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Title: WIP-Iceland
Post by: yossam on November 26, 2014, 01:31:54 AM
Been working on a couple of different scenes.............. ::)
Title: Re: WIP-Iceland
Post by: choronr on November 26, 2014, 02:54:27 AM
Looking good. Maybe a stream meandering down the low level?
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Post by: Dune on November 26, 2014, 07:21:17 AM
That would be a good idea, either by an image map planted there, or by painted shader.
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Post by: TheBadger on November 27, 2014, 03:03:38 AM
I like it. It made me think of these two image. Perhaps they will inspire you. But if not just ignore me.
http://staticmass.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/features_towers.jpg
http://static.squarespace.com/static/51c7fb7ee4b0e3abd3bd4121/51cce64fe4b014f2c6e67a53/534a0c53e4b0589a6dcdb1a2/1403602369490/_DSC0772.jpg
Title: Re: WIP-Iceland
Post by: yossam on November 27, 2014, 06:55:21 AM
Some changes.....................
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Post by: Hannes on November 27, 2014, 07:45:20 AM
Looks a bit like a classic-TG render. Nice mood.
Title: Re: WIP-Iceland
Post by: yossam on November 28, 2014, 07:46:43 AM
More.................
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Post by: Dune on November 28, 2014, 10:02:20 AM
That is a nice addition. Maybe you should keep the mist only in the background and lower your POV to make it more dramatic?
Title: Re: WIP-Iceland
Post by: yossam on November 28, 2014, 05:53:02 PM
Changed the POV..............
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Post by: choronr on November 28, 2014, 06:12:24 PM
That is much better. Adding a few steam vents maybe?
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Post by: DannyG on November 28, 2014, 09:05:41 PM
Lower camera placement is much better.
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Post by: Oshyan on November 29, 2014, 03:35:03 AM
Agree, I quite like the new camera angle.

- Oshyan
Title: Re: WIP-Iceland
Post by: choronr on November 29, 2014, 03:49:28 AM
Maybe change your lake into a hot mineral lake ...maybe a light bluish/white luminous color. Add steam vents with some billowing white clouds coming out of the ground in various places.
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Post by: Dune on November 29, 2014, 06:58:50 AM
Great POV. My next step would be to add some strata to the rocks, masked by PF (50/200/10), try a denser, but thin smoke columns out of the craterlike  far mountain, change the clouds, or leave them out for the time being, and work on a rocky, dark shore.
Title: Re: WIP-Iceland
Post by: yossam on November 29, 2014, 05:00:40 PM
Got a lot of work left to do................ ???


Now comes the really time consuming part...............creating a Norseman horde.  ;)
Title: Re: WIP-Iceland
Post by: archonforest on November 29, 2014, 05:44:30 PM
Wow very nice one! ;)
Title: Re: WIP-Iceland
Post by: Lady of the Lake on November 29, 2014, 05:55:58 PM
Does the left hand mountain look out of place compared to the others?  The others are mostly horizontal and it is vertical in strata.  Liking the shoreline and lighting a lot.
Title: Re: WIP-Iceland
Post by: yossam on November 29, 2014, 05:59:08 PM
Still got work to do on the displacements..........good eye though.  :P


When you gonna update your post...............it was really good, Pea.
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Post by: TheBadger on November 29, 2014, 08:33:09 PM
Wow that is way more dramatic than from what it was at the start! Great set up. Just needs tweaking now.
Title: Re: WIP-Iceland
Post by: yossam on November 30, 2014, 04:43:43 AM
Gonna take a break.............getting a headache.  :'(


I already thought of a title..............gonna keep it to myself until I'm "finished" with this.
Title: Re: WIP-Iceland
Post by: choronr on November 30, 2014, 05:15:31 AM
Richard, you have a good one going here.
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Post by: Dune on November 30, 2014, 07:30:43 AM
You're doing well. The strata was a bit too much indeed, you could restrict that too minimum slope or higher altitudes, and PF, for some strata here and there, but not near the coast. The black rocks need algae and a wet line!
Title: Re: WIP-Iceland
Post by: yossam on November 30, 2014, 07:42:33 PM
One more time................ :)
Title: Re: WIP-Iceland
Post by: yossam on November 30, 2014, 10:21:37 PM
Happier with the steam............now if someone could tell me why there is a "ring of fire" on the sail I would appreciate it.  :o
Title: Re: WIP-Iceland
Post by: Dune on December 01, 2014, 06:57:24 AM
It probably has to do with the vertices on the sail model. What if you up translucency? Or uncheck premultiply color?

You should warp the vertical cloud (by a warp shader in x and Z direction). My opinion, at least.
Title: Re: WIP-Iceland
Post by: yossam on December 01, 2014, 08:48:56 PM
Twerking.............sorry tweaking.  :P


Probably the last update for awhile............gonna be deep inside Poser. I have a few Vikings to make.  :-\
Title: Re: WIP-Iceland
Post by: inkydigit on December 01, 2014, 10:51:36 PM
Lighting here is super... Looking forward to see what your twerking tweaking produces!
:)
J
Title: Re: WIP-Iceland
Post by: Dune on December 02, 2014, 07:58:48 AM
So what did you do to remove the sail artifacts?
Title: Re: WIP-Iceland
Post by: yossam on December 02, 2014, 04:33:22 PM
Actually I didn't do anything................I think it was a sign from the gods.  ::)
Title: Re: WIP-Iceland
Post by: TheBadger on December 02, 2014, 10:28:09 PM
I really really like the blacks on the right. That is really rich and dramatic. I also like a lot the transition from darks to lights across the whole image.

My only thing about this scene now is it feels like it is missing lots of little details. little stones and color variations and such. Perhaps some fine erosion as well. A braided stream through the valley and emptying into the lake may be effective here too.
Title: Re: WIP-Iceland
Post by: DannyG on December 03, 2014, 12:31:22 AM
Lots of drama, cool stuff man !!
Title: Re: WIP-Iceland
Post by: yossam on December 06, 2014, 08:42:01 PM
First one..............lot more to do.  ;D
Title: Re: WIP-Iceland
Post by: yossam on December 08, 2014, 02:03:30 AM
One more.............. ;D
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Post by: Kadri on December 08, 2014, 02:08:53 AM

Looks funny :)
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Post by: TheBadger on December 08, 2014, 02:27:17 AM
Could be good. Just don't put their heads up their butts on this one  ;) Something tells me humor won't read as very real  ;D
Title: Re: WIP-Iceland
Post by: yossam on December 11, 2014, 02:46:57 AM
Last one for now.................. ;D
Title: Re: WIP-Iceland
Post by: Upon Infinity on December 11, 2014, 03:48:55 AM
I've been ignoring the Iceland posts since I wasn't participating and thought I'd check in.  Looks like a really good scene is shaping up.  I really like the greens.
Title: Re: WIP-Iceland
Post by: yossam on December 19, 2014, 03:17:40 PM
Small update................new pooter has been ordered. Won't see it until first week in January, just in time to render the final............ ;D
Title: Re: WIP-Iceland
Post by: Dune on December 19, 2014, 03:34:54 PM
It's really getting very nice, Richard! I only don't think you should have the vertical cloud in the crater.
Title: Re: WIP-Iceland
Post by: yossam on December 19, 2014, 11:17:20 PM
Worked on the "steam" again..............I think it looks better. What say you?


 :-\
Title: Re: WIP-Iceland
Post by: choronr on December 20, 2014, 12:05:57 AM
I think it looks good; but, maybe even better if light were shining directly on it. I'm referring to the lowest steam (clouds), not the effect above the reddish glow.
Title: Re: WIP-Iceland
Post by: Dune on December 20, 2014, 10:17:39 AM
It's too vertically stretched, like lightbeams. I'd loose them or put a bunch of normal clouds puffs there.
Title: Re: WIP-Iceland
Post by: yossam on December 20, 2014, 06:37:55 PM
One more time................. :o
Title: Re: WIP-Iceland
Post by: WASasquatch on December 20, 2014, 07:44:27 PM
One more time................. :o

Wooow so lush and dreamy. I just want to get off that longship and walk the fields.
Title: Re: WIP-Iceland
Post by: yossam on December 20, 2014, 08:58:04 PM
Last one for today..............I'm gonna try soft shadows on the next one..................see how much render time goes up.  ;D
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Post by: Lady of the Lake on December 20, 2014, 09:07:31 PM
Looks very good.
Title: Re: WIP-Iceland
Post by: DannyG on December 21, 2014, 03:24:17 PM
Steam is looking much better
Title: Re: WIP-Iceland
Post by: yossam on December 22, 2014, 05:23:35 PM
Soft shadows enabled............render time almost doubled. Still not too bad.............still not finished.   ???
Title: Re: WIP-Iceland
Post by: Lady of the Lake on December 22, 2014, 05:32:40 PM
Somehow you got the shadow place on the sail again....not as bad as in the beginning but it is there now. 
Title: Re: WIP-Iceland
Post by: Kadri on December 22, 2014, 05:39:17 PM

Looks good Yossam .
Curious about the next version. And please can you give the boat a nudge to the right side :D
Title: Re: WIP-Iceland
Post by: yossam on December 22, 2014, 06:46:31 PM
I don't know where the shadow is coming from........... ???


Kadri, I moved the boat to the left to try to get rid of the shadow...........as you can see, didn't work. Back to the drawing board.  :'(
Title: Re: WIP-Iceland
Post by: Kadri on December 22, 2014, 07:30:55 PM
If you disable the light behind the mountain does the shadow go away?
Title: Re: WIP-Iceland
Post by: yossam on December 22, 2014, 07:41:28 PM
I think it might have to do with the translucency setting on the sail in combination with GI settings...........it doesn't show up every time I render. Playin............TBC.  ;D
Title: Re: WIP-Iceland
Post by: yossam on December 22, 2014, 10:18:37 PM
Almost got rid of it................. ::)
Title: Re: WIP-Iceland
Post by: Lady of the Lake on December 23, 2014, 01:41:14 AM
Much better.
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Post by: choronr on December 23, 2014, 03:15:01 AM
Looking very good.
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Post by: Dune on December 23, 2014, 07:05:09 AM
It's almost there, Richard! Were will the Vikings go? On the ship? Or will they be waiting on shore? There's one more thing; maybe cool the light a little (it's very warm overall), and maybe give the rocks a little more variety in displacement. If they would have come from that mountain, they'd be a bit more rugged. Perhaps. Just an idea.
Title: Re: WIP-Iceland
Post by: yossam on December 23, 2014, 07:11:07 AM
Vikings will be both on the ship and shore the way I see it at the moment...........that is always subject to change.  :-\  You are right about the rocks........they would be rougher than what they are now.  ;D
Title: Re: WIP-Iceland
Post by: Oshyan on December 24, 2014, 12:56:02 AM
Am I the only one who is not seeing a lot of difference from the Soft Shadows? This might be a situation where you can avoid using it and save some render time. Just something to consider...

- Oshyan
Title: Re: WIP-Iceland
Post by: yossam on December 24, 2014, 01:30:06 AM
I think maybe you are right Oshyan. Render time is just in the 2 hour range with the soft shadows enabled so its no biggie. Adding the Vikings shouldn't send the time soaring.................but it's an option if needed.


Anywho...............worked on the map for the sail (trying to get rid of the donut from hell), roughed up the rocks, added some deer, and dropped the sun 1 degree. And last but not least............cooled it off.  8)
Title: Re: WIP-Iceland
Post by: choronr on December 24, 2014, 03:22:46 AM
Richard, this is looking fabulous. 
Title: Re: WIP-Iceland
Post by: Dune on December 24, 2014, 07:43:11 AM
OK, here's me again with some comment: I think it's cooled a little too much now, and you have to check the size of those reindeer, they look enormous in comparison to the ship. Or the ship is way too small. How big were these ships, 20m? Dear are quite small in real life. So, off to work again, Richard, sorry  ;)
Title: Re: WIP-Iceland
Post by: yossam on December 26, 2014, 08:54:48 PM
The deer are at scale to the ship.............see if you can find them.  ::)
Title: Re: WIP-Iceland
Post by: choronr on December 26, 2014, 09:30:05 PM
Looks like a winner Richard; and yes, I do see the deer. Be sure the final render is in a large size.
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Post by: DannyG on December 26, 2014, 10:13:23 PM
Great shadows.
Title: Re: WIP-Iceland
Post by: yossam on December 27, 2014, 03:57:08 AM
Some adjustments.................... :-\
Title: Re: WIP-Iceland
Post by: Dune on December 27, 2014, 07:51:13 AM
It's gathering momentum!
Title: Re: WIP-Iceland
Post by: masonspappy on December 28, 2014, 08:47:13 AM
Looking better and better. Could the boat be lightened up just a tad? (Or is the deep shadow part of the effect you're after?)
Title: Re: WIP-Iceland
Post by: yossam on December 28, 2014, 03:29:02 PM
Render time was almost 8 hours................ ???
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Post by: j meyer on December 28, 2014, 03:53:20 PM
Aaah,the dreaded norsemen rolling in.

A question,if you don't mind:what is that structure on top of the
foreground hill/mountain to the right?
Title: Re: WIP-Iceland
Post by: choronr on December 28, 2014, 03:54:12 PM
Perfection; very good!
Title: Re: WIP-Iceland
Post by: yossam on December 28, 2014, 04:03:51 PM
The structure is a large horn used for greetings or warnings..............whatever the case might be.  ;D
Title: Re: WIP-Iceland
Post by: j meyer on December 28, 2014, 04:27:47 PM
 8) Nice detail.
Keep going Richard!
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Post by: Dune on December 29, 2014, 07:25:38 AM
It's really coming together, Richard. There's one thing you should take a look at; there's a stretched piece of fake stone near the ship's bow. A too sharp mask or fuzzy zone maybe? And I would still do some work on the rocks, make them more irregular and without the tiny displacements. Maybe a simple billowed or voronoi noise with sizes 0.5/2/0.01 and a displacement of 0.5 and offset of 0.1. See what happens then.
Title: Re: WIP-Iceland
Post by: yossam on December 29, 2014, 05:27:19 PM
Worked on the rocks again, changed the POV just a tad, tweaked the maps on the ship. I'm thru unless someone can give me a reason not to be.  ;D
Title: Re: WIP-Iceland
Post by: Dune on December 30, 2014, 08:04:29 AM
It's looking really good, Richard, but there's one or two things I would do to it. Hesitate to mention them, but I still do. See what you do with it, it's a great entry anyway.
1. Reduce the huge stones at the coast; they actually quite large (5-10m?), which isn't too realistic. You should (or better said; I would) try stones of max 1meter and a narrower line. And perhaps a very few bigger ones.
2. Take the warp out of the foam fractal, and stretch the fractal a bit (1.5 or so)  in the travelling direction.
Title: Re: WIP-Iceland
Post by: yossam on December 31, 2014, 03:17:40 AM
Once more into the breach................. ::)
Title: Re: WIP-Iceland
Post by: Dune on December 31, 2014, 06:42:43 AM
Try a painted mask for your wake. You can locate it by adding a transform shader, and taking the ship's location and angle.

The rocks are so much better now!
Title: Re: WIP-Iceland
Post by: yossam on January 01, 2015, 03:16:12 AM
Worked on the rocks some more...........also the wake. Pretty happy with the pic. For all intents and purposes this is finished. I still got a month to tinker............ ;D


My new rig will be here next week................gotta render it one more time just for the hell of it.  :-*
Title: Re: WIP-Iceland
Post by: choronr on January 01, 2015, 03:54:10 AM
Looking very good. And, congrats on the new rig.
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Post by: Dune on January 01, 2015, 07:39:03 AM
This looks very good.
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Post by: Hannes on January 06, 2015, 04:10:06 PM
Beautiful! Looks very Lord-Of-The-Ringish!
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Post by: TheBadger on January 06, 2015, 05:10:39 PM
wonderful consistent render from one side to the other. Very deep and rich color and value!
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Post by: inkydigit on January 06, 2015, 06:17:25 PM
A really epic scene, they look like they are on a mission!
massive sense of scale...
keep on!
:)
Jason