NZ orbital WIP (& hi res tiles)

Started by bigben, October 16, 2007, 04:31:54 PM

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RArcher

I'm sure you've thought of this, but, for your bare rock mask that you are having trouble with, have you tried processing the landsat images in a 4/3/2 band image instead of the usual 3/2/1 band natural colour image?  The 4/3/2 should give you bright red for the vegetation and hopefully white/gray for the rock. 

efflux

That's spectacularly large scale in feel. Maybe some more variation in the water regions and cloud issues have been mentioned but other than that, great progress. Awesome work.

bigben

Quote from: zionner on October 18, 2007, 11:16:13 AM
Wow!

Nice Man! I love All these!

Can I ask...did you use a DEM for this?

If you did..What one? cause i've been wanting to do some NZ work myself.
Its all DEM data.... 4000x4000km of it! The terrain is only SRTM3 so it needs a lot of "help" for up close work.

Quote from: RArcher on October 18, 2007, 11:29:45 AM
I'm sure you've thought of this, but, for your bare rock mask that you are having trouble with, have you tried processing the landsat images in a 4/3/2 band image instead of the usual 3/2/1 band natural colour image?  The 4/3/2 should give you bright red for the vegetation and hopefully white/gray for the rock. 


No I hadn't  ;) Looking at the image I think there would still be some problems, but it would certainly be a lot easier, especially if placed below the grass layers (where it should be anyway).  Do you have a source URL? I found a site before but didn't bookmark it.  The main problem with rock occurs when you start getting closer. It's the first mask to become obvious due to the lack of resolution and it's difficult to add terrain-related variations because it can occur over a wide range of terrain features.

RArcher

My source for raw Landsat stuff is here:

http://glcfapp.umiacs.umd.edu:8080/esdi/index.jsp

You can search by a variety of different options, and everything comes in raw grayscale tiff format so you can combine whichever bands of data you want to get a variety of different remote sensing information.  Here are the steps I use for processing the bands into a 15m resolution Panchromatic False Colour image:

For a natural colour image:

1. Open Bands 1, 2 and 3 in photoshop
2. Adjust the levels of each image – move the left slider to the lowest visible black point, move the right slider to the highest visible white
3. Under Channels choose – merge channels, choose RGB.
4. For Red use Band 3, for Green use Band 2, for Blue use Band 1 - when done this is your 30m sample, for 15m keep going down the list
5. Once it is combined, change colour to LAB
6. Double the image size
7. Under channels choose – split channels
8. Close the Brightness channel, leave channel A and channel B open
9. Open Band 8, adjust levels as before
10. Under channels choose – Merge channels, choose LAB
11. Use Band 8 for Lightness, Channel A for A, Channel B for B
12. Adjust colours, contrast, levels, sharpness etc.
13. Save and recalibrate if desired

For other varieties, just change the band sequence to highlight different features.

Here are a few varieties, but there are many more:

http://www.archer-designs.com/satellite-data/satellite-image-gallery.php

You can also put the landsat bands together in Global Mapper, but it is pretty difficult to get good results.

Here is the 15m tile I converted while writing these out to make sure I got the steps right (It is around 170mb so it may take awhile to download, but I think it is far better than the google earth landsat images)

http://www.archer-designs.com/temp/p044r02520010914z11.rar

Full resolution crop:



Once you have everything converted to a contrasting colour palette, you should be able to do a colour selection or replace colour step to change the rocks to whichever colour you want.



bigben

That was the site I was thinking of... and thanks for the tips.

dhavalmistry

hey RArcher....is that satellite imagery???....incredible detail....
"His blood-terragen level is 99.99%...he is definitely drunk on Terragen!"

zionner

Wow!

That is incredibly High Res, Nice Find!

BigBen...Could I chance it and ask you where you got that DEM? lol

I have used smaller DEMs before..but nothing like that.

RArcher

Dhavalmistry:  Yes, that is just standard landsat 7 imagery.  The only difference between that image and google earth, is that I processed it by hand which tends to retain better detail.  Using the link at the top of the post, you can download raw images for anywhere in the world and then just follow the steps to get a similar result.

bigben

Quote from: zionner on October 21, 2007, 04:14:17 PM
Wow!

That is incredibly High Res, Nice Find!

BigBen...Could I chance it and ask you where you got that DEM? lol

I have used smaller DEMs before..but nothing like that.

DEMs are SRTM3: http://srtm.csi.cgiar.org/
It took a while but I finally have the full set.

Landsat references: https://zulu.ssc.nasa.gov/mrsid/
plodding through them....

Bathymetry data: http://topex.ucsd.edu/WWW_html/srtm30_plus.html

From these I created 6 TER files to cover NZ plus a couple of smaller ones to include the larger offshore island... The bathymetry is a highly adjusted TIFF file derived from the bathymetry data (covers 4,000x4,000km). I could have included it in the TERs but it was simpler to fale the transparency and have a flat terrain for the ocean surface.

I may recreate the TERs as there is one large one on the south island that is limiting the size of a single render to 1500x1500.

jo

Hi Ben,

This is excellent stuff. I live roughly under the red arrow :-) ( can't see the arrow today, it's too cloudy ).

Regards,

Jo


Seth

Quote from: jo on October 23, 2007, 09:56:23 PM
Hi Ben,

This is excellent stuff. I live roughly under the red arrow :-) ( can't see the arrow today, it's too cloudy ).

Regards,

Jo



damn ! lucky you are for sure ^^


bigben

Quote from: jo on October 23, 2007, 09:56:23 PM
Hi Ben,

This is excellent stuff. I live roughly under the red arrow :-) ( can't see the arrow today, it's too cloudy ).

Regards,

Jo


Hi Jo

I might fly past in the animation (since I have some cool subsurface detail along the cost) but I'll be "landing" near the lakes at the bottom of the image. More clouds are on their way...

dhavalmistry

Quote from: jo on October 23, 2007, 09:56:23 PM
Hi Ben,

This is excellent stuff. I live roughly under the red arrow :-) ( can't see the arrow today, it's too cloudy ).

Regards,

Jo

It must be beautiful down there....
"His blood-terragen level is 99.99%...he is definitely drunk on Terragen!"