah Palin
Post by: FrankB on July 03, 2009, 07:30:58 PM
uhm.... what is this thread about?
Title: Re: Sarah Palin
Post by: Hetzen on July 03, 2009, 07:44:18 PM
Sarah Palin, last years vice candidate for the world's premiere superpower. Keep up please Frank.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin
Post by: Henry Blewer on July 03, 2009, 07:59:44 PM
I am not so surprised. The Saturday Night Live Character made her look smarter than she really is. I am sure she is a good administrator, but in the 'pull up your sleeves and fight' of world politics... :-\
Title: Re: Sarah Palin
Post by: Jack on July 03, 2009, 08:24:39 PM
Quote from: Hetzen on July 03, 2009, 07:44:18 PM
Sarah Palin, last years vice candidate for the world's premiere superpower. Keep up please Frank.
In franks defense this thread was just started of with 3 smilies and wow how is a person living outside the states supposed to know whats going on. I dont't know what the hell your talking about because i don't get American news in my country I had to google it to find out what you where talking about.
and don't you think it's a little big headed calling yourself a premiere superpower especially considering how far up a certain brown creek your country is at the moment :-\
so next time post a little information about what your talking about such as this
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hAw8YPlfCFbIfCZqqfGJO4t3g9xgD9979LTO0 (http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hAw8YPlfCFbIfCZqqfGJO4t3g9xgD9979LTO0)
its not rocket science
Title: Re: Sarah Palin
Post by: buzzzzz1 on July 03, 2009, 08:44:35 PM
Quote from: wetbanana on July 03, 2009, 08:24:39 PM
Quote from: Hetzen on July 03, 2009, 07:44:18 PM
Sarah Palin, last years vice candidate for the world's premiere superpower. Keep up please Frank.
In franks defense this thread was just started of with 3 smilies and wow how is a person living outside the states supposed to know whats going on. I dont't know what the hell your talking about because i don't get American news in my country I had to google it to find out what you where talking about.
and don't you think it's a little big headed calling yourself a premiere superpower especially considering how far up a certain brown creek your country is at the moment :-\
so next time post a little information about what your talking about such as this
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hAw8YPlfCFbIfCZqqfGJO4t3g9xgD9979LTO0 (http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hAw8YPlfCFbIfCZqqfGJO4t3g9xgD9979LTO0)
its not rocket science

Ummmm.....I think I would be careful bad mouthing the USA.  Is your country over in Afghanistan with our Marines fighting the Taliban in a area that supplies 90 percent of the world's opium that funds the Taliban.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin
Post by: Jack on July 03, 2009, 09:03:41 PM
Quote from: buzzzzz1 on July 03, 2009, 08:44:35 PM
Quote from: wetbanana on July 03, 2009, 08:24:39 PM
Quote from: Hetzen on July 03, 2009, 07:44:18 PM
Sarah Palin, last years vice candidate for the world's premiere superpower. Keep up please Frank.
In franks defense this thread was just started of with 3 smilies and wow how is a person living outside the states supposed to know whats going on. I dont't know what the hell your talking about because i don't get American news in my country I had to google it to find out what you where talking about.
and don't you think it's a little big headed calling yourself a premiere superpower especially considering how far up a certain brown creek your country is at the moment :-\
so next time post a little information about what your talking about such as this
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hAw8YPlfCFbIfCZqqfGJO4t3g9xgD9979LTO0 (http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hAw8YPlfCFbIfCZqqfGJO4t3g9xgD9979LTO0)
its not rocket science

Ummmm.....I think I would be careful bad mouthing the USA.  Is your country over in Afghanistan with our Marines fighting the Taliban in a area that supplies 90 percent of the world's opium that funds the Taliban.
Im not bad mouthing im stating the truth your country is in a financial crisis everyone knows this
and yes my country are peace keeping in Afghanistan and I will probably be joining them in a years time
Title: Re: Sarah Palin
Post by: Hetzen on July 03, 2009, 09:30:10 PM
Wb, I'm English. Not that that means anything, but what you quoted was said by me. Not an American, although if one had said that, you'd be hard pressed to disagree with the statement.

I most sincerely wish you the best of fortune, if/when you find yourself serving out there. I'll only add that I'd be very appreciative of any USAF support I might find myself depending on.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin
Post by: Jack on July 03, 2009, 09:36:35 PM
Quote from: Hetzen on July 03, 2009, 09:30:10 PM
Wb, I'm English. Not that that means anything, but what you quoted was said by me. Not an American, although if one had said that, you'd be hard pressed to disagree with the statement.

I most sincerely wish you the best of fortune, if/when you find yourself serving out there. I'll only add that I'd be very appreciative of any USAF support I might find myself depending on.
no problems ;D
Title: Re: Sarah Palin
Post by: Henry Blewer on July 03, 2009, 10:29:38 PM
I did not support the last Bush administrations foreign policy. It pissed me off when they lied to everyone about the weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Hopefully, Iraq will be a better place for everyone to live when we leave. I am not against the Taliban except that they support bombings across the world. Plus the airplanes flying into our buildings, killing people.
Americans will not stand for this. The truth about American's is that we want to have everyone get along together. If the fighting could stop, the world as a whole could be a much better place, with room for anyone's beliefs and rights as humans.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin
Post by: Cyber-Angel on July 04, 2009, 12:38:46 AM
That is true, but since Iraq never had any weapons of mass destruction the whole justification for the war can be seen and indeed is; illegal under International Law such as invasion of one nations soil by a foreign power, denial of the right by a sovereign state to its rights of self determination and self governance and the use of arms without a formal declaration of war until hostilities had already begun among others.

The longer US troops remain in Iraq the more Presidents of these here United States will have to deal with it, it has already been handed off too its second President and despite what President Obama says I doubt that all of those troops are coming home (I will see what happens, and what happens, happens) and if it gets handed off to President number three then it will be a second Nam we haven't seen the draft yet maybe we will or not who can say.

After all the longer this war goes on the more opportunity there is for the DOD and maybe the NSA and the CIA to test all those new toy's they've had in the works for years form sonic and particle beam weapons to multi-person mind control and the like, after all you don't think they spend $20,000 on a Wrench do you?

There are two kinds of people on the hill people Hawks and Doves not so many doves since 9/11 and since the hill is run by Hawks nowadays and that the defense industry is in so many peoples hip pockets (Yes, Sir they surly are) it maybe some time before Nam Mk II sorry I mean the debacle that is Iraq comes to an end.

Well that's my tow bits worth and by the way I have little faith in either politicians or human nature, and if things end soon fine if not oh well and as Bug's Bunny Said "What's with all the hubbub, bub".  :(

Regards to you.

Cyber-Angel                        
Title: Re: Sarah Palin
Post by: Seth on July 04, 2009, 05:36:30 AM
Quote from: njeneb on July 03, 2009, 10:29:38 PM
The truth about American's is that we want to have everyone get along together. If the fighting could stop, the world as a whole could be a much better place, with room for anyone's beliefs and rights as humans.


with birds everywhere, flowers and we could kiss each other with our tongues deep in each others mouths...
stop dreaming...
there always be war, Humanity was made this way. And as we are all different, we can't truely live with each others without problems.
i will not bad mouth USA people but i must say that your foreign politic does not play the game as the majority of the world want them to.
you may be right about your willing to peace and all, but remember you represent a minority of the world even if you are the strongest country so far ;)
and your kind of civilisation is not what people want to live in... i truely understand that extremism islam is a freakin' ennemy and i join you in this point of view (damn right), and i know the opium part too but... well you know ruling a country with religion and money is never a good idea :) that is also my point of view.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin
Post by: matrix2003 on July 04, 2009, 08:03:50 AM
As usual I have to agree with Seth.  Fighting is sadly part of human nature and no amount of "peace, love and doves" will change that.  Being  American I will go out on a limb and say for the record that the CIA have meddled with probably every government on the planet, all under the cover of "democracy".  Sadly we all suffer because of badly managed foreign policy and we are all perceived as war mongering idiots that start stupid wars, bail out wall street and support high priced pharmaceuticals.  I side with the hippies and believe that you should just leave everyone the hell alone.  Keep your religion to your self, stay out of my wallet, my bedroom and what I choose to do behind my doors is none of your frickin business!

Sarah Palin was another player in this freak show called American politics.  In my opinion she was just what her party wanted.  A talking head in a skirt,  - no substance or intellectual value.
A piece of political ass.  Perfect!   BLAH  -I could vomit.  Her resignation speech sounded like the ramblings of a mentally ill person.  Nothing more!   ;D
Title: Re: Sarah Palin
Post by: Henry Blewer on July 04, 2009, 08:49:35 AM
Actually I agree with Seth also. Peace will never happen. I try to live a environmentally low impact life.
But just because we may disagree with how each person, or nation conducts itself, does not mean we should not try to get along. I think that this economic crisis will help America become less of a hog in the world. Many have had to cut back due to price increases. Wages are not enough for most Americans to continue this rampant outrageous all for me way of life.
I guess what it all really comes down to is; in general people are stupid, anywhere. It's not that some of us use our intellects, many do. It's a conservatism against anything different.   
Title: Re: Sarah Palin
Post by: FrankB on July 04, 2009, 04:15:05 PM
Quote from: Hetzen on July 03, 2009, 07:44:18 PM
Sarah Palin, last years vice candidate for the world's premiere superpower. Keep up please Frank.

I know Sarah Palin. However I think a thread that starts with a name and a couple smileys is totally meaningless. I can't really fathom what these 3 smileys mean. You like Sarah Palin? You find her funny? You belittle her?
Thanks to the link from wetbanana I now know that she resigned. I couldn't care less, but if the initial post said something like "Sarah Palin resigns", I would have known that I don't need to open that thread.

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Sarah Palin
Post by: Hetzen on July 04, 2009, 04:44:00 PM
Yes it was ambiguous, and maybe I should have used a smiley at the end of my post. :)
Title: Re: Sarah Palin
Post by: matrix2003 on July 04, 2009, 04:49:10 PM
Michael Jackson   :o ::) :'(
Title: Re: Sarah Palin
Post by: Hetzen on July 04, 2009, 05:00:21 PM
What happened?
Title: Re: Sarah Palin
Post by: FrankB on July 04, 2009, 05:05:19 PM
ok guys, I'll shut up on this one. Still it was a meaningless post.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin
Post by: efflux on July 17, 2009, 11:23:47 PM
We're in Afghanistan purely to keep the opium going. The Opium all comes out of the area controlled by the British. Nearly all the opium in the world comes from here.

The British also run drug operations from the Cayman Islands (offshore banking haven) which funded the overthrow of the US via the banking system. I think United States of America Corporation is actually registered there or was (until it was put into receivership). This corporation was originally a pure British creation. Now The USA is run by Homeland Security Corporation. Obama is a pure British puppet. Why do you think he is hobnobbing with people like the queen? The biggest shareholder of the Federal Reserve is also the queen's stockbroker. The British control the $. The USA is now simply a British colony. This is not the British people but an operation run from the City of London. It is totally beyond comprehension why the American people put up with this after fighting for independence.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin
Post by: Confusoid on July 18, 2009, 04:33:57 AM
I really hate to get into politics due to no one ever having enough common sense to get things straight (Where is old Abe when you need him) but in all honesty that is a very nutty assertion to make. Where in Afghanistan because the Taliban attacked American soil back in 2001 in case anyone had forgotten all about that. You can make something complex like this up by gathering segments of information to make something like that sound credible and make it look like truth all you want. How is the kool aid by the way?
Title: Re: Sarah Palin
Post by: Seth on July 18, 2009, 04:44:00 AM
Quote from: Confusoid on July 18, 2009, 04:33:57 AM
Where in Afghanistan because the Taliban attacked American soil back in 2001 in case anyone had forgotten all about that.

wrong !

the stupid bitch of Bin Laden attacked the USA (well at least in the official version), not the Afghanistan.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin
Post by: Henry Blewer on July 18, 2009, 08:24:20 AM
That's right Seth. Bin Laden was also responsible for the bombings in Africa during the Clinton years. And the U.S.S. Kole (I think it was the Kole) having a large hole blown in her; which killed three sailors. Then there was 911, the train bombing in Spain. Several bombings in London....
I hope Iraq can get onto it's feet. But, Afganistan and Bin Laden, the USA and the rest of the world are justified pursuing the course. With some help, they may be able to export things beside drugs.

EDIT- I just had a thought. I have expressed some pretty strong opinions here. I hope you still think I could be a nice, relatively sane person?
Title: Re: Sarah Palin
Post by: efflux on July 18, 2009, 10:41:00 PM
I sometimes drop comments like this in forums like this so maybe people can go look into these issues for themselves which is what way more people need to do. You could go on a forum where everybody is talking about this stuff but better to spread these ideas elsewhere.

This is Charles Ponzi:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0a/Ponzi.jpg)

Dollar basically = Ponzi scheme to the tune of hundreds of trillions.

It's the biggest scam ever pulled in history and everyone played their part without questioning it.

Various methods were used to build and extend the scheme as far as possible and certain triggers were used to collapse the scheme.

It's genius but at the same time extremely evil.

Very unfortunately many of our politicians do not even seem to see the game or are quite happy to be bought and paid for.

The last president of the US who was prepared to pull the rug from the scam was Kennedy. No need to explain what happened to him.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin
Post by: efflux on July 18, 2009, 11:09:10 PM
"Even if they never got anything for it, it was cheap at that price."

-Charles Ponzi.
Title: Re: Sarah Palin
Post by: efflux on July 19, 2009, 02:14:42 AM
Countries (corporations) are held in perpetual bankruptcy to the international bankers. World Wars are effective for this but not so easy to start so now giant financial swindles are arranged. Major costly disaster events have to be arranged every 70 years which is how long bankruptcy lasts for - created with the British Bankruptcy Act of 1869 + 70 years = 1939 + 70 years = 2009.