Terragen 4 Benchmark released!

Started by Oshyan, April 21, 2019, 06:50:32 PM

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 edited it, it should be 18. This is why we have people supply the model # (and hopefully correctly). :D

- Oshyan


It's only 30 seconds faster than the threadripper.
My work machine is silly fast. It's also set up as a multiple GPU Octane box.
Early on last summer, Terragen would intermittently crash the hell out of it.  I had to send 16K enviro sphere renders out to Pixel Plow to get them done...if the threadrippers were busy. They never crashed. Since 4.3 that hasn't occurred.

We have a threadripper here with Terragen on it as well, I should do the test there too.

Oshyan

Yes, the more the merrier! Also note that 4.4 will be faster than 4.3 due to some more optimization of render times.

- Oshyan

archonforest

The Threadripper 2990 WX did the test in: 05:13.
The Threadripper 1950X did it in: 06:34sec.

But the price of the 2990WX is about 2x compare to the 1950X. Why would anyone pay double to save about 50seconds?  :o
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gao_jian11

This is not what I want, but the result is very helpless. 2990 seems to have a memory delay problem?

jaf

Quote from: archonforest on April 25, 2019, 05:31:35 AM
The Threadripper 2990 WX did the test in: 05:13.
The Threadripper 1950X did it in: 06:34sec.

But the price of the 2990WX is about 2x compare to the 1950X. Why would anyone pay double to save about 50seconds?  :o

But on a longer render, say 2 hours, it would save around 15 minutes.  Then think of a long animation.....
(04Dec20) Ryzen 1800x, 970 EVO 1TB M.2 SSD, Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR4 3200 Mem,  EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 Graphics 457.51 (04Dec20), Win 10 Pro x64, Terragen Pro 4.5.43 Frontier, BenchMark 0:10:02

archonforest

Quote from: jaf on April 25, 2019, 10:48:54 AM
Quote from: archonforest on April 25, 2019, 05:31:35 AM
The Threadripper 2990 WX did the test in: 05:13.
The Threadripper 1950X did it in: 06:34sec.

But the price of the 2990WX is about 2x compare to the 1950X. Why would anyone pay double to save about 50seconds?  :o

But on a longer render, say 2 hours, it would save around 15 minutes.  Then think of a long animation.....

Yeah, true. Guess when you are making your living out of it then you count every minutes...
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Amiga 1200 8Mb ram, 8Gb ssd

Oshyan

There are a couple of things to keep in mind about the 2990WX result vs. 1950x. First, 4.4 is going to be faster than 4.3 and the only 2990WX result we have so far is from 4.3. A 4.4 result from the same CPU would probably be 45 seconds faster, which doesn't sound like much, but is ultimately a good deal faster percentage-wise. Second, there are some scheduler and potential memory bandwidth/routing issues with the 2990WX, yes, but as far as I understand much of this is down to problems in how Windows handles thread management for Threadripper CPUs. It's something that can and should be improved over time. And if you happen to be able to render on Linux, those problems seem to mostly disappear (better thread management).

All that being said, of course a past generation CPU will be much cheaper, and unless the newer CPU really doubles performance (unlikely to happen in a single generation), then the *value* is usually with the past generation. This has been true of Intel for a long time, even more so in fact. I bought my dual Xeon workstation (currently #7 result on the list) on eBay for about $1800, and it nearly equaled some brand new Xeon workstations of the time for less than half the price. Since Intel was making only marginal improvements year to year with performance prior to AMD's Zen chips coming out (Ryzen and Threadripper), you had this glut of older but still close-to-current performance level hardware that was selling at much lower used prices. It made for a very interesting used market. :D

- Oshyan

cyphyr

#22
Added my results, I had hoped to rate better but I guess my rigs are getting a little dated.

i7-5930K @3.5Ghz 32gb DDR4 13m44s
i7-980 @ 3.89Ghx (OC) 16gb DDR3 18m10s
i7-8750H @ 2.2Ghz - 3.89Ghz 16Gb DDR4 16m02s

I'm a little suprised that the most recent chip, the i7-8750H, is not faster.  It would also appear that the core speed is bottlenecked in some way by the slower ram in the i7-890.

Interesting also that this new benchmark is not scaling the same as the old benchmark.
The new scene renders 2.22 times slower on the i7-5930K and 2.87 times slower on the i7-980.
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ajcgi

As I've acquired a new PC made of the guts of an old one off Gumtree, I figured I'd bench this baby. Slightly faster than Cyphyr's slowest :), but then I'm focussing on deepening my GPU-rendering knowledge with this machine. Anyhow!

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Oshyan

Thanks for the result Alex. All good fodder for the comparison. :)

- Oshyan