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Title: Image Map Shader
Post by: Largent on May 03, 2010, 01:30:21 AM
I can't seem to figure out how to apply image map shaders correctly to make a hurricane. Could anybody provide me with an idiot-proof explanation of what settings and steps I should use to do this? I have the nodes hooked up correctly I believe and I have the image projected through a camera that is pointing down at the planet. The preview window is blank and when I render I get cloud formations but they are in no particular shape.
Title: Re: Image Map Shader
Post by: Oshyan on May 03, 2010, 02:42:16 AM
Providing a screenshot of your node network or a TGD of what you've done so far would be a great help in trying to advise you. The process should be fairly simple however. First, to make sure your image is actually being applied correctly, it makes sense to hook it up to a Surface Layer or other planetary texture shader as a Blend Shader. This way you can see if the projection is even correctly configured. If it is, then simply attach it as the Blend Shader for your cloud's Density Shader node and you should get your desired results fairly easily.

- Oshyan
Title: Re: Image Map Shader
Post by: Largent on May 11, 2010, 12:34:23 AM
Heres an example of what I've been trying without the actual file of the image I'm using (its too big)
Title: Re: Image Map Shader
Post by: Oshyan on May 12, 2010, 12:11:43 AM
That TGD appears to work fine to me, you just need an image that is setup correctly to act as a mask. Without seeing what you're using, it's hard to say what's going wrong. That being said, you might want to increase Coverage Adjust on the Density tab of the Density Fractal for each cloud layer. This will give you more clear coverage in the masked area, and you can adjust from there for best effect.

- Oshyan
Title: Re: Image Map Shader
Post by: Largent on May 12, 2010, 01:41:45 AM
I've only tried it with a sample image provided in another thread:

http://forums.planetside.co.uk/index.php?topic=9652.msg101242#msg101242

I'll give it another go and see what happens...
Title: Re: Image Map Shader
Post by: Largent on May 12, 2010, 02:03:24 AM
Its working now, but I'd love comments on how to improve it.
Title: Re: Image Map Shader
Post by: TheBlackHole on May 13, 2010, 08:16:39 PM
Would it kill you to post a render? ;D
Title: Re: Image Map Shader
Post by: Largent on May 16, 2010, 04:44:30 PM
Quote from: TheBlackHole on May 13, 2010, 08:16:39 PM
Would it kill you to post a render? ;D

During finals? It might. Why take the risk?

I'll fiddle with it a little more and get a render up soon.
Title: Re: Image Map Shader
Post by: Largent on May 17, 2010, 06:02:38 PM
Needs a lot of work. all advice is greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Image Map Shader
Post by: TheBlackHole on May 17, 2010, 07:57:53 PM
1. Turn up the cloud color. It should be light gray or white.
2. Decrease Edge Sharpness.
3. Increase Coverage Adjust. If it looks like crap, decrease it, first to what you have now, then if that doesn't work, turn it down further.
Title: Re: Image Map Shader
Post by: Largent on May 18, 2010, 09:04:00 PM
I've decided to take a different approach here. I came across a beautiful image by nvseal: http://nvseal.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d18655k
I decided to take the creative aspect of the technique out and I'm just trying to recreate his image. These are the first two attempts I mage. I've done some test renders of a third version that I'll give a full render of (hopefully tomorrow). Once again, I deserve no real credit for any of this, all I've done if fiddle with the numbers on my computer.
Title: Re: Image Map Shader
Post by: Largent on May 18, 2010, 09:04:18 PM
and number two
Title: Re: Image Map Shader
Post by: TheBlackHole on May 18, 2010, 10:15:50 PM
The second one is great. Add a little depth (Cloud depth, cloud layer settings).
Title: Re: Image Map Shader
Post by: Largent on May 19, 2010, 04:01:36 PM
Alright heres the third an final version I'll do. There are still a bunch of minor tweaks I would like and it could benefit from some work in PS but I accomplished what I set out to do, so here it is.
Title: Re: Image Map Shader
Post by: Goms on May 19, 2010, 05:41:41 PM
Just a thought... as the basic form of a hurricane system should be a multiple golden spiral, there should be a way to build the underlaying form out of functions, right?
I'm not that good at math in this point, but i posit there is a way. :)
could be a nice challenge, right?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_spiral (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_spiral)
Title: Re: Image Map Shader
Post by: Largent on May 19, 2010, 06:05:47 PM
I'm no good with function nodes being very new to TG, but it seems as though the math wouldn't be that hard if you could just orient a couple different parametric equations, granted the inner workings of the function nodes could make this quite an undertaking.