I for one am glad this crap is over!

[Seth]

A wall, a rifle, a lot of bullets and all the politics waiting in a looooong line to get their headshot.
That should be a good start for a brand new way of doing politics for the people.

We don't even need bullets and rifles, which are pretty expensive. Ropes, knives and Guillotine might do the job.
Or put them in a line waiting to get butchered in an abattoir. I can clearly see my french gvt or your US gvt as dog's and cat's food.

[Andrew March]

Jed Bartlett for president!

[efflux]

as the wage slaves loose more liberty in the coming years.

This part is important. In the United States Of America the people were not slaves except when they brought over slaves from Africa - a convenient way to get slaves since the people who settled in the US weren't. The civil war did not free the slaves, it made everyone a slave. As a citizens of the United States (not the United States Of America) you are property of this US corporation in Washington DC. Washington DC runs the United States Corporation not the United States of America (the country). Obama is basically CEO of United States Corporation. This is how they got around your constitution which is now the constitution of the US corporation not for the people who essentially now own no property and have no rights since they wilfully became citizens of this US corporation. The corporation now assigned to run America is Homeland Security to finalise the cleaning out of any idea about freedom i.e any remaining ideas about rights to property, free speech, guns etc. Slaves are not allowed to have these things.

This is the same in all western countries it's just that some never had any freedoms in the first place whereas Americans did.

[efflux]

Islam is not a enemy of America or terrorists or whatever they dream up. That's all a red herring to grind America down or fight useful wars for the enemy. The real enemy of America is the same as it always has been. The British oligarchical establishment of Monarchs, Bankers and their corporations and offshoots such as Wall Street. They despise America because they believe they have the divine right to rule.

Obama is a lesser evil than Romney as well because Romney is backed by the Neocons and Zionist warmongers. Better slow economic collapse that sure fire bet of destruction with even more wars. I'm not saying they won't come but they were guaranteed with Romney.

[TheBadger]

@ Seth
I think I would consider feeding politicians to animals a form of cruelty, to the animal.
How would you like it if someone made you eat human shit? 

[efflux]

Check this out. A lot of this stuff I already knew. The rest I'm sure is probably fact as well:

http://fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/40-outrageous-facts-most-people-dont-know/25650/

Same stuff in other countries of course.

Most people are living in total cloud cuckoo land as to how things work. It's so corrupt that modern western civilisation has virtually no chance of survival. You have to go back to the dark ages to find a situation like present. I think 15 million people died then in Europe. The Dark Ages were the result of similar corrupt Oligarchs running the show except the present circumstances are much worse. Europe will lose hundreds of millions of people this time. That's just Europe.

[efflux]

I don't think the US Corporation even really exists anymore. It's all globalised. The people have been collateralised as slaves for debts to some global entity like the UN or a subsidiary like the IMF just as that article says. The US military does not answer to Congress. It takes it's orders from the UN. That's a definite fact now which has been more or less admitted. The last countries that need taken out because they are not under the global banking control are exactly the ones being attacked. Russia is also a target. That's why Puppet Romney kept on about them. Russia is now undergoing military buildup. China I don't know about but should the US come down on the side of Israel it's probably goodbye to the US. Israel is probably done for no matter what. If you wanted to start world war III take your navy into the Straits of Hormuz as sitting ducks for Russia and Iran. Russia's rocket capability is beyond that of the US.

[TheBadger]

^^ A bridge to far for me, efflux. But I certainly understand the doubt in world leadership. But I don't (just my self) need the conspiracy stuff. America is 16 trillion dollars in debt and has nothing to show for it.

!6 trillion$ should have cured cancer, landed on mars, sheltered every citizen and given them the best education money can buy. If we are going to spend that kind of money I mean.

But we have none of those things. We don't even have good roads.

Thats all the proof I need that the government has failed. That democracy has failed. But I don't worry about it anymore. There is nothing anyone can do about it. So just sit back and enjoy the horror movie.

The FX will be outstanding!

[AP]

http://youtu.be/g6FyilwyCzU

[efflux]

I'll check that video out.

I've added lots of comments about these particular issues on this forum. One major problem across the net, on TV etc is that there is lots of talk concerning certain parts of the problem. You have to see the overarching problem otherwise the talk gets nowhere. It is one of Oligarchical system versus the opposing system as more or less laid out in the US constitution. If you are in an Oligarchical system you have monetray policy designed to empoverish everyone with debt, including nation state governments. You have austery and wars. Eventually you get eugenics and mass genocide. The people are viewed as animals to be farmed and then slaughtered when they aren't producing what the Oligarchs want. Once you understand this principle you see why things work the way they do. Why our governments don't seem to be working for the good of the people. They aren't. They are working for Oligarchs whose only reason for existance is to preserve their own class as the ruling class by keeping everyone else down.