Why the Meltdown Should Have Surprised No One

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Tangled-Universe


Andrew March



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TheBadger

It has been eaten.

Andrew March

Incredible hostility towards a fictional character there Badger, do you often have trouble differentiating fiction from reality? :D

TheBadger

QuoteIncredible hostility towards a fictional character there Badger, do you often have trouble differentiating fiction from reality?

I dont understand your statement. There is nothing in my comment that suggests that I believed the character in your post to be real. But I doubt very much that we have the same perception of reality anyway.

For example, the character in the image you posted was the president of the united states in a hit TV show. It was mostly viewed by people of a certain political or philosophical persuasion that watched in order to have their own views of reality validated.
They needed their views validated from the programs fictions, in oder to feel better about, or reinforce their believes, that there ideas are right and good. They needed to do this in order to counter act the impact of the reality of the over whelming failure of their ideas in the "Real world".

Ultimately the show was canceled.

But, then again, you were calling for Jed Bartlet to be elected. I imagine that you were doing this in oder to dismiss the conversation that everyone else was having.
Insults in place of arguments is a strategy born out of the notion of a will to power, and post modern politics. The primary group in the US to employ this strategy is the progressive left, for whom the character Jed Bartlet was a kind of porn star.

But to answer your question, no. Not ever.

Are you always a dick?
It has been eaten.

Andrew March

No, never a Dick I find that particular name is reserved for people of a particular political persuasion and those who have no sense of humour and do not know thier place in the scheme of things. You know, the kind of people that think an Art forum is a sensible place for a political discussion and think that ranting about the worlds problems can be solved on an ART forum.

Regardless, get your facts straight, the show was not cancelled, it had run it's course in portraying Bartlet's term in office and oh by the way I have no political affiliations nor bias towards any american political party, why....I'm British!

Now, instead of calling me names why don't you run along, I'm sure you have a bund meeting to attend.

Tangled-Universe

Quote from: Andrew March on November 12, 2012, 11:42:05 AM
No, never a Dick I find that particular name is reserved for people of a particular political persuasion and those who have no sense of humour and do not know thier place in the scheme of things. You know, the kind of people that think an Art forum is a sensible place for a political discussion and think that ranting about the worlds problems can be solved on an ART forum.

Regardless, get your facts straight, the show was not cancelled, it had run it's course in portraying Bartlet's term in office and oh by the way I have no political affiliations nor bias towards any american political party, why....I'm British!

Now, instead of calling me names why don't you run along, I'm sure you have a bund meeting to attend.

Questioning whether an Art forum (or basically any other forum other than a political based one) is a sensible place for political discussion is not very relevant I think.
We gather here because we share the same interest, but the forum also allows for discussion other than our main shared interest.
This place is offered by the Open Discussion subsection of the forums and that's where we exactly are.
If you don't agree to that then simply avoid this part of the board or these kind of topics.

Of course we won't solve it, nor will people who discuss it on an appropriate board I think.
I think it doesn't hurt in the sense that how different opinions, visions and the ability to accept facts are, you can still learn a bit from it.
Despite I don't share the same ideas and thoughts

I think it's good to know other's opinions. No matter how different they are, but it doesn't need to be put here to the level of being straight obnoxious with fact-twists/denial and such.

TheBadger

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QuoteNo, never a Dick
90% of your own posts over the last few months would disagree with you.

Quote...I find that particular name is reserved for people...do not know thier place in the scheme of things...the kind of people that think an Art forum is a sensible place for a political discussion
Hilarious!
Yes, Andrew, please tell us our proper place. Decide for the rest of us where we can and cannot talk, and what we can and cannot talk about.

An art forum is not a "sensible" place to talk about politics? For the last 10,000 years art was focused on two things, politics and religion.
Its only recently that art became a form of personal self expression for ordinary people. If you knew anything about art you would know that.
"Art forums" are the most appropriate place to talk about politics.

QuoteRegardless, get your facts straight, the show was not cancelled

The show was cancelled due to a continual decrease in the ratings. If it was still popular at the end NBC would have brought in a new character to play a new president, or created a spin off series. According to NBC the network that made the show, the show was cancelled because it was no longer popular.
"The presidential drama, a onetime critical and audience darling that has seen a precipitous ratings drop, will close this spring with President Bartlet (Martin Sheen) leaving and a new president" (USA Today/AP/NBC)

Get my facts straight? Hilarious!

QuoteI have no political affiliations nor bias towards any american political party, why....I'm British!
I never talked about parties here. Or are you saying there is no progressive left in England? If you are, your blind.

QuoteNow, instead of calling me names why don't you run along, I'm sure you have a bund meeting to attend.
Thats funny too. You single me out by name with an insult and get offended when I respond. By the way, placing a smiley face next to your insult does not make you funny, it makes you a gimp.

These threads only get harsh when guys like you start with the personal attacks. The rest of us seem to get along just fine despite disagreeing passionately on just about everything.
The problem here is not this thread, the problem is you.
It has been eaten.

PabloMack

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When the government tries to help people buy houses when those people aren't financially responsibile, you know we are in for a crash. The government is essentially being used by lobbyists put there by construction companies who don't think they are selling enough houses so they want to make more money by building houses that aren't needed. These companies don't care that the buyers can't pay for them because the banks pay them up front and leave everyone who has money in those banks holding the bag. I'd like to ask everyone on this forum "How many of you have paid off your mortgage?"

masonspappy

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For the last 10,000 years art was focused on two things, politics and religion.

Ahem.... and sex.   ::)

efflux

Quote from: Andrew March on November 12, 2012, 11:42:05 AM
No, never a Dick I find that particular name is reserved for people of a particular political persuasion and those who have no sense of humour and do not know thier place in the scheme of things. You know, the kind of people that think an Art forum is a sensible place for a political discussion and think that ranting about the worlds problems can be solved on an ART forum.

Regardless, get your facts straight, the show was not cancelled, it had run it's course in portraying Bartlet's term in office and oh by the way I have no political affiliations nor bias towards any american political party, why....I'm British!

Now, instead of calling me names why don't you run along, I'm sure you have a bund meeting to attend.

I think it's more useful to have at least some dicsussion on these topics on a forum like this rather than going somewhere that only discusses this sort of thing. These things are discussed on all sorts of forums just like this. This way, ideas and info gets spread more effecyively rather than putting it where everyone already knows or where people spend all their time arguing about this stuff and often they have extremely inflexible opinions. I also think people who are into any form of creating art tend to think more carefully.