zBrush 3

Started by rcallicotte, June 27, 2007, 03:19:07 pm

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Will

they will with time but I think for now they are working mostly for the currently user base.
The world is round... so you have to use spherical projection.

efflux

June 27, 2007, 08:46:11 pm #16 Last Edit: June 27, 2007, 08:49:46 pm by efflux
Maybe the idea is that they attempt to get some people to buy the new version during the huge hype and all the amazing stuff coming out from beta testers. Maybe some people who might not buy it for various reasons if they tested it first. Otherwise a demo would be there to download. I can't see any other reason. It's some marketing ploy. It happens with lots of software. Then they push the demo out to rope more sales in. If the demo is actually the standard version with a 30 day demo time then that probably makes it easier to crack as well thus they lose initial purchases.

Moose

Quote from: Will on June 27, 2007, 05:51:56 pm
Quote from: Moose on June 27, 2007, 04:14:15 pm
I also see that a user is selling (legitimately) their copy of Z3 for a discounted price on ebay... assuming you're thinking of buying sometime soon - http://www.zbrushcentral.com/zbc/showthread.php?t=47851


Not sure if that will give you the free upgrade though.


On the ebay site it quotes from a letter with Pixologic which states that upgrade privileges are transferred to the new owner (but yeah, if I were interested I'd be checking this out first hand with Pixologic). :)


Quote from: calico on June 27, 2007, 06:24:28 pm
Wow.  Thank you all very much.  I'm much more interested in an application to model non-human objects, though zBrush is tugging at me.  Nevertheless, I think zBrush is more for creating creatures, human or otherwise.  If someone believes I'm wrong about that, let me know.  I'm looking at a few other programs, too - Modo, Hexagon 2.2 (I got it for free at DAZ), Mudbox, XSI...and anything that seems to fit in this crowd.   :P


It really depends on what you mean when you say you want to model "non-human objects". If you mean things like cars or skyscrapers etc. then ZBrush (though capable with a bit of effort) probably isn't you're best bet. But for things like walls and crumbling buildings, hero trees, landscape features etc. something like ZBrush could prove really useful (or even preferable).

There was an article on the old (and now dead) Pixologic site about some work Luma Pictures did for Underworld using Z2 for the environments -
http://209.132.96.165/zbc/showthread.php?t=035323 - but as you can see only the movie d/l link still works... the actual article dead-links. Google cache has it though - http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:EDCkDSQ4yRAJ:www.pixologic.com/zbrush/community/interviews/luma-pictures/interview.php+"luma+pictures"+pixologic+environment&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=uk&client=firefox-a - and here are the relevant pics for the lazy :P
http://download.pixologic.com/large-images/luma-pictures/large-16.jpg
http://download.pixologic.com/large-images/luma-pictures/large-04.jpg

Ultimately, like everyone here says, you'll no doubt benefit from having a trad modeller in your toolset to augment things - couldn't you make use of Hexagon here (or don't you get on with it?), I heard it had some nice poly tools(?).

:)

rcallicotte

June 28, 2007, 10:17:12 am #18 Last Edit: June 28, 2007, 10:44:52 am by calico
efflux, Will, and JohnnyBoy - all of these suggestions and counsel is leading me to believe that zBrush is too advanced for me right now.  And, the following pics are clearly showing me the Modo advantage - http://forums.luxology.com/discussion/forum.aspx?id=24

Moose - That was very helpful.  Not only do I better understand zBrush, I can see that I have a lot to learn before trying this program.  I can see it would be useful for me someday.  Hex2 seems pretty good and I have yet to play with it some more.  At least I own it.
So this is Disney World.  Can we live here?

JohnnyBoy

Calico, one more thing, to get the most out of zbrush you should have a pen-tablet like a Wacom, I don't think zbrush is useable without one. Maybe you already have a tablet, but it's one more expense to consider.

rcallicotte

After seeing someone do a demo in zBrush (I couldn't find a demo I could try), I've concluded that zBrush is too advanced at this stage to spend time learning it.  I've also concluded that learning so many different packages can be horrible.  Perhaps some professional training in a couple of packages is what I need.
So this is Disney World.  Can we live here?

Will

The world is round... so you have to use spherical projection.

rcallicotte

So this is Disney World.  Can we live here?

Will

They have good tutorials for sale from industry professionals. I've been satisfied with the one that I own. Just a recommendation.
The world is round... so you have to use spherical projection.

rcallicotte

cool.  Thanks.  I'm checking into it right now.

Quote from: Will on June 29, 2007, 09:06:10 am
They have good tutorials for sale from industry professionals. I've been satisfied with the one that I own. Just a recommendation.
So this is Disney World.  Can we live here?