canyon

Started by kaedorg, August 15, 2013, 11:50:02 PM

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kaedorg

i have tried to work with your previous critics on shaders (thanks hannes) and on details (thanks badger)
wanted to follow the advices of ulco for a river but i still need to work on it, so it is a lake...

i used 2 xfrog conifers and 3 lamppost bushes

choronr

A nice start. I would like to see to POV shifted to the right showing more of the river. Then, consider lowering the river depth and adding a sandy shore line.

Dune

If you want a river, start with a soft simple shape (long, and about twice as wide as you want your river to be). Warp it (you can even use the fractal warper), play with the softness through a color adjust shader. Build the terrain outside using the same simple shape mask, but inverted, again using color adjust shaders to adjust sharpness of edges. Or use a larger simple shape for a river valley, warped the same way of course (copy warper, double line). That's the basis.

kaedorg

thanks for your comments Bob

I lowered the river depth and changed the POV. i lowered the bushes shader but keep unchanged the conifers.

thanks ulco for your help. I still need to work even with the basis but your help inspire me

David

choronr

A big improvement here ...good job.

Dune

Yes, but I think you need to half the trees in size, and use some more versions.

mhaze

This is coming along really well.

Mr_Lamppost

The second viewpoint is a big improvement. I agree with Dune that the trees are on the large side. They may not look so out of placer at a reduced scale but there are some trees suspended half way up the cliff on the right which don't quite fit.

P.S. I'm pleased to see that bush pack is still useful.
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Markal

The second render is much better. I think the tree size is O.K. the scale to me seems around 25 or 30 feet tall. I have a few Southern Pines (loblolly pines) in my yard that are around 70 feet tall and 3+ feet in diameter....so your trees seem small to me. Scale is often in the eye of the beholder...most old growth forests have very tall trees....50+ feet tall. I agree with more tree versions...maybe some small, some tall....Keep on man!

kaedorg

As Bob helped me for a big improvement

I used your comments for this third one.
I reduced the size of the trees by half. I add 3 other conifer species and i removed trees in the right mid-cliff.

@Mr_Lamppost : this is my first tg3 view with your bush pack. be sure, it is not the last one. thanks again  :)

David

TheBadger

#10
An excellent improvement from the first!
I like the water in the stone! Little details like that make huge impressions.

Scenes like this remind me of the Arizona high desert in some ways. I like the steepness of the strata near the water, but I would soften it a bit more higher up the cliffs in a few places. Also I would add a little more sand of powder quality in patches here and there. And the clouds could use a little more attention too.

Quite impressive over all now though.
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Mr_Lamppost

The added variation and reduced size has made a big difference to the trees, they look much more integrated into the landscape now.  Yes you do get big conifers but they need something to grow in and your landscape looks quite barren with little top soil; smaller stunted trees.  Landscape nailed.  :D   

I don't think your clouds are actually wrong but it might be worth experimenting.  I would try larger and softer but it's your image.
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DannyG

Digging v8, very nice
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