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Support => Terragen Support => Topic started by: buzzzzz on February 15, 2007, 10:46:58 AM

Title: Drop Color
Post by: buzzzzz on February 15, 2007, 10:46:58 AM
It sure would be nice to have the old Option of "Pickup and Drop" in the Surface Layer Color Adjustments. Hint! Hint!
Title: Re: Drop Color
Post by: Volker Harun on February 15, 2007, 10:47:57 AM
Me too are two! Wink!  8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Drop Color
Post by: old_blaggard on February 15, 2007, 11:52:49 AM
Yeah, that's something I've missed many times ;).
Title: Re: Drop Color
Post by: Will on February 15, 2007, 05:44:35 PM
Same here.

Regards,

Will
Title: Re: Drop Color
Post by: Cyber-Angel on February 15, 2007, 08:03:52 PM
Cloud we also have "Randomize" back as well and bring back sliders on the colour picker as it would make colour creation easier.

Regards to you.

Cyber-Angel
Title: Re: Drop Color
Post by: old_blaggard on February 15, 2007, 08:39:42 PM
You can randomize in the clouds' noise function, and I actually think that the randomzing button should stay there.  It seems logical to me that the cloud  node be resposible for creating the clouds and the noise node for creating the noise - when you try to integrate them I think some loss of flexibility will occur.
Title: Re: Drop Color
Post by: Oshyan on February 15, 2007, 10:42:09 PM
You can "Add to custom colors", which is actually more flexible than "pickup" and "drop". It covers the same functionality and more.

The "randomize" color option may return, but then again you could always just randomly click in the color palette window and achieve the same effect, which was not possible in TG 0.9. ;)

- Oshyan
Title: Re: Drop Color
Post by: buzzzzz on February 16, 2007, 12:04:53 AM
Quote from: Oshyan on February 15, 2007, 10:42:09 PM
You can "Add to custom colors", which is actually more flexible than "pickup" and "drop". It covers the same functionality and more.

The "randomize" color option may return, but then again you could always just randomly click in the color palette window and achieve the same effect, which was not possible in TG 0.9. ;)

- Oshyan

I don't know why anyone would want randomized color but I used the "pickup and drop" especially for beach sand and wet sand colors. I could set my dry sand color. pickup it up apply it to the wet sand, lock the slider, and drag it darker to keep the same color tones instead of guessing.
Title: Re: Drop Color
Post by: Oshyan on February 16, 2007, 12:50:34 AM
And is the "Custom colors" system not appropriate for that purpose?

- Oshyan
Title: Re: Drop Color
Post by: Volker Harun on February 16, 2007, 04:09:07 AM
For me the custom colours work - somehow.
Picking it and changing a bit the saturation for example.

But I can only get the default custom colour work. I do not know how to reach the other empty fields.

Volker
Title: Re: Drop Color
Post by: buzzzzz on February 16, 2007, 11:32:20 AM
Quote from: Volker Harun on February 16, 2007, 04:09:07 AM
For me the custom colours work - somehow.
Picking it and changing a bit the saturation for example.

But I can only get the default custom color work. I do not know how to reach the other empty fields.

Volker

I guess I need to explore it further because every time I add a color to custom colors and then go back to fine it it's gone and have to start all over? I must admit I haven't played with it that much but will.

Just checked it again and the area that says define custom colors is not active. So I can't save custom colors? Hence, my request for the old color options. Unless some kind person would please tell me how to enable the "define custom colors" option in this color picker. As of now I have to write down the RGB values of each color I want to save and type them in the color chooser when needed.  Oh well, I still say the other way was much better.
Title: Re: Drop Color
Post by: buzzzzz on February 16, 2007, 11:41:41 AM
Quote from: Oshyan on February 16, 2007, 12:50:34 AM
And is the "Custom colors" system not appropriate for that purpose?

- Oshyan

NO!  ;)
Title: Re: Drop Color
Post by: Volker Harun on February 16, 2007, 11:45:42 AM
Well, I got this far,

Below the fields where to type the color-values is a button to add this color, when using the shift-key while clicking it goes for second, third, etc.
But with the first colour I have to fill all fields, with the second one all fields-1 and so on. Else everything gets overwritten  ::) ::)

As soon as I restart TG2TP, the saved colours are gone.  ;D ;D

Volker Harun  ;)
Title: Re: Drop Color
Post by: buzzzzz on February 16, 2007, 11:48:38 AM
Quote from: Volker Harun on February 16, 2007, 11:45:42 AM
Well, I got this far,

Below the fields where to type the color-values is a button to add this color, when using the shift-key while clicking it goes for second, third, etc.
But with the first colour I have to fill all fields, with the second one all fields-1 and so on. Else everything gets overwritten  ::) ::)

As soon as I restart TG2TP, the saved colours are gone.  ;D ;D

Volker Harun  ;)


Exactly! I just tried the color picked in windows display desktop GUI for toolbars, active windows, etc. etc. and it is the same.
Title: Re: Drop Color
Post by: neon22 on February 16, 2007, 05:39:57 PM
its something the tg2 people have to setup in the registry to get the color picker to behave for their app.
In last project, I so didn't like it, we built our own. (getting tired of doing that)
best implementation out there, as an example, is the Gimp colour picker . IMHO
Title: Re: Drop Color
Post by: buzzzzz on February 16, 2007, 06:11:53 PM
Update: You can add 16 colors to the custom colors which should be plenty for Nature Landscape coloring.
Then if you want a child layer of the same color range only lighter or Darker then all you have to do is choose your starting color from the custom colors. Then use the Color Slider in the surface settings dialog to Lighten or Darken. So I guess   that's not so bad now that I took time to work with it. Only thing is I haven't rebooted to go back and see if my chosen custom colors are still there. Will report back later on that. Rather Colorful Subject, Eh?  ;)
Title: Re: Drop Color
Post by: jo on February 17, 2007, 12:12:50 AM
Hi,

You can drag and drop colours from colour button to colour button. Someone mentioned doing a sand and wet sand variation. Let's say you create a surface layer for each. Set the colour for the dry sand one. Now double click the node for the other layer in the network view, which will open a floating window for that layer. Click and hold the mouse on the colour button for the first layer ( Colour tab, button in the Apply colour row ) and then start dragging. You should see a little colour chip. Drag that chip over to the colour button on the floating window and drop it. The colour for that layer will be changed to the one you dragged and dropped. Click it to open the colour picker and change it to a suitable colour for wet sand.

If the colour button you want to drop onto is on a different tab than the one currently in the front then you can drag over the tab labels and the tabs should switch, so you can get to the one you want.

As to custom colours on Windows, I'm not sure what's up there, I'll have to check it out.

Regards,

Jo
Title: Re: Drop Color
Post by: Volker Harun on February 17, 2007, 06:59:07 AM
Hello Jo!
I might want to give you a hug (or two?)!  ;D :D :D ;)

Volker Harun
Title: Re: Drop Color
Post by: buzzzzz on February 17, 2007, 04:23:40 PM
No Kiss but a Big Thanks Jo!
Title: Re: Drop Color
Post by: Will on February 17, 2007, 04:26:11 PM
Jo, long time no see! Thanks for the info, keep up the good work buddy!

Regards,

Will
Title: Re: Drop Color
Post by: Oshyan on February 18, 2007, 03:33:51 PM
The Custom Colors will populate sequentially on each press of the "Add to Custom Colors" button. It adds the color you currently have selected. If you want to save a color to a specific place in the custom colors you need to select the slot *before* defining the color by clicking on it, then adjust color and press "Add to custom colors". It will replace the color in the last-selected custom color box. I agree this is not entirely convenient, but given the sequential custom color functionality it seems workable. This is really just the standard Windows color picker I believe.

As far as saving the colors between reboots, well you had asked for simply something that duplicates the old TG color pickup/drop functionality, not something more advanced. The custom colors are not saved between sessions but then neither were the pickup/drop colors as far as I recall. Saving across sessions may be something we can setup, I'm not sure, but if so I'm sure we'll do that.

- Oshyan
Title: Re: Drop Color
Post by: jo on February 19, 2007, 07:15:40 AM
Hi,

Oshyan is right that the standard OS colour picker is used. It just so happens that the Windows one is a bit sucky and the Mac one is really good. It has a colour wheel, greyscale/RGB/CMYK/HSB sliders, searchable swatches with named items, something which lets select colour from an image you load and a cool crayon box ( well, I like it anyway ). It has an eye dropper type tool which lets you pick a colour from anywhere on the screen. It also has a whole lot of custom colour slots which are system wide, available to all applications.

Anyway, I've checked it out and I should be able to make custom colours persist across TG2 sessions on Windows without too much trouble. One thing I've always wanted to do, in fact I've wanted to do it since TG v0.9, is make a palette and swatches arrangement where you can define swatches which you can save and share with others, if you so desire. For example, you might have a really good selection of earth tones, or colours of the lesser spotted alpine bluegrass across seasons or whatever. Something for the future.

Regards,

Jo
Title: Re: Drop Color
Post by: rcallicotte on February 19, 2007, 08:00:48 AM
 ;D

Quote from: jo on February 19, 2007, 07:15:40 AM
...One thing I've always wanted to do, in fact I've wanted to do it since TG v0.9, is make a palette and swatches arrangement where you can define swatches which you can save and share with others, if you so desire. For example, you might have a really good selection of earth tones, or colours of the lesser spotted alpine bluegrass across seasons or whatever. Something for the future.

Regards,

Jo
Title: Re: Drop Color
Post by: Will on February 19, 2007, 08:12:07 AM
Acauly I'm dootling in PS right now and it occured to me how helpful that would be I would really love to see this Jo.

Regards,

Will
Title: Re: Drop Color
Post by: buzzzzz on February 19, 2007, 09:45:10 AM
Now You're Cooking!!!    :o
Title: Re: Drop Color
Post by: Harvey Birdman on March 29, 2007, 11:46:00 AM
It's simple as pie to store the custom colors as DWORDS in the windows registry between sessions (as I'm sure you know) - I do it in several of my apps. It would be a nice enhancement to persist them; importing/exporting the custom palette would be sweet, too.
Title: Re: Drop Colour
Post by: Cyber-Angel on March 29, 2007, 09:31:22 PM
You know the colour picker I really like is the one in Photoshop which has a nice large colour selection area to it and it is easy to find the exact colour required, I would really like the colour selection area of TG2's colour picker to made as large as the one in Photoshop vary important when selection the exact shade of grey you require.

One small feature request that slider on the right of the colour selector at the moment dose not automatically move when you import RGB colour values and so the colour you get is not correct, could you please change this in the windows version.

Regards to you.

Cyber-Angel 
Title: Re: Drop Color
Post by: RealUser on April 02, 2007, 09:11:01 AM
Jo, this sounds pretty useful. How about creating color ranges like in StrataGen2?
Title: Re: Drop Color
Post by: bigben on April 02, 2007, 09:56:01 AM
Quote from: jo on February 19, 2007, 07:15:40 AM
....
Anyway, I've checked it out and I should be able to make custom colours persist across TG2 sessions on Windows without too much trouble.

This has been done. If you look in C:\Documents and Settings\USERNAME\Application Data\Planetside Software\Terragen 2 you'll now find a file called customPickerColours.dat You can transfer this to another PC if you want the same custom colours on each machine.