T2 Free not running on vista 64 ultimate..

[maxd]

well i tries to load, gets to about 17MB in task manager, then stays there... and fails to load the program. it did work briefly. but ive done a fresh install of windows, so a few updates coming through and wonder if anyone else has had any problems running T2.? and wonder if the updates are having an effect.

now up to SP1 and still no luck running T2. ive gopt UAC off, run as administrator and in XP compatibility mode but still no luck

would appreciate any help trying to run this great looking package..

Tony

[Oshyan]

I've just tested the free version on Vista x64 Business and it's working fine. Do you get the splash screen at all? Do you have the latest graphics card (and other hardware) drivers?

- Oshyan

[neuspadrin]

My ultimate 64 runs just fine, no need for any compatibility modes or anything.  Just double click and go.

[maxd]

hi,
yeah im running a gt9600 with latest drivers..

it did work for a while, like an hour while i played, exited and then nothing.. its a fresh install of vista, and is still doing updates automatically, so i guessed it was an update that fried it.. it tries to load, but sticks at 17megs and stays there..

ive read aelswhere that it running on vista 64, so i cant explain why not on mine...

its not firewall or anything like antivirus as they were all on the go when i installed T2

[BangelOz]

Is TG2 the only Application installed on it? Are there any others like Games or so, do they run without Problems? Ist there new Hardware in it?

[neuspadrin]

and you have tried uninstalling/reinstalling?

[maxd]

@neuspadrin -  yeah uninstalled and reinstalled, still no luck.

@bangelOZ, i got a lot of other 3d apps and such, all working fine... no new hardware, just a fresh install of vista.. and everything else...only TG2 i have a problem with..

still stuck at 17,296KB loaded in task manager...

[BangelOz]

Because of it's hanging my first thought was there could be a problem with the RAM. To be sure it's not you can check it on errors with Memtest 86+.
You said it worked sometimes or once - after a reboot? Have you tried a new install on an other location than C:\Program Files....?
You said other 3d apps are running fine - and a fresh install: Have you tried TG2 before installing other programs?
You could open the windows taskmanager and look for services of programs who could make problems and end the services.
Closing not needed Symbols in the Taskbar belongs to this too.
Maybe the Virusscanner makes trouble but i don't think so.
If that isn't successful, perhaps any other program or game with his copy-protection-routines deep in the system makes trouble. Uninstall may work - or leave the protect-content.

...That's hard. I know similar things from my gaming-pc(but not with TG2) wich forced me to run the rendersoft on an other  'clean, not overloaded machine' or a dual-boot on the old with an own system only for rendering programs.

[maxd]

@bangeloz,

yeah im gonna have to turn off services to find the culprit  i think, the only game i got is gear of war, that has a licence issue in that the date has to be set back to jan the 25th or before, a known problem, perhaps changing this has fried T2, will try an install on anotehr drive to see if that works.

thanks for the info guy,  appreciate the help,

[BangelOz]

Hope that TG2 will run better in future. I don't run GoW on PC, but I've read there is out Patch #3 which should correct this Signature problem with the date. Have you tried that?

[maxd]

hey, not heard of the patch#3, will look into that one... great stuff

tried turning off some services via task manager, but T2 still will not run.. will check the RAM tomorrow,  but as im not having any other issues with other software, dont think its that... but will kepp you posted..

thanks for all your help

[Oshyan]

This is a very strange problem. I think trying an install to another directory would be useful. You should do a full uninstall and check Program Files and Documents and Settings for any traces of the application afterward, before doing the install to a new directory. Also make sure you re-download the install file as well. I presume you're using the free version, right?

- Oshyan

[jo]

Hi,

Try running tgdcli. Can't quite remember how things are installed on Windows, but if you go to the installation folder it should be there. It will open a console window and print some information. It would be interesting to see how far it gets. Actually, the console window may close when the app exits. Oshyan, could you give instructions for starting it from the command prompt? I think it might stick around then.

Regards,

Jo

[neuspadrin]

It doesn't auto close for me, not if you just double click it normally as it will run graphics mode and wont close the console until the tg2 window is also closed.

If that fails:

In vista x64, assuming tg2 is installed into program files x86.

Start (well.. orb thing) --> in the box you can type in at bottom to search, type command prompt, it should show cmd or command prompt in their, click that.  now type (with the quotes):

"C:\Program Files (x86)\Planetside Software\Terragen 2 Free Edition\tgdcli.exe" >> C:\tg2log.txt

Then upload the tg2log.txt to the forum (located on your base directory of just C:\)
That way planetside can get a good look at what those messages mean and get a clue where it stops.

[maxd]

thanks neuspadrin, will give that a go..
funny, ive been able to load it a couple of times today, had fun playing with it.. but at other times it will not load as above..

something funny going on...

edit got this when T2 actually loaded

@oshyan and Jo : yes it's the free version..

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couldn't get anything to happen with neuspadrin's example above I just ran tgcli  and then tg... works sometimes, not others...